Bad week for India

[darthsidious]

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Wow you really are grasping at straws now. So a no-name Indian propaganda site has more credibility than the US Dept of State? :roll:

So basically you latch on to one point, state it, plug your ears with your fingers and go nah-nah-nah-nah-nah?

Sorry to interrupt, but why a thread hijack? India does have it's own issues, there is no denying that, including kashmir and the north east. There almost certainly have been human rights violations, and india still has a long way to go to get rid of those. Yet, you miss one very crucial point. In the near 60 years since independence, India has remained democratic straight through, without a military coup, or even coming close to state where it looked like the govt would be overthrown by seperatist movements. That's more than can be said of most newly independent nations. India has a responsible civilan govt, and a consistent, no first use nuclear policy. Therefore I don't see the objection in supplying fuel for nuclear reactors; it's not like the US is teaching india how to build nuclear weapons

PS: for purposes of full disclousure, and if anyone cares, I'm of indian descent

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: darthsidious

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Wow you really are grasping at straws now. So a no-name Indian propaganda site has more credibility than the US Dept of State? :roll:

So basically you latch on to one point, state it, plug your ears with your fingers and go nah-nah-nah-nah-nah?

Sorry to interrupt, but why a thread hijack? India does have it's own issues, there is no denying that, including kashmir and the north east. There almost certainly have been human rights violations, and india still has a long way to go to get rid of those. Yet, you miss one very crucial point. In the near 60 years since independence, India has remained democratic straight through, without a military coup, or even coming close to state where it looked like the govt would be overthrown by seperatist movements. That's more than can be said of most newly independent nations. India has a responsible civilan govt, and a consistent, no first use nuclear policy. Therefore I don't see the objection in supplying fuel for nuclear reactors; it's not like the US is teaching india how to build nuclear weapons

PS: for purposes of full disclousure, and if anyone cares, I'm of indian descent

I agree with you, I was just pointing out the obvious to some that believe India is without faults. It has a long list of humans rights violations that will hopefully be resolved one day and the only way to do so is if there is media exposure of these incidents.

 

[athithi]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: darthsidious

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Wow you really are grasping at straws now. So a no-name Indian propaganda site has more credibility than the US Dept of State? :roll:

So basically you latch on to one point, state it, plug your ears with your fingers and go nah-nah-nah-nah-nah?

Sorry to interrupt, but why a thread hijack? India does have it's own issues, there is no denying that, including kashmir and the north east. There almost certainly have been human rights violations, and india still has a long way to go to get rid of those. Yet, you miss one very crucial point. In the near 60 years since independence, India has remained democratic straight through, without a military coup, or even coming close to state where it looked like the govt would be overthrown by seperatist movements. That's more than can be said of most newly independent nations. India has a responsible civilan govt, and a consistent, no first use nuclear policy. Therefore I don't see the objection in supplying fuel for nuclear reactors; it's not like the US is teaching india how to build nuclear weapons

PS: for purposes of full disclousure, and if anyone cares, I'm of indian descent

I agree with you, I was just pointing out the obvious to some that believe India is without faults. It has a long list of humans rights violations that will hopefully be resolved one day and the only way to do so is if there is media exposure of these incidents.

No, you created opponents in your own mind. Nobody claimed that India is without faults but your post implied that India is ONLY of faults by stating just one side. I was merely posting the other side in addition to what you had posted to provide a balanced picture. You presumed that I was refuting what you had posted and that my points were aimed to replace what you had posted as some singular truth. As for media exposure, the Hindu pandits that have become refugees in their own country are the ones who are in desperate need of media exposure, not just the Muslim population which chased them out of Kashmir in the first place.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: darthsidious

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Wow you really are grasping at straws now. So a no-name Indian propaganda site has more credibility than the US Dept of State? :roll:

So basically you latch on to one point, state it, plug your ears with your fingers and go nah-nah-nah-nah-nah?

Sorry to interrupt, but why a thread hijack? India does have it's own issues, there is no denying that, including kashmir and the north east. There almost certainly have been human rights violations, and india still has a long way to go to get rid of those. Yet, you miss one very crucial point. In the near 60 years since independence, India has remained democratic straight through, without a military coup, or even coming close to state where it looked like the govt would be overthrown by seperatist movements. That's more than can be said of most newly independent nations. India has a responsible civilan govt, and a consistent, no first use nuclear policy. Therefore I don't see the objection in supplying fuel for nuclear reactors; it's not like the US is teaching india how to build nuclear weapons

PS: for purposes of full disclousure, and if anyone cares, I'm of indian descent

I agree with you, I was just pointing out the obvious to some that believe India is without faults. It has a long list of humans rights violations that will hopefully be resolved one day and the only way to do so is if there is media exposure of these incidents.

No, you created opponents in your own mind. Nobody claimed that India is without faults but your post implied that India is ONLY of faults by stating just one side. I was merely posting the other side in addition to what you had posted to provide a balanced picture. You presumed that I was refuting what you had posted and that my points were aimed to replace what you had posted as some singular truth. As for media exposure, the Hindu pandits that have become refugees in their own country are the ones who are in desperate need of media exposure, not just the Muslim population which chased them out of Kashmir in the first place.

All you did was ignore the issue I brought up and link to a hindu propaganda site, not exactly compelling evidence or even relevant to what I was discussing.

 

[athithi]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: darthsidious

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Wow you really are grasping at straws now. So a no-name Indian propaganda site has more credibility than the US Dept of State? :roll:

So basically you latch on to one point, state it, plug your ears with your fingers and go nah-nah-nah-nah-nah?

Sorry to interrupt, but why a thread hijack? India does have it's own issues, there is no denying that, including kashmir and the north east. There almost certainly have been human rights violations, and india still has a long way to go to get rid of those. Yet, you miss one very crucial point. In the near 60 years since independence, India has remained democratic straight through, without a military coup, or even coming close to state where it looked like the govt would be overthrown by seperatist movements. That's more than can be said of most newly independent nations. India has a responsible civilan govt, and a consistent, no first use nuclear policy. Therefore I don't see the objection in supplying fuel for nuclear reactors; it's not like the US is teaching india how to build nuclear weapons

PS: for purposes of full disclousure, and if anyone cares, I'm of indian descent

I agree with you, I was just pointing out the obvious to some that believe India is without faults. It has a long list of humans rights violations that will hopefully be resolved one day and the only way to do so is if there is media exposure of these incidents.

No, you created opponents in your own mind. Nobody claimed that India is without faults but your post implied that India is ONLY of faults by stating just one side. I was merely posting the other side in addition to what you had posted to provide a balanced picture. You presumed that I was refuting what you had posted and that my points were aimed to replace what you had posted as some singular truth. As for media exposure, the Hindu pandits that have become refugees in their own country are the ones who are in desperate need of media exposure, not just the Muslim population which chased them out of Kashmir in the first place.

All you did was ignore the issue I brought up and link to a hindu propaganda site, not exactly compelling evidence or even relevant to what I was discussing.

Your dismissal of the Hindu pandit issue as propaganda shows that you have no genuine interest in a truthful and balanced perspective of the situation. As long as you continue to harp just one side of the issue you will see people harping on just the other side of the issue. What compelling evidence do you need? The slums in which these Hindu pandits live in now, displaced from their homes in the Kashmir valley? Go to Delhi and see them for yourself. The hundreds or thousands of Kashmiri Hindus that have been rounded up in the night and slaughtered by Muslim militants? Check the census figures for Hindu population in Kashmir before and after the separatist movement.

You will believe everything that the US State Dept. reports and will deem non-existent everything that the US State Dept has not reported? You better get started on searching for the WMDs then.