a rather large woman, the 3 were probably eating enough for 6, so the tip should have been added.
I'm partially on your side in this argument. I think good service should always get a tip, but at the same time we can't lose sight of what a tip is. A server's need for tips to get their pay level to a livable level is not an automatic obligation for a patron to provide it. Inherent in the concept of a tip is the chance that some ass will leave you hanging every now and then. That sucks, but it's part of the job.
It's when people start thinking that their need = my obligation that I take exception. It simply isn't true. Servers just want to take the chance out of what is essentially a gamble on their part. They are gambling that customers will appreciate their service enough to compensate them appropriately, and by and large, customers do. Tipping is so prevalent and generous that restaurants are able to justify paying less than minimum wage. A good waiter can potentially make a great deal of money in a single day on tips alone, or they could have a bad day and make very little. That's not good enough for many waiters though. They want their "tips" to be guaranteed, rather than subject to the whims of the fickle populace.
Something about that doesn't sit right with me.
can someone show me the requirement to work a job that pays below minimum wage.
well in all fairness it's expected that for serving you they are getting X amount/percentage for doing so...just for the act of service. For food that's 15%. This means for most of the middle and lower class that the server brought them their food, got a set of refills along the way, and had their check to them within 15mins of them completing the meal. At this level it's best to ask your server for those refills and when your are ready for your check, expect to wait 5mins or so at times for them to come back.
Just because the server got a plate or two swapped at the table, or the food is slightly cold or over done, etc is not their fault...should still warrant the 15% tip. Food prep should be something one brings up to the management and it's customary to get comp'd a bit at the higher end of the lower eating places. At pure bargain bin restaurants you probably have over 25% of the patrons trying to get something for nothing.
can someone show me the requirement to work a job that pays below minimum wage.
huh? which job you looking for requirements on....
You know many professions have no guaranteed income, right?
Yes it is.
Dense much? No one is required to work any job. Slavery is against the law.
Who would you side with?
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/02/26/dnt.bad.tipper.banned.wxii
I can understand both sides, but anyone who eats out and doesn't tip well should be shot.
So what you are saying is that it is disadvantageous for the company to fire you because of a few program faults here and there, and that customers have no real recourse when that happens, and that this is somehow better than a system where the customer doesn't have to pay as much if the quality of service is not as high, and a company could still fire someone for repeated incompetence?
I don't understand how anyone could think the second scenario below is better. Perhaps because they don't like doing rudimentary multiplication?
Current System
good service = Customer spends price of meal + 18%
bad service = Customer spends price of meal + 0%
No-Tip System
good service = Customer spends price of meal + 18%
bad service = Customer spends price of meal + 18%
You Americans and your tipping.. This is way outta line, if a restaurant withheld service from anyone for not paying more than the cost of the food and drinks is, they'd be closed and no-one would think twice about it..
As a general rule I think America is superior in every way, with the exception of the tipping issue. In most of the rest of the world this is not even known, much less practiced.
We need to get over ourselves and our sense of entitlement. Its one of the many things holding us down.
These people are no different than any other people that serve you who don't get tipped (i.e. getting an oil change, car salesman, insurance company agent, etc...).
No way should tipping be mandatory. If it were, they should just jack up the initial price of the dish and call it good. Tipping is only optional (although I do tip at every sit down restaurant) and the amount is only based on the quality of service, nothing else. These people are no different than any other people that serve you who don't get tipped (i.e. getting an oil change, car salesman, insurance company agent, etc...).
No way should tipping be mandatory. If it were, they should just jack up the initial price of the dish and call it good. Tipping is only optional (although I do tip at every sit down restaurant) and the amount is only based on the quality of service, nothing else. These people are no different than any other people that serve you who don't get tipped (i.e. getting an oil change, car salesman, insurance company agent, etc...).
Agree. Zerocool and many others need to get jobs and move out of their parents house. Or work at a restaurant. They'd realize that there's plenty of people hustling, providing great service to earn their tip. But for some reason, he and others think that minimum wage is a livable wage and that's all they deserve or it's very easy to find a better/higher paying job.
Crap, I've been in a diner where I've gotten great service and left a $5 tip for a $10 meal.
Thankfully, based on the poll in the article, only 1% of the population think like him.
Out of all the restaurants patrons and they recognize her, I can only assume she must have done something to make herself stand out.
Yes and if they do a good job I'd tip them. You're not getting the point I and others have said. Do and good job and you get a tip. Do a bad job and get no tip. I don't see how you're missing the point. Maybe you're the one that needs to get out and get some fresh air.