Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed after being hit by a cargo boat.

[zinfamous]

He's making it easy for them...

Biden pledges federal dollars for 'entire cost' to rebuild collapsed Baltimore bridge - Maryland Matters

President calls on Congress to authorize full federal funding for bridge reconstruction — a politically cumbersome process.

www.marylandmatters.org

I disagree with Biden on this. Federal matching money, sure, but the ENTIRE cost? No fckn way. Make Maryland foot at least 1/2 of the cost of rebuilding the bridge.

Why Maryland? Why not the company responsible for the ship?

 

[zinfamous]

The state itself should have a stake in it, absolutely.

If it's for the public, then they should apply to the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Public Assistance Program. 75% reimbursement for qualified replacements, which I think is fair. Idk maybe bridges would get a better deal due to their importance to general commerce and transportation. It's not a park after all.

I think Biden is trying to do right by the auto industry, which just took a big hit with this port closing.

This is a major transport route all along the east coast. This is going to fuck of everything for months, for everyone. This is absolutely federal territory.

Still, I say strangle that shipping company for most of it.

 

[sdifox]

This is a major transport route all along the east coast. This is going to fuck of everything for months, for everyone. This is absolutely federal territory.

Still, I say strangle that shipping company for most of it.

Synergy Marine revenue was 78M last year...

 

[Fenixgoon]

Synergy Marine revenue was 78M last year...

One can hope they had a large insurance policy.

 

[sdifox]

One can hope they had a large insurance policy.

Nine year old ship, I am sure the insurance company will find a way to void the policy, like neglected maintenance.

Even if it pays out, I doubt its third party liability covers a bridge.

Welp maybe I am wrong on the coverage.

Major (re)insurers and P&I club on hook for Baltimore bridge disaster

Collapse expected to drive "one of the largest claims" ever for marine market

www.insurancebusinessmag.com

 

[zinfamous]

Synergy Marine revenue was 78M last year...

well, I edited my comment from saying take them for everything they have...but I guess that is back on the table.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

It was under contract with Maersk, who has a wee bit more money.

 

[sdifox]

But how soon can they get to work? Investigations? Moving the bridge's battering ram without sinking it and dumping thousands of containers?

It doesn't look like the ship took much damage. I mean we haven't heard it sinking. I imagine the Bulbous bow took most of the damage.

 

[Brovane]

Good Updated video from "What is going on with shipping"

MV Dali and Port of Baltimore Update - March 27, 2024

 

[uallas5]

Good article in WSJ about the road crew that perished. One was a father of six. Call me jaded but the fact that they were all immigrants from Mexico and Central America will mean that we won't be seeing the normal outpouring of support from certain quarters that is usually garnered with tragedies such as this.

Free article link:

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/baltimore-bridge-deadly-shift-f3a89f27?st=r19q3y9y4a0y9ld&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

[skyking]

You're jaded, and thanks for the article.

 

[HomerJS]

Why Maryland? Why not the company responsible for the ship?

MD originally built it and the pillars should have been reinforced. We should treat this like a previous bridge collapse. MD pays 10%, Feds 90% and then go after the shipping company/owners for the money later.

We need to get that new bridge up ASAP.

 

[HomerJS]

Good article in WSJ about the road crew that perished. One was a father of six. Call me jaded but the fact that they were all immigrants from Mexico and Central America will mean that we won't be seeing the normal outpouring of support from certain quarters that is usually garnered with tragedies such as this.

Free article link:

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/baltimore-bridge-deadly-shift-f3a89f27?st=r19q3y9y4a0y9ld&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

My next prediction...

Since the crew were immigrants Fox and Republicans will downplay the disaster. Because of that Republicans will hold up funding for the bridge rebuild.

Just have to ask yourself what would shitty human beings do? They've already blamed black people and immigrants for the initial disaster. Biden also was blamed for his Infrastructure Bill.

 

[brycejones]

My next prediction...

Since the crew were immigrants Fox and Republicans will downplay the disaster. Because of that Republicans will hold up funding for the bridge rebuild.

Just have to ask yourself what would shitty human beings do? They've already blamed black people and immigrants for the initial disaster. Biden also was blamed for his Infrastructure Bill.

I just despise the need the GOP feels to politicize EVERY fucking thing that happens.

 

[Muse]

Nine year old ship, I am sure the insurance company will find a way to void the policy, like neglected maintenance.

Even if it pays out, I doubt its third party liability covers a bridge.

Welp maybe I am wrong on the coverage.

Major (re)insurers and P&I club on hook for Baltimore bridge disaster

Collapse expected to drive "one of the largest claims" ever for marine market

www.insurancebusinessmag.com

“Huge insurance implications”​

The collapse will have a severe impact on the port of Baltimore, through which more than a million shipping containers pass every year. The port is closed to all maritime traffic until further notice, local officials have said.
The cost of rebuilding the bridge has been estimated at more than $600 million, according to a Sky News report.
Richard Meade, editor of Lloyd’s List, told Sky News that the accident and its aftermath will have “huge insurance implications” as shipping companies and maritime authorities scramble to divert trade to other ports.
“There are going to be implications in terms of what the eastern seaboard of the US now does to rearrange its logistics in order to account for this, because this is not going to be resolved in a quick manner.”
Rebuilding the bridge will cost at least 10 times its original price tag of $60 million – largely because it will need to be rebuilt quickly, according to David MacKenzie, chair of engineering and architecture consultancy COWIfonden.
“It’s got to be built quickly because you’ve heard of the pressure on the commuter traffic,” he told Sky News. “So that means it’s going to be a lot more expensive and the process of procurement is going to have to be short-cut hugely.”

 

[K1052]

I'm not sure that it will actually cost more than the normal process, potentially less. If they are in a hurry stuff like NEPA can be waived and there is not likely to be a lot of political haggling over the design that increases cost.

 

[sdifox]

They can just build the same bridge, but add protections to it.

 

[Muse]

They can just build the same brudge, but add protections to it.

They could require tugboat escorts in bridge approach.

 

[K1052]

They'll probably replace it with a cable stayed design.

 

[soulcougher73]

We should just cut to the chase and admit that it was caused by transgender Ukrainian antifa librarians that only had their jobs because of DEI that got in through the open border and got all hopped up on mifepristone.

I mean, who else would it be?

 

[brycejones]

I mean, who else would it be?

It was Hilary Clinton!

 

[pcgeek11]

I thought harbor masters steer ships until they get to open water?

The harbor pilot don't actually steer they take command of the ship during the transit to and from the harbor. Not much they can do if they lose power and steering. I don't understand why they didn't drop anchor or shift to manual steering. It may have been too close to make a difference, but that is standard procedure.

 

[Pohemi]

Looks like they did try dropping at least one of the anchors, but no idea what happened to the mechanical backup controls.

 

[Indus]

Looks like they did try dropping at least one of the anchors, but no idea what happened to the mechanical backup controls.

I wonder if they anchor caused the ship to steer right and hit the bridge.. was looking like it was going pretty straight.

 

[sdifox]

Yeah if they dropped both anchors and one didn't catch then the other would change the ship's course and hit the support. Oops.