Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed after being hit by a cargo boat.

[Muse]

Huh? Shouldn't take more than a week to clear waterway. New bridge is a different ballgame.

It's been one really looong week.

 

[sdifox]

It's been one really looong week.

LoL

 

[hal2kilo]

As a person who grew up in Arlington, VA, it's weird that the only Key bridge I was aware of was the one going from Rosslyn to Foggie Bottom in DC. Never knew there was a Key bridge in Baltimore because we always used the tunnel.
Edit: the last bridge on the Potomac into DC is not far below the falls. It's Chain bridge. Key and Chain.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Domino theory:

Baltimore bridge collapse has dockworkers in fear for their future​

ABC|15 hours ago
The Port of Baltimore's shutdown has dealt a devastating blow to the economy, causing a staggering 8,000 jobs to be lost.

 

[feralkid]

As a person who grew up in Arlington, VA, it's weird that the only Key bridge I was aware of was the one going from Rosslyn to Foggie Bottom in DC. Never knew there was a Key bridge in Baltimore because we always used the tunnel.
Edit: the last bridge on the Potomac into DC is not far below the falls. It's Chain bridge. Key and Chain.

Are there locks to get around the falls?

 

[iRONic]

Domino theory:

Baltimore bridge collapse has dockworkers in fear for their future​

ABC|15 hours ago
The Port of Baltimore's shutdown has dealt a devastating blow to the economy, causing a staggering 8,000 jobs to be lost.

I would think their union would be stepping up to help them. I believe there was a piece in some media about congress supplying part of their appropriations for the dockworkers.

 

[Meghan54]

Are there locks to get around the falls?

C&O canal and locks?

 

[iRONic]

I may have mis-named them. Is ‘Longshoreman’ the correct term for those guys that unload the container ships?

When these type of unforeseen catastrophic events happen it really amplifies the effect the supply chain has on our economy and society.

 

[hal2kilo]

Are there locks to get around the falls?

Well, actually the C and O canal runs parallel to the Potomac, and yes there are locks there. I got my 20 mile hike in for my hiking merit badge on that stretch of the canal.

 

[Zorba]

I may have mis-named them. Is ‘Longshoreman’ the correct term for those guys that unload the container ships?

When these type of unforeseen catastrophic events happen it really amplifies the effect the supply chain has on our economy and society.

Yes, they are Longshoremen.

 

[sdifox]

MV Dali owner declares general average. Meaning the cost of the salvage will be spread to the customers as well. Let the lawsuits begin.

Dali vessel owner declares general average

Grace Ocean the Singapore-based owners of the Maersk chartered Dali, which ran into Baltimore’s Francis Key Bridge killing six workers and demolishing the crossing, declared general average on Saturday.

www.seatrade-maritime.com

 

[feralkid]

MV Dali owner declares general average. Meaning the cost of the salvage will be spread to the customers as well. Let the lawsuits begin.

Dali vessel owner declares general average

Grace Ocean the Singapore-based owners of the Maersk chartered Dali, which ran into Baltimore’s Francis Key Bridge killing six workers and demolishing the crossing, declared general average on Saturday.

www.seatrade-maritime.com

So...Weasels wrecked our bridge. It begins.

 

[Zorba]

So...Weasels wrecked our bridge. It begins.

I think this is fairly typical for a major salvage.

 

[FirNaTine]

I would think their union would be stepping up to help them. I believe there was a piece in some media about congress supplying part of their appropriations for the dockworkers.

Their union, ILA, is offering a supplemental benefit on top of state unemployment. But, it is still well below their normal pay. I don't know the exact amount though.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Well, there's this:

Body of 6th construction worker killed in Key Bridge collapse recovered​

ABC|1 hour ago
The body of the sixth victim killed in the Baltimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse has been recovered, authorities said Tuesday.


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[sdifox]

Looks like they are going to use explosives to free the ship

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/key-bridge-wreckage-freed-explosives-crew-shelter-in-place/60719318

 

[skyking]

the video explains it well. It will slice it up so it frees the ship as best as possible, and nobody needs to be in harm's way making those final cuts that release energy.

 

[iRONic]

Regardless of the human fuck ups and natures horrific weather effects on man and and our landscape it never ceases to amaze me the way that engineers can figure out ways to fix the shit!

 

[Pohemi]

I'm impressed that even with how focused the precision directional charges are, that they don't consider the Dali's crew to be in any danger from it. It isn't the detonation that I would be concerned about but the movement of the truss as it splits. They obviously know wth they're doing though.

 

[pcgeek11]

Shaped charges are remarkable. It is amazing how you can attach a shaped charge to a three inch piece of steel with a single piece of scotch tape and set it off. It will cut through the steel and not dislodge the charge housing from the plate.

 

[trenchfoot]

Shaped charges are remarkable. It is amazing how you can attach a shaped charge to a three inch piece of steel with a single piece of scotch tape and set it off. It will cut through the steel and not dislodge the charge housing from the plate.

Back in the day we used 55 gal. drums that were modified as shaped charges for cratering jobs, especially as access denial on roads, runways and small bridges. We had to be a 1/4 mile away from the blast to stay clear of pressure wave and debris. Was one hell of a firecracker. Static electricity was a real concern when setting up the charges.

 

[eelw]

I'm impressed that even with how focused the precision directional charges are, that they don't consider the Dali's crew to be in any danger from it. It isn't the detonation that I would be concerned about but the movement of the truss as it splits. They obviously know wth they're doing though.

Wait, they’ve remained on board this entire time

 

[brycejones]

Wait, they’ve remained on board this entire time

Yes, ship still has to be kept running.

 

[pcgeek11]

Back in the day we used 55 gal. drums that were modified as shaped charges for cratering jobs, especially as access denial on roads, runways and small bridges. We had to be a 1/4 mile away from the blast to stay clear of pressure wave and debris. Was one hell of a firecracker. Static electricity was a real concern when setting up the charges.

I've only been associated with the smaller charges used as demolition triggers for larger devices such as missile rocket motors and entry access cutting etc...

 

[skyking]

Depending on what you want to break, they can be incredibly violent and energetic.
"We had to be a 1/4 mile away from the blast to stay clear of pressure wave and debris."
We probably should have been a 1/4 mile away when they touched off a charge set on a boulder that had a missed charge while building Cowlitz Falls Dam.

I was working swings. Day shift drilled all day and they blasted at shift change, generating about 3000 CY of rock that we moved out of the cut.
One day that had a big solid nugget that was out of the pattern, and rather than build a trail to get a drill to it, Kray Kray Coogan cooked up a shaped charge idea. Oh yeah. He was nuts.
We were above the cut in our yard where those young trees are on the right. CRACK!
Here comes this line drive head sized rock, traveling in a very flat arc. It bounced off the 3' diameter fender log <Bonk, splinters flying> and back down to the cut. Had it cleared the log it would have one-hopped through anything up there, conexs, equipment, us humans.