Barcelona runs at 3.0 ghz

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: GFORCE100

Originally posted by: JAG87
AMD needs to draw bees to the hive before we have too much intel honey in our hands.

A sweet phrase indeed, I like it. Must be one of your own making as I haven't seen it anywhere else.

ye, I made that one up on the spot.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Whatever AMD has up its sleeve, if it's fast they NEED to post some benchmark results and/or let a few choice review sites some access for benchmarking. If they don't anyone who might possibly buy a Phenom X4 will already have bought a $250ish Q6600 and a $150 P35 motherboard by the time Phenom sees the light of day. Their lack of willingness to do anything but show a picture of a running systems leaves me somewhat skeptical of the performance. If you remember back to when the Athlon64 X2's came out, they were forthcoming with pre-release information because they knew they had a winner. The same is true with Intel and the Conroe release.

edit: Interesting that there is zero explanation on what the third card does in 'TripFire'. Is it for gaming, physics, running Folding@home while you rip DVDs, or what? Another indication that it's either not very useful or its implementation is half baked at the moment (IMHO).

I read somewher that the third card in the "TripFire" is for physics calculations and processing.

 

[mhrlive]

this is the N°1 concurrent ,
AMD show off 3.0Ghz Barcelona and three 2900XTs in one !!!!

here is the full article HERE

just enjoy good people

 

[Acanthus]

The more news i hear about barcelona, the less excited i am

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
The more news i hear about barcelona, the less excited i am

I agree, and it's the lack of performance data that is the most worrying. AMD had the perfect chance to show off Barcelona's performance at 3ghz, but instead they keep us waiting (probably because it's not all it's cracked up to be).

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: mhrlive
this is the N°1 concurrent ,
AMD show off 3.0Ghz Barcelona and three 2900XTs in one !!!!

here is the full article HERE

just enjoy good people

Why should we click your link to a blog with google ads, when the content all came directly from The Inquirer and adds no additional value?

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: mhrlive
this is the N°1 concurrent ,
AMD show off 3.0Ghz Barcelona and three 2900XTs in one !!!!

here is the full article HERE

just enjoy good people

Why should we click your link to a blog with google ads, when the content all came directly from The Inquirer and adds no additional value?

cause its obviously his website and he just wants us to go to it DUH

 

[JackPack]

This demo was a sham.

Originally posted by: Kristopher Kubicki

To his credit, the image on DT and every other publication was canned -- AMD gave it to media. They did not let media take their own pictures of the demo systems. Nor would they disclose what speeds the demo systems were running at.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8221

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: JackPack
This demo was a sham.

Originally posted by: Kristopher Kubicki

To his credit, the image on DT and every other publication was canned -- AMD gave it to media. They did not let media take their own pictures of the demo systems. Nor would they disclose what speeds the demo systems were running at.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8221

pretty much

it probably was A64 6000+ lol

 

[srp49ers]

actually, it probably was not a sham

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41342

 

[Nemesis 1]

I don't believe it was a sham. I can see K10 running @3.ghz. The thing thats a sham however is probably this.
K10 has the ability to shut down 1/2/3 cores. It was probably running on one core.

Man the inquirer came out and said Chris was an out and out liar!

Pretty harsh considering the source.

The Inquirer said they could run the machine take pics . Do anything but run benchies . If that is a fact . Now would have been a good time to show Task manager while running 4 programs. But they didn't why? Because it couldn't run all 4 cores @ 3ghz.
That would have been the only way to tell if indeed all 4 cores were clocked @ 3GHZ . Which I don't believe they were. So once you have some games using multi threads . You will need all 4 cores running at top speed.

 

[Arkaign]

Looks horrible. If it were decent AMD would almost certainly have leaked some benchies, as this would have a positive effect for them NOW. As is, every week that passes more people replace old X2s/Optys with C2D/C2Q.

 

[JAG87]

Guys no matter how you look at it, there can only be 2 outcomes:

outcome #1
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is crap, and in that case AMD will lose so much market share to intel, that it just might be the end for them.

outcome #2
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is so damn good that AMD wants to catch Intel completely unprepared. In that case AMD will gain so much market share to intel, that it will be back to K8 vs P4 days.



obviously I am hoping for the latter. I think everyone is for sake of out wallets.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: JackPack
This demo was a sham.

Originally posted by: Kristopher Kubicki

To his credit, the image on DT and every other publication was canned -- AMD gave it to media. They did not let media take their own pictures of the demo systems. Nor would they disclose what speeds the demo systems were running at.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8221

pretty much

it probably was A64 6000+ lol

It was a complete lie. Pictures were allowed.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: JAG87
Guys no matter how you look at it, there can only be 2 outcomes:

outcome #1
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is crap, and in that case AMD will lose so much market share to intel, that it just might be the end for them.

outcome #2
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is so damn good that AMD wants to catch Intel completely unprepared. In that case AMD will gain so much market share to intel, that it will be back to K8 vs P4 days.



obviously I am hoping for the latter. I think everyone is for sake of out wallets.

blah.... i hope its number 2 otherwise i missed out on getting a QX6800 ES.

Im saving up for a barcelona rig to hold me off until penryn V8. However JAG i can see your comment on why the V8 isnt a good idea.

Both chips would need to perform near the same specs, otherwise one will hold the other down in overclocking. That would mean i would need to fit 2 chips of the same week/bin for the board /cpu combo to work out well.

But if you look at a dual cpu watercooled rig, with 2 different loops, each cpu on its own loop. That has to be mighty sexy.

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: JackPack
This demo was a sham.

Originally posted by: Kristopher Kubicki

To his credit, the image on DT and every other publication was canned -- AMD gave it to media. They did not let media take their own pictures of the demo systems. Nor would they disclose what speeds the demo systems were running at.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8221

Take anything Kris says with a grain of salt, I do not care if you are an Intel fanboy or what. What he posted was a flat out lie and everyone knows it.

http://www.uberpulse.com/us/20...m_desktop_quadcore.php

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: JAG87
Guys no matter how you look at it, there can only be 2 outcomes:

outcome #1
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is crap, and in that case AMD will lose so much market share to intel, that it just might be the end for them.

outcome #2
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is so damn good that AMD wants to catch Intel completely unprepared. In that case AMD will gain so much market share to intel, that it will be back to K8 vs P4 days.



obviously I am hoping for the latter. I think everyone is for sake of out wallets.

blah.... i hope its number 2 otherwise i missed out on getting a QX6800 ES.

Im saving up for a barcelona rig to hold me off until penryn V8. However JAG i can see your comment on why the V8 isnt a good idea.

Both chips would need to perform near the same specs, otherwise one will hold the other down in overclocking. That would mean i would need to fit 2 chips of the same week/bin for the board /cpu combo to work out well.

But if you look at a dual cpu watercooled rig, with 2 different loops, each cpu on its own loop. That has to be mighty sexy.

exactly man, and the power that thing would consume! think of the dolphins...
a dual cpu system is a waste any way you look at it. unless you need all those cores for business, like rendering or encoding. if you are gonna use it just for crunching, you are doing humanity more harm than good.

and by the way aigo, refrain from buying anymore G0 ES chips. There are QX6950 A4 chips floating around already, and you should be able to buy one fairly soon. I was already offered one, but fortunately I have more brains then money. No wait a sec, thats not so fortunate... :roll:

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: JAG87
Guys no matter how you look at it, there can only be 2 outcomes:

outcome #1
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is crap, and in that case AMD will lose so much market share to intel, that it just might be the end for them.

outcome #2
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is so damn good that AMD wants to catch Intel completely unprepared. In that case AMD will gain so much market share to intel, that it will be back to K8 vs P4 days.



obviously I am hoping for the latter. I think everyone is for sake of out wallets.

blah.... i hope its number 2 otherwise i missed out on getting a QX6800 ES.

Im saving up for a barcelona rig to hold me off until penryn V8. However JAG i can see your comment on why the V8 isnt a good idea.

Both chips would need to perform near the same specs, otherwise one will hold the other down in overclocking. That would mean i would need to fit 2 chips of the same week/bin for the board /cpu combo to work out well.

But if you look at a dual cpu watercooled rig, with 2 different loops, each cpu on its own loop. That has to be mighty sexy.

exactly man, and the power that thing would consume! think of the dolphins...
a dual cpu system is a waste any way you look at it. unless you need all those cores for business, like rendering or encoding. if you are gonna use it just for crunching, you are doing humanity more harm than good.

and by the way aigo, refrain from buying anymore G0 ES chips. There are QX6950 A4 chips floating around already, and you should be able to buy one fairly soon. I was already offered one, but fortunately I have more brains then money. No wait a sec, thats not so fortunate... :roll:

AHAHAHAHAHAHA... i think i am the other way around. I just got into the hobby of picking up ES chips after my uncle introduced me to someone in china he works with. He has access to a lot of ES chips, but i already tried at a penryn ES. It was a no go. :[

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: JAG87
Guys no matter how you look at it, there can only be 2 outcomes:

outcome #1
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is crap, and in that case AMD will lose so much market share to intel, that it just might be the end for them.

outcome #2
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is so damn good that AMD wants to catch Intel completely unprepared. In that case AMD will gain so much market share to intel, that it will be back to K8 vs P4 days.



obviously I am hoping for the latter. I think everyone is for sake of out wallets.

blah.... i hope its number 2 otherwise i missed out on getting a QX6800 ES.

Im saving up for a barcelona rig to hold me off until penryn V8. However JAG i can see your comment on why the V8 isnt a good idea.

Both chips would need to perform near the same specs, otherwise one will hold the other down in overclocking. That would mean i would need to fit 2 chips of the same week/bin for the board /cpu combo to work out well.

But if you look at a dual cpu watercooled rig, with 2 different loops, each cpu on its own loop. That has to be mighty sexy.

exactly man, and the power that thing would consume! think of the dolphins...
a dual cpu system is a waste any way you look at it. unless you need all those cores for business, like rendering or encoding. if you are gonna use it just for crunching, you are doing humanity more harm than good.

and by the way aigo, refrain from buying anymore G0 ES chips. There are QX6950 A4 chips floating around already, and you should be able to buy one fairly soon. I was already offered one, but fortunately I have more brains then money. No wait a sec, thats not so fortunate... :roll:

AHAHAHAHAHAHA... i think i am the other way around. I just got into the hobby of picking up ES chips after my uncle introduced me to someone in china he works with. He has access to a lot of ES chips, but i already tried at a penryn ES. It was a no go. :[

how come?

 

[darkfalz]

AMD sandbagging again, what else is new?

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: darkfalz
AMD sandbagging again, what else is new?

Can someone ban him?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: darkfalz
AMD sandbagging again, what else is new?

Can someone ban him?

why? they have been sandbagging.

All the promises so far, have been answered with delays. There 2900 series blows compared to a 8800GTX series.

Intel is the first quad chip. True its not a true quad, but it does work and act like a quad.

45nm from intel is going to get rolled out soon, and AMD is still loaded with delays.



So how is his statement false?


@Jag the two he has, he is using them. He said maybe when he gets another ES he might sell me one. But my heart is still on the V8 rig.

 

[zsdersw]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
its not a true quad,

Yes it is. There's 4 cores in one package. That's as "true" of a quad-core CPU as you can get.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: zsdersw

Originally posted by: aigomorla
its not a true quad,

Yes it is. There's 4 cores in one package. That's as "true" of a quad-core CPU as you can get.

not its not, its 2 dual core dies glued together. thats not a true quad core design.


@aigo your a core whore :laugh:

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: JAG87
Guys no matter how you look at it, there can only be 2 outcomes:

outcome #1
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is crap, and in that case AMD will lose so much market share to intel, that it just might be the end for them.

outcome #2
the reason AMD is not leaking performance numbers is because barcelona is so damn good that AMD wants to catch Intel completely unprepared. In that case AMD will gain so much market share to intel, that it will be back to K8 vs P4 days.



obviously I am hoping for the latter. I think everyone is for sake of out wallets.

I'm hoping for #2, but I'm gonna feel pretty stupid if it is...