imported_Tango
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Originally posted by: yllus
Hmm, let me see if I can actually give you something concrete to think about.
1) The French tend to take contradictory views mostly for the sake of garnering attention. If America/the U.K. say the sun is hot, France will immediately release a statement to say it's cold. While opposing points of view are healthy and useful, it gets a little bit obvious and annoying at times. Especially when it's done 90% of the time.
2) Hypocrisy. I remember almost laughing out loud when I read France's President threaten to use nuclear weapons to retaliate in the case of terrorist attacks occurring on French soil. But France's position on Iran, a known provacateur in the Middle East (in concrete terms, by funding and funneling weapons to the terrorist group Hezbollah), is rather cozy. I imagine they wouldn't really be too fond of Israel nuking Iran, but hey, it's okay for France to threaten as much!
3) Racism. France (and Quebec in Canada) has a major problem with racism and the intolerance of other cultures than their own. There's a distinct cold shoulder being given to non-Caucasian immigrants, while the great irony is that the only natively French-speaking immigrants France or Quebec are likely to recieve are from countries like Algeria, Lebanon and Morocco. Yet these people are massively rejected, marginalized and isolated from the upper reaches of French society.
4) Cultural bigotry. French culture, by most benchmarks, is likely spiralling to its demise. This has made the native French more intolerant of other cultures and languages than ever, and it becomes expressed even in the country's laws. No religious headwear allowed in state schools? A law like that would mean near-civil war in the United States, but we know which country is derided for being provincial and intolerant more often than the other... Quebec and their French-only sign law is a joke unto itself.
5) Fiscal policies only a mother could love. France had a youth unemployment rate of 22% mostly attributable to the wackjob employment contracts mandated in the country, yet attempts to reform those laws were massively rebuffed and even generated incidents of violence on the nation's streets. Get with the program already - people don't have a right to a job. You're essentially enslaving business owners.
Very interesting debate for me, considering I live six months a year in New York and six months in Paris, and I am not French nor American. I've always been amused by this phenomenon.
Let's see some of these points:
Point 1) They often think differently. Fact is usually most of the world think like them, not like americans. Matter of fact, if you would ask randomly who's always doing things differently than other people, most people wouls say the British, not the Frenchs. Stanrting from still using the silly pound/gallon/miles system everybody else but a few anglophone countries has abandoned for a reason.
Point 2) Hypocrisy is the base of all politics in all countries. This one really doesn't fit in this list.
Point 3) Kinda true. I feel white Frenchs are often more racist than many New Yorkers. I don't know many people from different parts of the country. Some people here in the US do tell me racism is still a big issue in many areas, but I have no direct experience with that.
Point 4) Laughable. Frenchs are by definition Libertines. In fact, most of the reason why French people make fun of Americans is because of their puritanism. You should also consider that French-produced culture is probably the most important in the world together with the German and british, depending on the subject/period. French artists, literati, philosophers, scientists and economists just shaped the world as we know it and a way that makes western culture and civilization unthinkable without those inputs.
Point 5) True, but this has no effect on the life of American people, does it? French people like those policies, voted the people who envisioned them... so if it's good for them I have no problem with it. Let any country decide for their own domestic fiscal policies.
While I disagree with many of France's economic policies I might however note that it's partly because of those policies that people enjoy life so much more down there than here in the US. You can't get everything at the same time. But you'd be surprised how many people in Europe wouldn't give up their 35-hours-a-week jobs for a million dollars contract requiring you the 90-hours-a-week schedules many financial analysts are doing here in New York.
Point 6) Quote:
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
American men hate the fact the Frenchmen are better lovers and more sexually attractive to women.
This must be true, based on the fact that usually American males dislike French guys, but I never heard American females having any issue with them. The opposite is actually also true. Almost every american guy I know who travelled to Paris has at least 50 times told me about how sexy French girls were, while complaining about guys. Kinda funny.
As a sidenote, I would remark how the thousands of young american college girls spending a semester in Paris are usually quite vocal about the amount of action they are getting.
Now some other metropolitan myths I have noticed and should be debunked:
French people often consider Americans gross and uneducated. Many French people think so. It's basically a cultural issue. European in general fail to consider somebody educated unless he/she is competent on subject often perceived as less important in the US. Many people I know in Paris would consider a Physics Ph.D gross if he had no clue about art history or literature. Cultural specialization is so much more extreem in the United States academic world.
French people are unpolite. I have to say, often true. Especially Parisians. It's probably the only place in the world where people selling you stuff treat you badly while doing business with you. And I mean even shopgirls, bartenders and waitresses. Some people think this is charming, I personally don't and hate this.
French people are arrogant. Again I hate to say this, but yes, they often are. Again mostly Parisians.
French and Americans use double-standards. Cross-accusations here. I might say everybody in the world does it, but it's interesting nobody ever recognize it.