Baton Rouge mom got into trouble because she whipped her sons because they...

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Baton Rouge mom got into trouble because she whipped her sons because they...
broke into a house and stole stuffs (allegedly).

http://theadvocate.com/news/police/1...em-burglarizin

I think more parents should be more like her so kids know what is right and wrong.

I reckon the boys will not break into anyone house anytime soon.

You can't teach your kids right and wrong without resorting to violence? Sounds like a parenting fail.
 
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Blue_Max

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You can't teach your kids right and wrong without resorting to violence? Sounds like a parenting fail.

"30-year-old single mother of six" combined with the fact these boys don't already know that stealing is wrong, this is indeed a colossal parenting and adulthood fail.
 

Atreus21

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So how did your behavior change when your parents beat you?

Well, I stopped forging signatures on poorly-graded papers, and subsequently lying about it for one.

There are plenty of things I learned from it.
 

Paratus

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Well, I stopped forging signatures on poorly-graded papers, and subsequently lying about it for one.

There are plenty of things I learned from it.

We talking an open handed spanking or a real beating?
 

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"30-year-old single mother of six" combined with the fact these boys don't already know that stealing is wrong, this is indeed a colossal parenting and adulthood fail.

Which underscores the problem. It's weak parenting to use corporal punishment because, among other things, it means you failed prior to that and hence you felt you had no other option.
 

Greenman

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Which underscores the problem. It's weak parenting to use corporal punishment because, among other things, it means you failed prior to that and hence you felt you had no other option.

I'm going to guess you don't have kids.
 

Atreus21

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Which underscores the problem. It's weak parenting to use corporal punishment because, among other things, it means you failed prior to that and hence you felt you had no other option.

Don't agree. Sometimes controlled violence is an appropriate response to sufficiently bad behavior.

My 6 year old daughter exhibited not just misbehavior but real cruelty to my 4 year old son awhile back. Imagine knocking someone down and spitefully laughing at their cries of pain, and doing all this having not been provoked in the slightest.

How is that to be punished in a just manner? A stern talking-to, time-out, and/or denial of various things she wants or likes doesn't seem to cut it - in her mind (and more importantly in my son's mind) she got away with it.

In this case, she got smacked on the butt, amid other non-violent punishments.
 
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Don't agree. Sometimes controlled violence is an appropriate response to sufficiently bad behavior.

My 6 year old daughter exhibited not just misbehavior but real cruelty to my 4 year old son awhile back. Imagine knocking someone down and spitefully laughing at their cries of pain, and doing all this having not been provoked in the slightest.

How is that to be punished in a just manner? A stern talking-to, time-out, and/or denial of various things she wants or likes doesn't seem to cut it - in her mind (and more importantly in my son's mind) she got away with it.

In this case, she got smacked on the butt, amid other non-violent punishments.

Sorry, not following the logic of using violence to tell a kid that violence is wrong.
 

purbeast0

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it is funny how the ones who always know how to be the best parents are always the ones without kids. it's obvious from the comments in here who doesn't have kids.
 

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"The 13-year-old, Spears’ eldest, had bleeding wounds, and her 12-year-old son received cuts that broke the skin, while the 10-year-old boy had a scratch to his hand, the report says."

Sorry, but "bleeding wounds" and "cuts that broke the skin" are not acceptable. I am a parent and I never laid a hand on my children to punish them. Not saying I wouldn't have if the circumstances warranted it. I don't know how I would have acted, just that I never needed to and for that I am grateful.
 

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"The 13-year-old, Spears’ eldest, had bleeding wounds, and her 12-year-old son received cuts that broke the skin, while the 10-year-old boy had a scratch to his hand, the report says."

Sorry, but "bleeding wounds" and "cuts that broke the skin" are not acceptable. I am a parent and I never laid a hand on my children to punish them. Not saying I wouldn't have if the circumstances warranted it. I don't know how I would have acted, just that I never needed to and for that I am grateful.

I'm not saying the beating was good or bad but I do wonder how bad those actually were. Speaking as someone whose skin cuts easily and then bleeds those adjectives don't necessarily equate to pain or overly harsh treatment. I'll get cut by the stupidest things and not even notice until I see blood dripping on something
 
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We've been spanking kids since the dawn of man. Worked all these thousands of years, why stop now. Go with what is proven to work.
 

waggy

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I DO think that IF used very sparingly spankings work.

BUT it's to late on these kids. they are already teens. At this point she failed teaching that theft is wrong.

no amount of spankings is going to help now.
 

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Sorry, not following the logic of using violence to tell a kid that violence is wrong.

Yes it is illogical but think for a second who the intended recipient of such discipline is: a child. A child who does not have the reasoning skills and logical thought processes an adult would be expected to have. A kid recognizes pain & fear. You can't always sit down and have an adult conversation with children explaining the nuances of proper behavior expected from normal and functional members of society. But you apply corporal punishment and they will "get it" sooner. And the lesson is remembered for the next time they get an urge unlike a discussion, too hard for them to follow at a young age, that is in one ear and out the other.

Perhaps that's because violence isn't always wrong.
Agreed.
 
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allisolm

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I'm not saying the beating was good or bad but I do wonder how bad those actually were. Speaking as someone whose skin cuts easily and then bleeds those adjectives don't necessarily equate to pain or overly harsh treatment. I'll get cut by the stupidest things and not even notice until I see blood dripping on something

Oh, please. I don't care how many times you cut yourself and don't notice, your weird reactions don't justify punishment that leaves children with bleeding wounds and cuts that broke the skin (assuming the article is correct in its description). The idea that anyone might consider that a "good" thing breaks my heart.
 
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it is funny how the ones who always know how to be the best parents are always the ones without kids. it's obvious from the comments in here who doesn't have kids.
^ This.

The internet is chock full of idiots and are determined to let the world know it.
 

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One way to get some perspective on some of this is to get into group therapy and watch people fall back out of their chairs and writhe around on the floor trying to escape blows that landed on them as they relive traumatic events just like when they actually happened. It can greatly strengthen your sphincter.
 

TechBoyJK

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Sorry, not following the logic of using violence to tell a kid that violence is wrong.

'getting a dose of your own medicine'

You can try all the 'smart' methods you want; but if the kid isn't learning, and you let them be a menace because you're scared to break out the belt, then you need the belt, too.
 
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