Batman Arkham Origins thread

[thespyder]

Mark Hamill retired as the voice of the Joker. As far as I know, Kevin Conroy is doing the voice of Batman.

According to IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2842418/?ref_=sr_4), Batman is now voiced by Roger Craig Smith. The Joker is voiced by Troy Baker.

 

[futurefields]

It's Ezio!

 

[Carfax83]

Some of the game technology that will be featured in Batman Arkham Origins has been detailed in this video on dsogaming

Fast forward the video to around the 35.45 mark.

List of effects include:

HBAO+

PhysX (smoke, fog, cloth, turbulence, environmental particle effects plus some others)

Percentage closer soft shadows

TXAA (man I hope they have something else in this game because the blur is just too much)

NVidia Depth of Field

This game is going to be awesome, and I already have it pre-ordered

 

[futurefields]

Nice that they added all those graphical effects. Hopefully they improved the engine so it doesn't stutter outdoors.

 

[thespyder]

Been playing Arkham Asylum lately just to pass the time. Such an awesome game, and so much fun trying to find all of the secrets and hidden stuff. it isn't a hard game by any stretch, but fun none the less.

With that having been said, I really think I am going to take a pass on Arkham Origins. It isn't being developed by Rocksteady, Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill are not involved and everything I have read suggests that it will be simply more of the same only not as good.

 

[mikeymikec]

All versions do, yes, regardless of where you purchase it. Even the steam versions have it. It's bullcrap, and I won't ever buy Batman games because of it - the only way I would play them is 1) on console or 2) if they were free with GPUs (I got batman: AC free) But I won't support SecuROM installation limits with my wallet.

In the past I've come across games like "Warhammer: Dawn of War" that originally came with SecuROM but a later (official) update removed it when the game was no longer considered "current" I believe.

On the topic of Arkham Origins though, is it just me or is Batman seemingly becoming more steroid-style musclebound with every new game? This game hasn't really got my attention yet, I liked the previous two though.

 

[thespyder]

On the topic of Arkham Origins though, is it just me or is Batman seemingly becoming more steroid-style musclebound with every new game? This game hasn't really got my attention yet, I liked the previous two though.

It's a theme that started back with Frank Miller (or possibly even further), so it has been around since the 80s at least. His art work drew him as a very physically muscular (if quite aged) form. The point, as I understand it, was that he was supposed to be physically imposing. And I personally actually buy that much more than most of the actors who have played the role in movies and TV. Even the cartoon Batman looks more like a linebacker than he does a gymnast. I want to say even the original comic art had him as more of a muscle bound figure.

but I agree that this game really has yet to grab me. In fact, just the opposite. Shame as it really looks like "Well, the last two made money. let's grind out another one and see if we can bilk the consumer base one more time before we kill the franchise."

 

[mikeymikec]

but I agree that this game really has yet to grab me. In fact, just the opposite. Shame as it really looks like "Well, the last two made money. let's grind out another one and see if we can bilk the consumer base one more time before we kill the franchise."

Ditto. I picked up Arkham Asylum out of the budget aisle on the off-chance in the local supermarket after trying the demo a year or three before. I was really impressed by the side missions and the

Spoiler

revelation through getting all the secrets regarding the Warden and his issues

, and how that plugged directly into Arkham City (but I think was wasted in its conclusion in the sequel). I suppose Arkham City made too much of a mess to get another sequel out of, so the obligatory reset/reboot button gets pressed, it's a prequel or at least set earlier in time yet Batman looks older and less clean cut. What? I'm also not impressed by the new voice for Batman either, it isn't that distinctive. Bruce Wayne's voice isn't meant to be distinctive, granted, but Batman's is supposed to be more so. Not "The Dark Knight" distinctive either though

My feeling about Batman always was that he's educated and uses his brain to beat the opponent as well as being physically skilled, he's not a super-hero. By drawing him this way suggests that Bane should just become a good guy and don the cape.

 

[pcslookout]

Just got this free with my video card purchase. Not sure if I will like the game though.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Just got this free with my video card purchase. Not sure if I will like the game though.

Same,looks interesting but will be a type of game i never played before.Almost every game in my library is a fps game besides World of Tanks being the only MMO.

 

[thespyder]

I'm also not impressed by the new voice for Batman either, it isn't that distinctive. Bruce Wayne's voice isn't meant to be distinctive, granted, but Batman's is supposed to be more so. Not "The Dark Knight" distinctive either though

My feeling about Batman always was that he's educated and uses his brain to beat the opponent as well as being physically skilled, he's not a super-hero. By drawing him this way suggests that Bane should just become a good guy and don the cape.

For my money, it doesn't get better than Kevin Conroy for the voice of The Batman (nor better than Mark Hamill as the Joker). I have not heard anyone who can easily make me buy the complete change between Bruce Wayne and The Batman.

 

[Fallen Kell]

No Mark Hamil as Joker?! I don't think I'll buy this one.

.... Yeah I have mixed feelings about this as well. I mean he essentially WAS the voice of the Joker in all the modern animations and games, and really tied all the various mediums together.

 

[futurefields]

Have they released any gameplay video?

 

[sweenish]

It's a theme that started back with Frank Miller (or possibly even further), so it has been around since the 80s at least. His art work drew him as a very physically muscular (if quite aged) form. The point, as I understand it, was that he was supposed to be physically imposing. And I personally actually buy that much more than most of the actors who have played the role in movies and TV. Even the cartoon Batman looks more like a linebacker than he does a gymnast. I want to say even the original comic art had him as more of a muscle bound figure.

but I agree that this game really has yet to grab me. In fact, just the opposite. Shame as it really looks like "Well, the last two made money. let's grind out another one and see if we can bilk the consumer base one more time before we kill the franchise."

He was built, but closer to a swimmer.

 

[thespyder]

He was built, but closer to a swimmer.

I just did a search on The batman images and pretty much every cartoon image that came up was not 'swimmer' stature but body builder type (schwarzeneggeresque) type builds, except for the Adam West portrayal. This included the old Justice league Cartoon, the Frank Miller Batman, the Old Detective Comics Batman and most of the actual Comic Book portrayals.

I am not talking Bane level big, but not 'Sleek' by any stretch of the imagination. For instance, if you were to compare The Flash to The Batman, Bats is absolutely bulkier by a considerable margin. Not having super powers, he still had to hit as hard as the Super Powered bunch, so he really bulked up.

And then if you look at The Frank Miller Batman and he is a real bruiser.

 

[Carfax83]

Almost 20 minutes of gameplay from Arkham Origins (PS3 version) on IGN.

It has some minor spoilers as well, so be warned.

Looks like Batman has some new combat animations. They aren't that obvious, but they are definitely new. I'm sure there'll be more as well, especially for countering.

Game definitely looks great though, a worthy addition to the Batman Arkham series :thumbsup:

 

[Carfax83]

Batman Arkham Origins bursting with NVidia technology.

Article claims that Batman Arkham Origins will feature fluid, cloth, particle and turbulence PhysX, which would make it the heaviest PhysX title released so far. Only BL2 has close to that level of PhysX usage, but BL2 doesn't have turbulence.

I wonder what kind of dedicated PhysX card they will recommend? Batman Arkham City recommended a GTX 460 for dedicated PhysX..

They will eventually release a detailed PhysX effects video before the game launches. I'll be sure to post it ^_^

 

[Keeper]

The story and gameplay only kept getting better from Asylum to City. Looking forward to this one.

I am glad you wrote that. I struggled with Asylum. Could not finish it.

Could not put city DOWN. Sigh.......... Do I try ad go back and finish Asylum?

 

[zinfamous]

Edit: Ok, scratch that. I just checked IMDB and they recast both The Batman and The Joker???? Looks like I will give this one a pass, at least until the reviews are in. And even then it will have to really move the bar. Shame.

I recall this being announced prior to City, and, I believe, with Asylum or shortly after release of Asylum that Hamill was retiring from the Joker after the second game.

At least, I know that I knew Arkham City was going to be his last performance as the Joker before that game was released...so I knew that somehow. Likewise for Conroy.

 

[alkemyst]

Boy, I really need to go back and finish Arkham City. I got so bogged down with side quests that I lost track of the main story and got bored.

KT

Same here. It was fun at first, but then I lost track of WTF am I supposed to go to finish what I am supposed to do.

 

[Carfax83]

PC gameplay from the NVidia tech event in Montreal

One thing I find assuring about Batman Arkham Origins is that it's DX11 native with no support for DX9, unlike Arkham City which supported DX9.

Hopefully this results in none of the DX11 issue that plagued Arkham City. Game also releases on Friday this week!

 

[Majcric]

I still need to finish the first two games. Are they worth playing or should I jump straight to the third in the series?

 

[Carfax83]

I still need to finish the first two games. Are they worth playing or should I jump straight to the third in the series?

They are definitely worth playing. The first game, Arkham Asylum is what made Rocksteady into a triple A developer.

 

[sweenish]

I just did a search on The batman images and pretty much every cartoon image that came up was not 'swimmer' stature but body builder type (schwarzeneggeresque) type builds, except for the Adam West portrayal. This included the old Justice league Cartoon, the Frank Miller Batman, the Old Detective Comics Batman and most of the actual Comic Book portrayals.

I am not talking Bane level big, but not 'Sleek' by any stretch of the imagination. For instance, if you were to compare The Flash to The Batman, Bats is absolutely bulkier by a considerable margin. Not having super powers, he still had to hit as hard as the Super Powered bunch, so he really bulked up.

And then if you look at The Frank Miller Batman and he is a real bruiser.

Cartoon, yes. Earlier comics, no. Swimmers have muscles, just look at Phelps or Lochte. 70's Batman, current comic Batman, and original comic batman are built much more like swimmers than linebackers.

He also doesn't "hit as hard" as the super-powered bunch. Read any fight between Batman and someone obviously stronger. It's never toe-to-toe and they never trade blows unless the bat is wearing something to augment his strength like he did in TDKR.

 

[blackened23]

Same here. It was fun at first, but then I lost track of WTF am I supposed to go to finish what I am supposed to do.

Erm, short attention span? If you didn't follow what to do in Arkham City, i'm just surprised at this comment. Arkham City has to be one of the easiest if not the easiest and most intuitive games to follow in terms of objectives, It doesn't ask you to do much. Even a kid can follow the game with practically no effort, so I don't get this at all. And, from what I remember, the map tells you what the current objective is. So not knowing the objective..uhhh....what... Unless you're one of the 3$ steam sale guys who played for 8 minutes without paying attention. I've done that before too, but I don't judge a game based on a cursory look like that.