Batman Arkham Origins thread

[Carfax83]

IGN gave the game a 7.8, while gamespot gave the game a 6, which to me is absolutely ridiculous. D:

Personally, I think this game is better than Arkham City. The boss fights are absolutely epic, especially with Deathstroke. It performs much better out of the box than Arkham City as well, although there are a few trouble spots that need some optimization; like the combat arena in Penguin's ship.

For some reason the frame rate in that area is really low.. Anyone else experiencing(ed) that?

 

[mikeymikec]

Is "performing out of the box better than AC" due to upgraded hardware since then and a less significantly upgraded game?

The default DX11 on my 960T/5770/1080p sucked (I'd guess that I got at 15-25fps out of it during action scenes).

 

[Carfax83]

Is "performing out of the box better than AC" due to upgraded hardware since then and a less significantly upgraded game?

What I meant was, at launch Arkham Origins doesn't have the performance issues that Arkham City did..

The default DX11 on my 960T/5770/1080p sucked (I'd guess that I got at 15-25fps out of it during action scenes).

What settings are you using?

 

[Grooveriding]

Does anyone get slight momentary slowdowns ? These are the type you get when you turn quickly to one side or coming out of a QT event back to having control. Not really FPS drops, but frames do go down a little.

I'm not playing this one off my SSD though, so maybe it is just HD thrashing. It's not heavy physx effects happening, as this game seems to better optimized than others I've played that use GPU physx. Video card usage is never going over 70% on either card.

Game is a blast and a lot of fun. I really like the feeling of swinging through the city with the hook.

 

[CPA]

Did any of you guys download the new NVidia drivers that were released earlier this week? From my understanding, the drivers were tweaked with Batman in mind. Just wondering if you're still experiencing the frame rate and slowdown issues with the new drivers or not.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Did any of you guys download the new NVidia drivers that were released earlier this week? From my understanding, the drivers were tweaked with Batman in mind. Just wondering if you're still experiencing the frame rate and slowdown issues with the new drivers or not.

No, but I will be doing that when I get home from work tonight, thanks!

 

[gorcorps]

Did any of you guys download the new NVidia drivers that were released earlier this week? From my understanding, the drivers were tweaked with Batman in mind. Just wondering if you're still experiencing the frame rate and slowdown issues with the new drivers or not.

Will make sure to do so.

Checked on gamespot's review and their biggest ***plaint is that it's basically just a rehash of Arkham City. Which I can see as a slight disappointment in not breaking any new ground, but I really liked AC so I'm still going to like this.

I only played for like 30 mins (basically the intro mission) and stopped when I got to the batcave.

 

[Soundmanred]

Even though it is just more of the same thing as Asylum/City, I'm enjoying it.
There are enough new scenarios and characters to keep me interested.

 

[Baasha]

The world's first 4K video of Batman Arkham Origins:

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwuoZZenZq4

Every setting is maxed out (including PhysX and TXAA) @ 5160x2560 (13.2MP)! :biggrin:

 

[Carfax83]

I'm not playing this one off my SSD though, so maybe it is just HD thrashing. It's not heavy physx effects happening, as this game seems to better optimized than others I've played that use GPU physx. Video card usage is never going over 70% on either card.

Thats a common experience with Unreal Engine 3 games as they are constantly streaming data in the background. Personally I only experience it when entering a new area for the first time.. The only real frame rate issue I've had is in Penguin's ship, specifically the combat arena. For some reason, my GPU usage drops down to 45% when looking towards the lights.

 

[Carfax83]

Will make sure to do so.

Checked on gamespot's review and their biggest ***plaint is that it's basically just a rehash of Arkham City. Which I can see as a slight disappointment in not breaking any new ground, but I really liked AC so I'm still going to like this.

I only played for like 30 mins (basically the intro mission) and stopped when I got to the batcave.

That reviewer is an idiot. It makes me question the worth of professional reviews, because many of the most successful video game franchises are often rehashes or respins of the same with some improvements here and there but the core gameplay remains the same..

For example, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed etcetera.. Penalizing Arkham Origins for doing the same thing in that respect is unfair.

Arkham Origins gives us more of the same with some tweaks and improvements, which is FINE! If it ain't broke, no need to fix it.. That's not to say the game doesn't have it's faults.

One thing I agree with, is that Gotham City itself seems empty except for the excessive abundance of criminals. Sure it's a snowstorm and the time frame is Christmas Even and all, but the true reason why they did that is most likely technical.

Since it's a current gen game, adding more entities to make the city more lifelike would most likely compromise the already poor performance of the 360 and PS3.

 

[mikeymikec]

What settings are you using?

I was using the default settings. Since then I changed to DX9 and no AA/AF, at which point I'd say fps was 40 most of the time with a drop to 20 occasionally.

 

[thespyder]

IGN gave the game a 7.8, while gamespot gave the game a 6, which to me is absolutely ridiculous. D:

Personally, I think this game is better than Arkham City. The boss fights are absolutely epic, especially with Deathstroke. It performs much better out of the box than Arkham City as well, although there are a few trouble spots that need some optimization; like the combat arena in Penguin's ship.

For some reason the frame rate in that area is really low.. Anyone else experiencing(ed) that?

I haven't played yet so this is speculation on my part. The Gamespot review says that although the mechanics are pretty much the same, they aren't as well executed. I.e. much larger areas but with little reason or need for that. Fight mechanics are as fluid but you end up doing it a lot more with little 'New' to make the repetition worth it.

So if these are true (and again, I haven't played so I don't know) I would think the assessment is accurate. Basically, if playing Arkham City plays the same as Arkham Origins mechanically, but the execution is just more for the sake of more, I'd think that the score is accurate. After all, if I can play Arkham City and have all of the same stuff as Arkham Origins, but in a tighter and more coherent package, why don't I do that?

Just an observation.

 

[Carfax83]

I was using the default settings. Since then I changed to DX9 and no AA/AF, at which point I'd say fps was 40 most of the time with a drop to 20 occasionally.

I'm pretty sure Batman Arkham Origins doesn't support DX9. Only DX10 and DX11. So if you disable DX11 features, then it should be playing in DX10 mode.

 

[Carfax83]

So if these are true (and again, I haven't played so I don't know) I would think the assessment is accurate. Basically, if playing Arkham City plays the same as Arkham Origins mechanically, but the execution is just more for the sake of more, I'd think that the score is accurate. After all, if I can play Arkham City and have all of the same stuff as Arkham Origins, but in a tighter and more coherent package, why don't I do that?.

The problem with this particular review though, and the reason why he/she is being called out for it, is that the reviewer has a habit of giving the Call of Duty games 9s, so that's bias on her/his part..

How can you criticize the Batman Arkham Origins for "more of the same," when Call of Duty has been doing that for years whilst getting 9s and 10s?

The reason he/she gave it a 6, is because it's not made by Rocksteady.

 

[Carfax83]

Major game breaking bug for the PC version found!

At least I'm not the only one. They really need to fix this quickly, as you can't unlock that tower without going through the vent.

 

[thespyder]

The problem with this particular review though, and the reason why he/she is being called out for it, is that the reviewer has a habit of giving the Call of Duty games 9s, so that's bias on her/his part..

How can you criticize the Batman Arkham Origins for "more of the same," when Call of Duty has been doing that for years whilst getting 9s and 10s?

The reason he/she gave it a 6, is because it's not made by Rocksteady.

Again, I haven't played the game. But the way I read the review, it was only "More of the same" from a mechanics point of view. And it was "Larger" not because it needed to be, but because they wanted to be able to say it was larger.

Imagine making a football field 10x the size. Technically the game plays the same, only you have to move the ball 10 times as far to get a touch down. Would it still be 'As fun' to watch or play?

AC was a decent size, and appropriate for the content (in my personal and subjective opinion). Adding 4 times the real-estate and 4 times the throw away useless combats, merely to make it larger than the first, doesn't add value. In fact, it considerably decreases the value because you get 4x as sick of the repetition over the course of the game play.

The bottom line is that "Bigger isn't always better." Or at least that is how I read her review. I am not trying to defend her review if it was a bad review. I just don't see anything thus far that proves it is a bad review.

And all reviews are subjective. There are quantifiable components of any review, but the vast majority of review are highly subjective. Particularly in online video game reviews. There is no objective quantifiable formula for calculating a game review. There are far too many subjective components for anything like a unified equation to work out that way. So any review you read or stand by is at least in part subjective.

 

[fixbsod]

Having beaten AA and played thru most of AC and currently playing AC, and yet to play AO I would much rather have the linearity of AA than the larger open world of AC. It was an interesting idea but didn't seem to play well with Batman mechanics -- it's not a scrounger/looting game and you spend most of your time just swing swing swinging and diving. A lot of times it feels like filler material as you're just going from one end of the city to the other and so the sights get a little old. Yeah, there's some Riddler puzzles, but other than that there isn't much incentive to explore the city.

I do also worry that AA is going to go the way of Assassin's Creed where they just milk the heck out of it for sequel after sequel. So far 3 Batman's in 4 years...getting a little too close and I am expecting much more of the same gameplay with minor touches rather than any dramatic changes. I know freeflow combat fighting is pretty amazing and likely isn't leaving much on the table but there are other systems begging for an overhaul (Riddler Puzzles!! Batman gear!! Actual choices??)

edit: ^^ Just finally read the gamestop and IGN reviews and it sounds like AO is just more of the same of AC...will likely wait until its $20 ... color me disappointed, I was hoping for something meaty rather than a re-tread.

 

[MBrown]

I just had my first real boss fight in the game and I have to say that it was pretty epic.

 

[JujuFish]

I do also worry that AA is going to go the way of Assassin's Creed where they just milk the heck out of it for sequel after sequel. So far 3 Batman's in 4 years...getting a little too close and I am expecting much more of the same gameplay with minor touches rather than any dramatic changes.

There have been 2 Batman games in the last 4 years. The first game was released in 2009, and they've taken 2 years per game since. Hardly comparable to Ubisoft putting out an Assassin's Creed game every year.

 

[WiseUp216]

Around 2 hours in here. I like it but without the Joker it feels like it is missing something. A little less personality than the previous 2 games.

 

[Carfax83]

Around 2 hours in here. I like it but without the Joker it feels like it is missing something. A little less personality than the previous 2 games.

Joker is in the game.

 

[Deders]

To be fair, Like the Zero Punctuation AC review mentioned, it's hard to know where to go from all the developments they had already made in Arkham City. I do feel there are some features that are more refined now that the new developers have had a fresh go at it, for instance the challenges are presented in a way that makes you want to learn different combat techniques to earn XP, which also encourages you to use them more in battle. Something I struggled with in the previous games (but then I did enjoy just attacking and blocking to build up combo's)

It's not as colorful or quite as graphically pleasing as AC but maybe this has more to do with the darker side of a more natural city environment, although there are some things that I've noticed, for instance when the lighting hits batman's cowl just right, it shines like never before.

Overall, although I'm not very far through this, I feel it is more of the same awesomeness that the previous games delivered, just with a fresh environment and story lines etc which is no bad thing.

I think if there was to be another sequel it would be great if both development teams could work together on it.

 

[WhatBezels]

Batman: Arkham Origins - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

(Click for media)

Here's Batman: Arkham Origins, which runs very well on a triple-monitor setup! No extra work required such as config edits or software hacks. The game is fun and worth checking out, and, of course, the storyline is solid and very intriguing. Thumbs up from me.

 

[boxleitnerb]

How do I perform an "hanging ledge takedown"?
I stand on the ledge marked in the picture, but it doesn't indicated that a special takedown is possible, just the normal drop takedown.