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Originally posted by: gOJDO
Phenom X4 vs Kentsfield, clock for clock:
GAMING -10%
GENERAL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE -5%
ENCODING/MEDIA -10%
ENCRYPTION +5%
RENDERING -5%
o rly?
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Phenom X4 vs Kentsfield, clock for clock:
GAMING -10%
GENERAL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE -5%
ENCODING/MEDIA -10%
ENCRYPTION +5%
RENDERING -5%
Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Phenom X4 vs Kentsfield, clock for clock:
GAMING -10%
GENERAL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE -5%
ENCODING/MEDIA -10%
ENCRYPTION +5%
RENDERING -5%
o rly?
Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
o k
I bet you 5 cool points
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Phenom X4 vs Kentsfield, clock for clock:
GAMING -10%
GENERAL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE -5%
ENCODING/MEDIA -10%
ENCRYPTION +5%
RENDERING -5%
o rly?
yeap. wanna bet?
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: UncivilizedAMD
Originally posted by: Amaroque
I remember gameing on a P200MMX @ 250, and a K6-2 350 @ 400. The PMMX whooped the K6's a$$.
The entire Pentium line at the time crushed any K5, K6, K6-2, K6-3, untill the Athlon came out.
AMD didn't die then, so I don't think they will now either. They may just become a "value" CPU maker, like in the old days. I don't wish to see this happen however. I remember paying $700 for a PII 350.
Remember, we probably wouldn't have Core2 if it weren't for AMD pushing Intel.
I highly doubt that the entire pentium line crushed any k5, k6, k6-2, k6-3. The amd k6 1, 2, 3 was competitive with Intel performance wise. There wasn't a big gap in performance as your post suggests. The AMD processors were priced way less too.
http://arstechnica.com/cpu/2q99/simd-shootout-8.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/19...4/06/intel/page10.html
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=262&p=1
You're undeniably right on the K6-2 and 3 being better than PMMX overall. There are a couple of things to consider though :
(1)- That overclocked PMMX he had was probably running on an 83mhz FSB instead of 66, with synchronous memory access (nice).
(2)- Most of the early 100FSB Super7 boards were TERRIBLE VIA/ALI chipset garbage. I had an Epox w/K6-3 450Mhz, and it indeed couldn't outpace my P2-233MMX @ 297Mhz (Abit !) at anything other than Quake2 w/3dnow patch.
So .. it's possible that he had a crappy system, but not the K6's fault, more of the awful mobos that were out at the time. Of course, I went to a Celeron Mendocino 300a, and it crushed the K6-450 like it was a 286.
ah, the memories
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
Originally posted by: gOJDO
Phenom X4 vs Kentsfield, clock for clock:
GAMING -10%
GENERAL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE -5%
ENCODING/MEDIA -10%
ENCRYPTION +5%
RENDERING -5%
o rly?
yeap. wanna bet?
Actually, I already have...I've got about a $.5 Million bet that you're wrong.
Originally posted by: Jeff007245
As far as Barcelona is concerned, it most likely won't be the processor for more of these estimates. We'll have to wait on Phenom for that.
Barcelona will be benchmarked with server applications.
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Jeff007245
As far as Barcelona is concerned, it most likely won't be the processor for more of these estimates. We'll have to wait on Phenom for that.
Barcelona will be benchmarked with server applications.
Umm, both Barcelona and Phenom are the same architecture, aka K10.
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
do you mean slower clock/clock or slower overall? I don't think that even the most rabid amd fanboy thinks that barcelona at intro will beat a Q6850, much less a Q6950.Originally posted by: Amaroque
I don't have a prediction.
If I were to speculate, I think Barcelona will be slower to start, but may end up being faster.
IPC may be higher, but AMD has a hard time with Mfg. Clock speeds will be much slower. Once AMD gets the speeds up, then Barc will probably be faster.
You've never met OCHungry!! hehe.
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Jeff007245
As far as Barcelona is concerned, it most likely won't be the processor for more of these estimates. We'll have to wait on Phenom for that.
Barcelona will be benchmarked with server applications.
Umm, both Barcelona and Phenom are the same architecture, aka K10.
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So we have Barcelona core. Are the new Opteron and the Phenom CPU's identical? Does one have something the other doesn't?
The only thing I really know is that Opteron is for servers and Phenom is for desktops. So, enlighten me, what is the difference?
And also, what is the difference in todays Opteron and Athlons. Pin count?
Thanks
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So we have Barcelona core. Are the new Opteron and the Phenom CPU's identical? Does one have something the other doesn't?
The only thing I really know is that Opteron is for servers and Phenom is for desktops. So, enlighten me, what is the difference?
And also, what is the difference in todays Opteron and Athlons. Pin count?
Thanks
Originally posted by: cubeless
oh oh oh!!! this is like the price is right!!! i say it will be 1% faster at everything!!!