Basic concepts that seem to escape the grasp of most people

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rsbennett00

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No. That is an example of something people fail to grasp. Of course it would take off.

Yeah, it's hard for people to think that the wheels have nothing to do with the propulsion system, not sure why they can't get that through their heads.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Difference between single click and double click.

Fucking double clicking hyper links and single clicking icons. Been using Windows 25 years and still not getting the concept?
In fairness to folks who don't/can't install ad blocker, Google's f'in double click ad system has screwed up the convention.
 

SlitheryDee

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Few years back I was talking to my dad about insurance and how the premiums go up every year even if you never make a claim. He said "Well, the insurance company knows that if you go for a while without an accident, you're due." I argued no, that's not the case, and pointed out that if you flip a quarter and it comes up tails 9 times, it's still 50/50 odds on the tenth flip. He told me 'no', heads is more likely on the 10th flip.

This is one that I have to admit being subject to. It isn't that I don't know it's true intellectually, but that my mind wants to resist believing it on a more visceral level. I always wondered why my first instinct is to resist this idea.

Although...while it is equally probable to get heads or tails on a single flip of a fair coin, isn't there a greater than 50% probability of getting at least one heads in a set of 10 flips? I think the brain instinctively tries to combine those two cases. It knows that each flip is a 50/50 proposition, but it also knows that in a given set of 10 there is a higher probability of at least one heads showing up, so it spends the entire set anticipating that flip. The more the set goes on without that heads result, the more certain it is that the next flip will be heads in order for this set to not be atypical.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Few years back I was talking to my dad about insurance and how the premiums go up every year even if you never make a claim. He said "Well, the insurance company knows that if you go for a while without an accident, you're due." I argued no, that's not the case, and pointed out that if you flip a quarter and it comes up tails 9 times, it's still 50/50 odds on the tenth flip. He told me 'no', heads is more likely on the 10th flip.

They have maximum bets on roulette wheels, because if a trend starts... all you gotta do is double your bet against it and eventually the 50/50 chance becomes so astronomically low... that you'd take the casino to the cleaners.

There's an enormous difference between single 50/50 odds, and 10 of those in a row.
 

Tweak155

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The difference between right / wrong and being justified / unjustified.

Probably the biggest one I just /facepalm is that the % off of an item or the MSRP is IRRELEVANT. All that matters is the final cost of something and what it is worth. But if everyone realized this, we'd probably have no economy.

I have a friend that will tell me the "original" price of something (my wife still does this on occasion, I've been working on her for years though so she's a lot better) and I just shake my head.

In combination of the above, sometimes (every time? if you have control) a perfectly valid reason to buy something is simply because you want it, you don't have to try to justify it because it was on sale.
 

IronWing

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In combination of the above, sometimes (every time? if you have control) a perfectly valid reason to buy something is simply because you want it, you don't have to try to justify it because it was on sale.

Yep. I buy mineral specimens once in a while. There is no possible rationalization for doing so other than "Ooh, shiney!"
 

SlitheryDee

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I have a friend that will tell me the "original" price of something (my wife still does this on occasion, I've been working on her for years though so she's a lot better) and I just shake my head.

employee: "What are we wanting to sell this widget for"?

manager: "$19.95"

employee: "What do I put under 'original price'"?

manager: "I dunno. Just put a higher number there"

...and that's how "original prices" come to be. Their sole purpose is to be a higher number than what the company wanted to sell their product for in the first place. They aren't cutting it from that price. It was never going to be sold for that. The weird thing is that I think that 99% of people know this by now, but they carry on talking about it because it makes them feel better.
 

Vdubchaos

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Nov 11, 2009
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Basic concept to YOU is not a basic concept to EVERYONE.

Everyone is different and EVERYONE is stupid in some way shape or form about things they have very little knowledge or experience of.

I think it's pretty ignorant and stupid for OP to not understand that.

Something I learned in the IT world. Just because someone doesn't know how to hook up a mouse, doesn't mean they are stupid. To me it's easy cause I've done it before and do it on regular basis. But some people never even touch a computer.

Heck I remember there was a guy at a company that simply refused to use a computer all together. He was rich, had islands and no, he didn't know how to hook up a mouse.

Was he stupid? Not at all, I'm pretty sure he was smarter than MOST people.

Hope you understand.
 

WelshBloke

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employee: "What are we wanting to sell this widget for"?

manager: "$19.95"

employee: "What do I put under 'original price'"?

manager: "I dunno. Just put a higher number there"

...and that's how "original prices" come to be. Their sole purpose is to be a higher number than what the company wanted to sell their product for in the first place. They aren't cutting it from that price. It was never going to be sold for that. The weird thing is that I think that 99% of people know this by now, but they carry on talking about it because it makes them feel better.
That's actually illegal in the UK.
 

holden j caufield

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if there is a red light ahead there is no reason to speed up to the light. I just let the car coast and the guy next to me who speeds up to the light triggers it.

If you just coast from way back by the time he triggers the light you don't waste your gas/brakes etc and you still have momentum and you cruise on. Most of the gas is wasted on trying to get that 2 ton car moving so the less you come to a complete stop the better.
 

IronWing

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Basic concept to YOU is not a basic concept to EVERYONE.

Everyone is different and EVERYONE is stupid in some way shape or form about things they have very little knowledge or experience of.

I think it's pretty ignorant and stupid for OP to not understand that.

Something I learned in the IT world. Just because someone doesn't know how to hook up a mouse, doesn't mean they are stupid. To me it's easy cause I've done it before and do it on regular basis. But some people never even touch a computer.

Heck I remember there was a guy at a company that simply refused to use a computer all together. He was rich, had islands and no, he didn't know how to hook up a mouse.

Was he stupid? Not at all, I'm pretty sure he was smarter than MOST people.

Hope you understand.

 

SlitheryDee

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That's actually illegal in the UK.

I don't know how you could enforce that though. Seems like all they'd have to do is list said widget for the "original price" for a while to get around it. In that case the consumer loses out because they have to pay more for something for however long it takes to satisfy the legal definition of "original price".
 

nickbits

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Another one that I've heard of but never personally run into is people that don't understand how graduated income tax rates work. i.e. they believe there are certain breakpoints where earning another dollar of income will result in reduced earnings because the taxes on their entire gross income will increase.

I used to think that when I was a teenager. I think it's excusable until you are old enough to have to file taxes.
 

Vdubchaos

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I used to think that when I was a teenager. I think it's excusable until you are old enough to have to file taxes.

Keep in mind, that from accountant perspective, it's simple % game.

TO MOST people, especially those in lower tax brackets that are struggling, income changes might have quite DEEP effects on their Health Insurance benefits and other programs they might no longer qualify for (which also means/loss of income).

 

WelshBloke

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I don't know how you could enforce that though. Seems like all they'd have to do is list said widget for the "original price" for a while to get around it. In that case the consumer loses out because they have to pay more for something for however long it takes to satisfy the legal definition of "original price".

It has to be sold at the original price for some arbitrary time (I think it's 6 months) before you can say that the new price is a sale price.
You could release it at a higher price for those six months I suppose but then everyone would be buying from your competitors for those 6 months.
 

ctbaars

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Nov 4, 2009
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Is this a call out thread? I feel like I'm being called out. Mods?
I have done and said a lot of stupid things over my lifetime. I've become more patient with age.

Best exchange at work this year.
Employee: We get paid every two weeks on Thursdays. I get extra pay this year!
Boss: I don't pay you more.
I walk by.
Employee: Hey, whose right? Do we get paid more or the same?
Me: Shit!
hehe
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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That actually happened to me once on a COLA bump.
It was just enough to take me out of the high end of one bracket into the low end of the next bracket. I think it was only about a $40 loss for the year, but a loss is a loss.

Tax brackets how do they work?!??!
 
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We have a heat pump, so bumping the thermostat a few degrees will keep the heat pump going. Bumping it up more than that will kick in the aux/strip heat. The heat pump blows in at probably 85-90F, while the aux heat is closer to 110. Which do YOU think will warm the house faster?
Temp doesn't matter. The answer depends on volume of air at a given temp, and/or total BTUs.
 
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