Batman V Superman

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DAPUNISHER

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I have not seen it mentioned, so my bad if someone already covered it, but Nolan did a cool homage. The movie definitely borrows heavily from Excalibur. The most obvious scene happens when Doomsday and Superman impale each other, and Superman pulls himself further in, to finish impaling DD. It is from the end of Excalibur, which was on the marque as coming soon, to the theater Bruce is at with his parents when they are killed. It is exactly the finish between Arthur and Mordred.
 
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JEDI

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Are you so poor you have to torrent .iso's? Or are you just a leech? No worries, I paid for your copy for you, by buying 2, you're welcome.

did you get the ultimate edition?
or the extended ultimate edition?


this cut made the film a lot more clearer about the motivations of batman/superman wanting to bring each other down.
and luthor manipulating each.

plus explains the 'Martha' stoppage much better.

but still don't understand how lois knew to retrieve the spear when the Doomsday fight started?
now how superman was able to stay conscious, much less fly, with the spear in hand?


oh, and batman's new digs are the same as the one in the Ex Machina movie.
(juvet landscape hotel?)
 
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Linux23

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You know what. I never hated the movie when I saw it in the theatre but now I really like the movie thanks to the ultimate edition. They even redid the end credits where at the end it says BvS Ultimate Edition.
 

JEDI

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All the reviewers said that the the Ultimate Edition was an improvement over the theatrical release. The difference might be comparable to the Ultimate Watchmen vs the theatrical Watchmen.

I'm have been convinced to watch the Ultimate Edition and just pretend that the theatrical doesn't exist
just finished the Watchmen: Ultimate edition.
3hrs 35min

wtf was with the Black Freighter anime sewn into the movie?!
besides that, It was great.

and since I don't remember the theater cut of the watchmen, I too will only remember the Ultimate cut.
 

Balt

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Watched the ultimate edition today. After hearing about how bad the movie was, I had pretty low expectations.

I thought it was okay, actually. Not great, but better than I expected. I didn't see the theatrical release, so I can't compare the two. None of the scenes in the extended version felt superfluous, though.

I do have to reiterate that I still think Jesse Eisenberg was a terrible choice for Lex Luthor.
 

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did you get the ultimate edition?
or the extended ultimate edition?


this cut made the film a lot more clearer about the motivations of batman/superman wanting to bring each other down.
and luthor manipulating each.

plus explains the 'Martha' stoppage much better.

but still don't understand how lois knew to retrieve the spear when the Doomsday fight started?
now how superman was able to stay conscious, much less fly, with the spear in hand?


oh, and batman's new digs are the same as the one in the Ex Machina movie.
(juvet landscape hotel?)
Sorry for the late answer. I have the extended edition, which came with the theatrical cut too.

Lois was instructed by Jor-El how to stop the Kryptonians in Man of Steel. And she dates one of them. She knows more about them than most. The news broadcast was covering events transpiring at the crashed alien ship site. Hence, Lois knew whatever came out of it was from Krypton, and she had witnessed what the green stuff did to Clark.

Being able to carry the spear was the part that I am with you on. It made little sense to have him do it other than to reenact Arthur v. Mordred from Excalibur. One moment it saps him completely, the next he can will himself to use it. They could have added Batman having a lead tip sheath or lead pool cue style case for it. And instead of throwing it in the water, had the lead cover put back on. That way Superman could melt the lead at the last moment before impaling DD.
 

Aharami

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just watched the ultimate edition. Thought it was pretty good. Glad I didn't see the theatrical version. Looks like Snyder went to great lengths to address all the biggest criticisms of the theatrical version. Although, Luthor's motive is never made apparent. Sure, people know Luthor is a villain in the Superman universe, but people also know the origin story of Batman, and that was explained. So why not Luthor's motive?
 

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i got the impression he was contacted (or he contacted) Darkseid and had decided on preferring to be a pet rather than fodder.
 

Aharami

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i got the impression he was contacted (or he contacted) Darkseid and had decided on preferring to be a pet rather than fodder.

Is that who Luthor is communicating with at the end (big dude with horns holding the three cubes) when he is in the pool of Pomegranate seeds? That didn't look like Darkseid to me.
 

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Is that who Luthor is communicating with at the end (big dude with horns holding the three cubes) when he is in the pool of Pomegranate seeds? That didn't look like Darkseid to me.

From what I read at some fansite it is one of Darkseid's minions he contacts.


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JEDI

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Is that who Luthor is communicating with at the end (big dude with horns holding the three cubes) when he is in the pool of Pomegranate seeds? That didn't look like Darkseid to me.

StephenWolfe.. darkseids lieutenant

wtf is up w/the 3 mother boxes?
motherboxes are as common as smartphones where darkseid lives.

god, I hope dc movies don't re-image the motherbox as rare cosmic cubes and revolve a story around them for the Justice League movie
 

Aharami

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One thing I don't get - how was Lex Luthor able to activate the ship's computer to access its communications and information archive, when no other govt official was able to access that?
 

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One thing I don't get - how was Lex Luthor able to activate the ship's computer to access its communications and information archive, when no other govt official was able to access that?

he was using Zod's fingerprints at some point

don't recollect if he used anything else Zod related other than turning Zod's body into Doomsday
 

Fritzo

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StephenWolfe.. darkseids lieutenant

wtf is up w/the 3 mother boxes?
motherboxes are as common as smartphones where darkseid lives.

god, I hope dc movies don't re-image the motherbox as rare cosmic cubes and revolve a story around them for the Justice League movie

They'll be DC's Tesseract

From what I can gather, it looks like Cyborg's creator is basic his tech off of a Motherbox.
 

Aikouka

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I finally watched the movie, and I can definitely see why people didn't like it. The Ultimate Edition still feels like a bit of a mess at times, and unfortunately, given that the issue is with the script itself, that's not really something that you could fix with fancy editing -- barring reshoots of course. Frankly, I'm mostly disappointed that they couldn't even put a damn wig on Ezra Miller to give him Barry's blonde hair. Also,
The Flash looked fucking stupid in that dream sequence.
 
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nakedfrog

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just finished the Watchmen: Ultimate edition.
3hrs 35min

wtf was with the Black Freighter anime sewn into the movie?!
besides that, It was great.

and since I don't remember the theater cut of the watchmen, I too will only remember the Ultimate cut.
Tales of the Black Freighter appeared as a comic within the Watchmen graphic novel, with parallel story elements.
I haven't seen the Ultimate edition, just the Director's cut.
 

KLin

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Doomsday's origin was stupid. He looked like the cave troll from LOTR too.
 

JEDI

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lois getting the spear immediately when the fight started could have been explained by:
batman's scanners show lois still at the docks. he calls her on her cell phone and tells her he needs the spear to stop doomsday.

simple.. sigh
 

Childs

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lois getting the spear immediately when the fight started could have been explained by:
batman's scanners show lois still at the docks. he calls her on her cell phone and tells her he needs the spear to stop doomsday.

simple.. sigh

They could have just cut out Lois throwing away the spear in the first place. Superman picking up the spear would have still weakened him and it would have been the same result, without giving people something to complain about.
 

JEDI

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They could have just cut out Lois throwing away the spear in the first place. Superman picking up the spear would have still weakened him and it would have been the same result, without giving people something to complain about.

winnar!!
 

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Just started the movie. Only 6 minutes in and I'll already really annoyed by the product placement. Bruce Wayne would not drive a Jeep Renegade, and every single vehicle in this city seems to be a FCA. I thought I saw something different, then realized it was a Fiat. I think I briefly saw the grill of a Lincoln, but it was very fast and I only noticed it because I was looking quite hard for any evidence of something else.

I know this isn't a new thing, but it's usually not this obvious.
 

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Half watched the movie with the blu ray release.

So far, it is really heavy. Long runtime at 3 hrs.

There is a lot of good there, but it needed to be more economical.
 

gorcorps

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So the movie was kind of a mess. I actually liked Eisenberg here, but he simply didn't play a Lex Luthor that we expected. There were times I thought if this was some other villain people may actually like him (maybe the riddler) but since he was supposed to be Lex it just didn't feel right.
 

desura

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Finished it. It is definitely inferior to Man of Steel. It could have been great with just a bit more thought put into it. Like, creating Doomsday was dumb, and a sop to the comic book obsessives, and it definitely is trying to set up an avengers crossover. Lex Luther is more the joker in this movie too. I would rather that they set it up as genuine disagreement between the two instead of this bit about Luther fooling and blackmailing them into doing it.
 
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