BATTLE OF THE BOLTS! -- GTX 780 Lightning vs. R9 290X Lightning @ 1080p --

Face2Face

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GTX 780 Lightning VS. R9 290X Lightning @ 1080p

Rtsurfer and I decided to have a friendly Lightning vs. Lightning competition. Because of monitor/TV limitations we are only testing 1080p today. We also have different PC configurations, so we had to make some changes to make this as equal as we can. Rtsurfer disabled HT on his 4770K and dropped the cpu clocks to 4.6GHz. He also bumped his memory speeds down a little. We are using different operating systems as well, but the performance difference for the games we benched is negligible. We only benched games that have built-in benchmarks. This leaves very little room for variation between runs. See the system specs below.

Rtsurfer's Rig

Core i7 4770K @ 4.6GHz (HT Disabled)
GSkill Trident X @ 2133MHz 10-12-12-31 8GB
Asus Z87 Maximus VI Hero
Windows 8.1 Pro
MSI R9 290X Lightning 4GB – Stock cooler

Face2Face's Rig

Core i5 3570K @ 4.8GHz
Samsung 32nm @ 1866MHz 9-9-9-24 16GB
Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H
Windows 7 Pro
MSI GTX 780 Lightning 3GB – NZXT G10 bracket with TT Water 3.0

We benched all of the games below at three different clock speeds for each card.

Out of the box clock speeds

R9 290X Lighting stock boost clocks = 1080MHz core and 1250MHz memory
GTX 780 Lightning stock boost clocks = 1124MHz core and 1502MHz memory

We also wanted to measure clock per clock performance as well. Because of the memory interface differences the memory bandwidth is not equal.

R9 290X Lightning = 1189MHz core and 1603MHz on the memory
GTX 780 Lightning = 1189MHz core and 1603MHz on the memory

Last, we wanted to run both of our cards at their Max OC.

R9 290X Lighting = 1260MHz core and 1625MHz on the memory
GTX 780 Lightning = 1450MHz core and 1656MHz on the memory

Now the GTX 780 wasn’t blessed with Hynix or Samsung memory, so it’s scaling beyond 1300MHz+ on the core leaves little to be desired. I would also think its performance would be impacted more so as the resolution increases beyond 1080p. This is due to lack of memory bandwidth.

Here are the settings we used to run each game.





Tomb Raider



Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 4% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 9% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 1% faster



Hitman Absolution



Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 14% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 22% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 14% faster



Metro 2033



Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 12% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 17% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 12% faster



Resident Evil 6



Stock vs. Stock = 780 is 8% faster
Clock per Clock = 780 is 2% faster
Max Overclock = 780 is 10% faster



Batman Arkham Origins

Going to run this bench again - - Results later tonight. Sorry folks.



Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 12% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 23% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 11% faster



Metro Last Light



Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 7% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 13% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 4% faster



Bioshock Infinite



Stock vs. Stock = 780 is 12% faster
Clock per Clock = 780 is 7% faster
Max Overclock = 780 is 14% faster





S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat



Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 7% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 11% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 4% faster


Overall with all games tested.

Stock vs. Stock = 290X is 5% faster
Clock per Clock = 290X is 11% faster
Max Overclock = 290X is 3% faster

Thanks to Rtsufer for taking the time make all of this happen. If anyone wants proof of the actual runs, I can link them here in the OP.
 
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TreVader

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1260 on air? Jesus


It looks like the 780 ran out of shader power. Or something, 1450 and still losing to the 290X?
 

Face2Face

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It looks like the 780 ran out of shader power. Or something, 1450 and still losing to the 290X?

Held back by the abyssal memory clocks. I have noticed scaling beyond 1300Mhz on the core is pretty crap due the memory only clocking to 1656Mhz. Wish I had a proper SK Hynix or Samsung card to bench with.
 

wand3r3r

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Nice comparison.

I'm slightly surprised that the 780 can't even catch up at 1450 core, although it'd be a little closer with the 290. 1250/1450 are golden overclockers, it's fun to see the comparison. The clock per clock is interesting so you can compare the average overclocks to or your own card clocks.
 

Gikaseixas

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NICE, we need to do more of these
Great rigs you guys have there. I'm skipping this generation unless a great deal comes along the way
 

Stuka87

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Great job guys! You both obviously put in quite a bit of work on this. I especially like the Clock for Clock tests. Very few review sites do such a test.

Only game missing really is BF4.
 

Elfear

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Thanks gents. Great work on the shootout. That 780 really does need some better ram. Probably would have tipped the results to favor the 780 if it came with Hynix/Samsung.
 

rtsurfer

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Nice comparison.

I'm slightly surprised that the 780 can't even catch up at 1450 core, although it'd be a little closer with the 290. 1250/1450 are golden overclockers, it's fun to see the comparison. The clock per clock is interesting so you can compare the average overclocks to or your own card clocks.

I can't make it if you are calling ny 290x Golden or not.
Trust me there are better ones out there.
Even lava's 290x L should be better, I have a 72.1% ASIC while he has 80 something. Technically I just have a regular 'Lightning'.


Thanks gents. Great work on the shootout. That 780 really does need some better ram. Probably would have tipped the results to favor the 780 if it came with Hynix/Samsung.

I should be able to hit 1300Mhz on water.
So I guess the Results would still be the same.

If you are testing AMD's highest, why are you not testing the 780 Ti?

Because
1) Ti lightnings are not Public.
& this primarily started as a comparison between Lightnings.

2) If anyone with a Ti is willing to join in & do the necessary.
I don't think we have a problem including it in.
 
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tviceman

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Yeah the memory overclock on the 780 kills it. You could've gotten another 5% or so performance out of the max overclock.

Shame on MSI for not going with better vram.
 
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1.45ghz is freaken insane, NV's lesser density really allows them to push massive clocks with the extra volts.

Do you have an idea of the power draw at that OC? Could well be 500W hehe
 

Makaveli

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If you are testing AMD's highest, why are you not testing the 780 Ti?

Easy answer this seems to be a review between friends and they are using the cards they own in their systems. If you want to send him a Ti i'm sure he would love to test it

P.S OP love the thread title

I was fully expecting to see a picture of usain bolt somewhere in there though lol.
 

chimaxi83

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Damn, the last time I clocked a Geforce that high was my DC II 680, but that required soldering and voltage mods. Nice :thumbsup:
 

Elfear

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1.45ghz is freaken insane, NV's lesser density really allows them to push massive clocks with the extra volts.

Do you have an idea of the power draw at that OC? Could well be 500W hehe

There are some power numbers in the first few posts of this thread with the same card at 1440/1650. I saw 640W at the wall running Crysis 3.
 

rtsurfer

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How is that Batman result even possible?

What do you mean. ?

Edit: I see what you mean.
I have contacted Face2Face & will do a re-run to see if there is any change.
They indeed look buggy.
 
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