Battlefield 1 Benchmarks (Gamegpu & the rest)

[Bacon1]

Could be interesting ...

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/791380969899061248

Why different cards and processors in the same table

 

[Head1985]

Just benched the 980 Ti at 1424/7800 at 2560x1440. Hit 96.9 avg/82.5 min, which put it well above a stock 1070 (89.2/78.3). While I don't have time to switch in the 1070 again for OC testing, my previous benches on that card suggest it would end up even with the OC'd 980 Ti. With your 1533MHz overclock, you'd be well above the performance that any 1070 can achieve in BF1. You'd also be above the 96Hz cap on your monitor!

980Ti is one of the best cards ever made.Its already 2years old, but still after OC it beat GTX1070 in every game and its not much slower than GTX1080.
One of the reason is maxwell=Pascal so things are different than with 780TI(kepler vs maxwell).Things will change only after NV release a true new architecture..Untill then 980TI will be really fast card.

On the other hand nvidias gx104 SKU are worse every generation.GTX670 destroyed GTX580.GTX970 only tie with 780TI and was faster atleast in new games.And 1070 is just slower than 980TI.

 

[AtenRa]

Well GTX 980Ti is not yet 2 years old (May 2015) but i will agree it was a very nice card and still is.

 

[Carfax83]

Keep in mind that not a single Pascal card I've benched (I've purchased five so far) has achieved more than a 12% overclock. If you see way more than that in published reviews on press sample cards, you can bet they were cherry picked before being sent out for testing.

Is that 12% from the boost clock, or from the base clock? If it's the latter, then that's somewhat understandable as Pascal already overclock themselves fairly substantially. If it's from the base clock, then you must have the worst cards ever produced LOL!

My 1080 auto overclocks to over 2ghz (base clock is 1771) and the memory is automatically set to 10.8ghz as well. Stock 1080's base clock is 1607, and boost is 1733. So when you look at it from the perspective of the base clock speeds for the reference cards, then the overclocking potential of Pascal looks crazy..

I mean we're talking a 30% increase..

 

[Carfax83]

980Ti is one of the best cards ever made.Its already 2years old, but still after OC it beat GTX1070 in every game and its not much slower than GTX1080.

This has been brought up several times before, and the answer is always the same. The 980 Ti overclocked uses way more power than the 1070 and 1080, plus does not dominate over the 1070 in DX11 titles (we're talking highly overclocked models). In some DX11 games, Pascal is much faster than Maxwell. Witcher 3 comes to mind, as do several other DX11 titles like Far Cry Primal, GTA V etcetera..

You can't keep focusing on performance without looking at the overall power efficiency. Performance per watt is the most important metric by far, and this is what NVidia focuses on..

On the other hand nvidias gx104 SKU are worse every generation.GTX670 destroyed GTX580.GTX970 only tie with 780TI and was faster atleast in new games.And 1070 is just slower than 980TI.

1070 is not slower than the 980 Ti The truth is, they trade blows overclocked vs overclocked. At stock clocks, the 1070 edges out the 980 Ti practically every time.

Also, the 1070 is supposed to be the successor of the 970, so if you're going to compare it to any Maxwell card, it should be the 970..

 

[nurturedhate]

1070 is not slower than the 980 Ti The truth is, they trade blows overclocked vs overclocked. At stock clocks, the 1070 edges out the 980 Ti practically every time.

Also, the 1070 is supposed to be the successor of the 970, so if you're going to compare it to any Maxwell card, it should be the 970..

That right there is the issue though. That should not be the case based on practically the entirety of gpu history.

 

[Termie]

Hey folks, the final numbers are now up in my BF1 CPU & GPU Benchmarking Analysis. SLI haters will have something to crow about, but so will SLI lovers.

Is that 12% from the boost clock, or from the base clock? If it's the latter, then that's somewhat understandable as Pascal already overclock themselves fairly substantially. If it's from the base clock, then you must have the worst cards ever produced LOL!

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I'm talking about stable boost vs. stable boost. I base my overclocking results on what a card does at stock versus what it does at maximum overclock before hitting instability. I know Pascal can hit 2000MHz, or even 2100MHz for short bursts (but never for very long). Because all Pascal cards will run at around 1800MHz at stock, these overclocks aren't quite as mind-blowing as they may at first appear.

As an aside, Carfax, is that G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL14 kit stable on your Asus board? I run G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL16, and was wondering if that fancy new stuff could actually run stable on X99. I might want to pick some up.

 

[Carfax83]

That right there is the issue though. That should not be the case based on practically the entirety of gpu history.

The GTX 980 Ti is likely an exception because of its tremendous overclocking headroom. People seem to forget that the base clock of the 980 Ti is 1ghz, and the boost clock is 1075. I think most GTX 980 Tis can likely hit around 1.4ghz or slightly more, whilst a good chip will easily hit 1.5ghz and up on air.

That's insane overclocking, and I don't think it's been like that for every generation..

 

[happy medium]

The GTX 980 Ti is likely an exception because of its tremendous overclocking headroom. People seem to forget that the base clock of the 980 Ti is 1ghz, and the boost clock is 1075. I think most GTX 980 Tis can likely hit around 1.4ghz or slightly more, whilst a good chip will easily hit 1.5ghz and up on air.

That's insane overclocking, and I don't think it's been like that for every generation..

102 fps to 136 fps , wow!

Maximum Overclock Comparison
. Max GPU Clock Max. Memory Clock
Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti Xtreme Gaming 1492 MHz 2090 MHz
ASUS GTX 980 Ti Matrix 1517 MHz 2100 MHz
Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti WaterForce 1510 MHz 2100 MHz
ZOTAC GTX 980 Ti AMP Extreme 1505 MHz 2096 MHz
MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning 1518 MHz 2090 MHz
Colorful iGame GTX 980 Ti 1432 MHz 2020 MHz
Palit GTX 980 Ti JetStream 1515 MHz 2100 MHz
ASUS GTX 980 Ti STRIX 1472 MHz 2070 MHz
ZOTAC GTX 980 Ti AMP! 1465 MHz 1990 MHz
MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 1507 MHz 2040 MHz
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC+ 1491 MHz 1900 MHz
Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming 1512 MHz 2100 MHz
GTX 980 Ti 1437 MHz 2070 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/26.html

 

[Carfax83]

I'm talking about stable boost vs. stable boost. I base my overclocking results on what a card does at stock versus what it does at maximum overclock before hitting instability. I know Pascal can hit 2000MHz, or even 2100MHz for short bursts (but never for very long). Because all Pascal cards will run at around 1800MHz at stock, these overclocks aren't quite as mind-blowing as they may at first appear.

Yeah but still, once you look at the base clock speed which is only 1607, then it actually looks impressive.. Boost clocks aren't guaranteed at all and are subject to several factors. The only guaranteed clock speed is the base clock.

As an aside, Carfax, is that G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL14 kit stable on your Asus board? I run G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL16, and was wondering if that fancy new stuff could actually run stable on X99. I might want to pick some up.

Yes, definitely stable. My kit is actually for Skylake dual channel, and not quad channel though. So I ended up having to tweak the memory sub timings to suit a quad channel setup. I think I ended up using some sub timings that were too aggressive though, because last week one of my memory modules died.

So I have it on RMA right now, and I'm using my old DDR4 3200 kit with more relaxed timings (CL16) instead. When I get it back, I plan on using the sub timings on my CL16 kit with my CL14 kit, whilst keeping the more aggressive primary timings so that I don't kill my RAM again

 

[pcslookout]

Could be interesting ...

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/791380969899061248

This is only single player right and not multiplayer ?

 

[moonbogg]

Hey folks, the final numbers are now up in my BF1 CPU & GPU Benchmarking Analysis. SLI haters will have something to crow about, but so will SLI lovers.



I'm talking about stable boost vs. stable boost. I base my overclocking results on what a card does at stock versus what it does at maximum overclock before hitting instability. I know Pascal can hit 2000MHz, or even 2100MHz for short bursts (but never for very long). Because all Pascal cards will run at around 1800MHz at stock, these overclocks aren't quite as mind-blowing as they may at first appear.

As an aside, Carfax, is that G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL14 kit stable on your Asus board? I run G.Skill DDR4-3200 CL16, and was wondering if that fancy new stuff could actually run stable on X99. I might want to pick some up.

Damn nice article Termie. For me personally, that's a perfect article on BF1 performance. For instance, I learned that I may have some CPU bottlenecking going on, which may explain why my SLI scaling isn't as high as it was in BF4. FPS is a little less for me in BF1, and BF1 requiring more CPU speed would perfectly explain that since the GPU's can perform about the same in each game, or even better in BF1. Next on my list of upgrades is a platform. I've put it off long enough. I can't decide between a 6 or 8 core skylake. I still think 6 cores with HT would be a sweet spot for gaming. It has more power than a quad, but not overkill in terms of cores/threads. God what a tough choice. If the 8 cores OC just as well, then that would be the way to go I think.

 

[guskline]

moonbogg, milk the heck out of that 6 core 3930k and then when the Skylake E chips appear go for that build.

P.S. I'm so bad at BF1, the squad commander asked me to leave the squad right during the game. I keep reminding myself "it's only a game. I'm here to have fun." At least he didn't ask me to eat cat food in front of the rest of the squad!

 

[Erenhardt]

moonbogg, milk the heck out of that 6 core 3930k and then when the Skylake E chips appear go for that build.

P.S. I'm so bad at BF1, the squad commander asked me to leave the squad right during the game. I keep reminding myself "it's only a game. I'm here to have fun." At least he didn't ask me to eat cat food in front of the rest of the squad!

LOL
Uninstall
gg! ez
XD

 

[spat55]

LOL
Uninstall
gg! ez
XD

Sums up the whole BF 1 experience along with medics not reviving or dropping kits.

 

[guskline]

LOL
Uninstall
gg! ez
XD

No way! Can't give the squad leader the satisfaction. Besides at 65, I've got to "try" to stay up with you young ens!

 

[Despoiler]

No way! Can't give the squad leader the satisfaction. Besides at 65, I've got to "try" to stay up with you young ens!

I'd think you'd have an advantage because you're old enough to see WWI again.

 

[Mondozei]

P.S. I'm so bad at BF1, the squad commander asked me to leave the squad right during the game. I keep reminding myself "it's only a game. I'm here to have fun." At least he didn't ask me to eat cat food in front of the rest of the squad!

Keep in there, bro

 

[guskline]

I'd think you'd have an advantage because you're old enough to see WWI again.

Actually, in my younger days @27-28 years old I spoke to a blind WWI vet at our local VA who had actually fought in the trenches.

He was blinded by the gas. It was both scary and fascinating listening to him recount the stories of trench warfare.

 

[moonbogg]

moonbogg, milk the heck out of that 6 core 3930k and then when the Skylake E chips appear go for that build.

P.S. I'm so bad at BF1, the squad commander asked me to leave the squad right during the game. I keep reminding myself "it's only a game. I'm here to have fun." At least he didn't ask me to eat cat food in front of the rest of the squad!

Milking is in full effect. Also, I suck at BF1 too. Feels unfamiliar. Although I had a blast using the armored train to bombard the enemy last night. That was genuinely badass.

 

[Despoiler]

It took me a good week to get into a BF1 groove. Somethings I learned that help. Note that I currently only play operations. I love that mode.

1) Get in a squad where the squad leader is issuing orders. The SL is wasting free points for your squad by not issuing orders. Leave and join another squad if they aren't issuing orders. Can't find one? Start a new squad. You'd be surprised how fast it fills up with people looking for someone to issue orders.

2) Work as a squad. This game is far, far more dependent on it than say BF4. Having each of the classes in the squad make you that much more effective.

3) Do not hit space bar to spawn again right away. You can see the medic proximity in your lower left. Most of the time they will come for you. Often times you get killed right away after being revived. The medic proximity display doesn't show the second time you get killed, but they can still revive you. Sometimes it's worth staying dead for a little bit than using a ticket right away.

4) Ground vehicles are powerful, but only if they have a support that can repair. Hopefully your SL will grab a tank. Spawn into as a support. It should be used to push a flag. When it's damaged they should back it to safety, repair it, then go back in. The top scores are always a squad in a vehicle.

5) Learn your effective weapon damage ranges for the guns you are using. These are not modern guns. This is especially true of sniper rifles.

6) If you are a medic hang back behind your squad and stay covered if possible. Medics are a big contributor to winning Operations maps. The tickets last much much longer with good medics.

 

[guskline]

Despoiler, thank you for the tips. I'll try them out.

 

[pcslookout]

Thanks Despoiler this helped a lot!

 

[Annisman*]

Add me on origin boys let's team up. 'Annisman'

Not bragging, but I almost always finish first on my team, you'll want me in your squad haha I promise !

 

[pcslookout]

Add me on origin boys let's team up. 'Annisman'

Not bragging, but I almost always finish first on my team, you'll want me in your squad haha I promise !

Sure.