Battlefield 1943

[Krakn3Dfx]

I picked up BF1943, having been a HUGE fan of BF1942 and having enjoyed BF2 and pretty much detested BF2142.

While 80% of BF1943 is just 1942, and then only 4 maps of that, they have done a lot to improve the gameplay. They've also taken away some aspects of 1942 that made it a more "hardcore" experience, but it's a lot more fun than BF Heroes IMO, and well worth the $15. I'm sure they're going to nickel and dime the hell out of gamers with $10 2-map DLC packs, but personally, for my money, the 3-4 maps it comes with are plenty, and I'll more than get my money out of it.

I will say the sound mix in this game is phenomenal, especially over nice home theater setup. It's almost worth the $15 just to enjoy hearing it.

 

[skyofavalon]

overall its a big downgrade over 1942.Played the 360 demo.They basically improved the graphics and took half the fun out of it.Less players,cant sink ships,no battle ship,cant move ships.

Better off playing the 1942 wake island demo on the PC,much better.

 

[minmaster]

nothing will be as epic as 1942 was. remember when battleships, subs, carriers were all mobile and so crucial to winning.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: pontifex
tried the demo on PS3. seems to be better than BF2 and 2142. now those were shitty games.

too bad it has so few maps.

2142 yes, BF2 no. You were probably just a shitty player

sure, any excuse that makes you feel better about a shitty game

Um, its widely regarded as a very good game. By the general population and reviewers. You're in the vast minority.

http://www.metacritic.com/game...tforms/pc/battlefield2

The majority of review sites/mags can't be trusted as they're often times paid to give a shit game a good review. As for the general population, most people didn't buy BF2. Therefor the majority of people don't like it, as only a minority actually bought it.

BF2 was pure shat.

 

[Polish3d]

The hell it was. It's one of the my personally favorite games of all time, and is a superb game overall.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: pontifex
tried the demo on PS3. seems to be better than BF2 and 2142. now those were shitty games.

too bad it has so few maps.

2142 yes, BF2 no. You were probably just a shitty player

sure, any excuse that makes you feel better about a shitty game

Um, its widely regarded as a very good game. By the general population and reviewers. You're in the vast minority.

http://www.metacritic.com/game...tforms/pc/battlefield2

The majority of review sites/mags can't be trusted as they're often times paid to give a shit game a good review. As for the general population, most people didn't buy BF2. Therefor the majority of people don't like it, as only a minority actually bought it.

BF2 was pure shat.

Well think what you will. I thought it was awesome even though it was buggy. BF2142 was just a rekin. It's like CoD4 then CoD5 since 5 was just a reskin of 4 and that's what 2142 was.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: pontifex
tried the demo on PS3. seems to be better than BF2 and 2142. now those were shitty games.

too bad it has so few maps.

2142 yes, BF2 no. You were probably just a shitty player

sure, any excuse that makes you feel better about a shitty game

Um, its widely regarded as a very good game. By the general population and reviewers. You're in the vast minority.

http://www.metacritic.com/game...tforms/pc/battlefield2

How can a minority be vast?

 

[GullyFoyle]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: pontifex
tried the demo on PS3. seems to be better than BF2 and 2142. now those were shitty games.

too bad it has so few maps.

2142 yes, BF2 no. You were probably just a shitty player

sure, any excuse that makes you feel better about a shitty game

Um, its widely regarded as a very good game. By the general population and reviewers. You're in the vast minority.

http://www.metacritic.com/game...tforms/pc/battlefield2

The majority of review sites/mags can't be trusted as they're often times paid to give a shit game a good review. As for the general population, most people didn't buy BF2. Therefor the majority of people don't like it, as only a minority actually bought it.

BF2 was pure shat.

LOL. Judging by this criteria, even WoW and the Sims were failures. Battlefield 2 had/has far above average popularity. Even four years after its release, more people play it online than 80% of the games out there (from my personal poll of all the games listed by game-monitor.com).

 

[RallyMaster]

The people that thought BF2 was crappy were either expecting something different than it actually was or they sucked at adapting to what BF2 offered. The only people I know who hate BF2 are the people who are too lazy to learn how to get good at it.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
The people that thought BF2 was crappy were either expecting something different than it actually was or they sucked at adapting to what BF2 offered. The only people I know who hate BF2 are the people who are too lazy to learn how to get good at it.

no, BF2 was a shit game that never left beta status.

 

[Beev]

Just like a previous poster said, I'm sick of stupid-ass WW2 games.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My thoughts are that PC gamers got screwed by having to wait 2 months more than console gamers.

Dance with the one who brought you.

console port? :/

 

[way2fast91]

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
The people that thought BF2 was crappy were either expecting something different than it actually was or they sucked at adapting to what BF2 offered. The only people I know who hate BF2 are the people who are too lazy to learn how to get good at it.

I personally loved BF2. Played something like 500-700 hours. BF2 and Oblivion are the only games I invested that much time in.

I knew it was time to quit though when just about every server I played on people would get pissed and accuse me of cheating because I would finish 1 or 2 everytime. To be honest, I just tried to help my team win every round, whatever class that meant, general if need be.

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
The people that thought BF2 was crappy were either expecting something different than it actually was or they sucked at adapting to what BF2 offered. The only people I know who hate BF2 are the people who are too lazy to learn how to get good at it.

no, BF2 was a shit game that never left beta status.

lol. Its hilarious to read all those BF2 haters and their reasoning behind hating it so so much. It always tends to be the same answer, much like everyone with bad arguments.

1. Game is buggy!, glitchy!, beta stage!. </whine>

Yes, there are various buggs that can and will happen in the game. I experience it a number of times, but its not a game stopper or a round killer. Actually, I take it back, it is a possible round killer when a flag can't be captured for whatever reason. Or if a hacker comes in and lags the place to death with unlimited jeeps being deployed. but guess what, thats probably because of a cheap server who hasn't restarted their game server for over 3 weeks or no real admin kicking these people out. Find a better managed server and you'll hardly see hackers or as many glitches. In general, the game runs smooth round in and round out.

2. The HIT BOX THE HIT BOX! </whine>

Probably the most annoying excuse I constantly hear. So you were aiming down the barrel of the gun, shooting like crazy and you didn't manage to kill your opponent. You probably don't know how to use the gun? Its not a simply point and shoot you know. Each weapon has various factors involved from range, to recoil, to bullet dispersement... hell, you were probably just hitting armor. Did you know that some kits give you heavy armor, light? Combined that with the way you are shooting and with your own armor,.... yea, its no wonder you shot like crazy, died and complained it was bad hitbox coding. You will not win every encounter you face. Its not always balanced and there are always advantages/disadvanages throughout the games senario's.

3. Too many patches! Can't keep up! Crash to desktop always, blue screen!</whine>

Only 1 patch you'll ever need for now, 1.41. Install the game, let it patch it for you, restart, install 1.41, restart, boom you are ready to go. Do you constantly crash? Then clean your fucken computer! I've had situations where it would close or crash to desktop, deleting all those background running programs and updating drivers tends to help... if you still have problems, you probably built a messed up computer.

I can go on but whats the point. Those that hate BF2 generally fall under the same categories of excuses. Lets face it, the game isn't for you. Go back to COD or WoW, whatever is easier.

 

[bf1942]

Simply put

BF2 is as fun as you are good.

You kill you like,

You die you cry.


There is a lot of variety in the maps and special server rules for everyone to have fun,

those who did not like in the past , please try again, and squad up with some friends.

 

[Shargrath]

Havent been interested in any BF game since BF2....

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: DannyLove

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
The people that thought BF2 was crappy were either expecting something different than it actually was or they sucked at adapting to what BF2 offered. The only people I know who hate BF2 are the people who are too lazy to learn how to get good at it.

no, BF2 was a shit game that never left beta status.

lol. Its hilarious to read all those BF2 haters and their reasoning behind hating it so so much. It always tends to be the same answer, much like everyone with bad arguments.

1. Game is buggy!, glitchy!, beta stage!. </whine>

Yes, there are various buggs that can and will happen in the game. I experience it a number of times, but its not a game stopper or a round killer. Actually, I take it back, it is a possible round killer when a flag can't be captured for whatever reason. Or if a hacker comes in and lags the place to death with unlimited jeeps being deployed. but guess what, thats probably because of a cheap server who hasn't restarted their game server for over 3 weeks or no real admin kicking these people out. Find a better managed server and you'll hardly see hackers or as many glitches. In general, the game runs smooth round in and round out.

2. The HIT BOX THE HIT BOX! </whine>

Probably the most annoying excuse I constantly hear. So you were aiming down the barrel of the gun, shooting like crazy and you didn't manage to kill your opponent. You probably don't know how to use the gun? Its not a simply point and shoot you know. Each weapon has various factors involved from range, to recoil, to bullet dispersement... hell, you were probably just hitting armor. Did you know that some kits give you heavy armor, light? Combined that with the way you are shooting and with your own armor,.... yea, its no wonder you shot like crazy, died and complained it was bad hitbox coding. You will not win every encounter you face. Its not always balanced and there are always advantages/disadvanages throughout the games senario's.

3. Too many patches! Can't keep up! Crash to desktop always, blue screen!</whine>

Only 1 patch you'll ever need for now, 1.41. Install the game, let it patch it for you, restart, install 1.41, restart, boom you are ready to go. Do you constantly crash? Then clean your fucken computer! I've had situations where it would close or crash to desktop, deleting all those background running programs and updating drivers tends to help... if you still have problems, you probably built a messed up computer.

I can go on but whats the point. Those that hate BF2 generally fall under the same categories of excuses. Lets face it, the game isn't for you. Go back to COD or WoW, whatever is easier.

yeah

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: bf1942
Simply put

BF2 is as fun as you are good.

the air units were terrible unbalanced....but other than the original bf42 air units haven't done well all around.

 

[minmaster]

BF2 sucks. it's just a bunch of dolphin divers/insta proners or get air raped. the only people who enjoy are air whores and prone spammers.

2142 is the real deal. people never gave it a chance because of the futuristic setting, but it was a more balanced game. however i can't recommend 2142 right now due to MP servers crashing half the time.

 

[RallyMaster]

Actually, I enjoy playing infantry most and I dominate as infantry. I just use transport vehicles to get me places and don't really do much else. The real battle is always fought on the ground IMO.

 

[CountZero]

Originally posted by: bf1942
Simply put

BF2 is as fun as you are good.

You kill you like,

You die you cry.


There is a lot of variety in the maps and special server rules for everyone to have fun,

those who did not like in the past , please try again, and squad up with some friends.

This is a poor argument for any game.

People that are good are probably people that play the game more. If you don't like a game why would you keep playing until you are good?

So yes people that like the game are good and people don't like the game suck but you'd have to be a moron to keep playing a game you don't like.

 

[DannyLove]

Originally posted by: minmaster
BF2 sucks. it's just a bunch of dolphin divers/insta proners or get air raped. the only people who enjoy are air whores and prone spammers.

2142 is the real deal. people never gave it a chance because of the futuristic setting, but it was a more balanced game. however i can't recommend 2142 right now due to MP servers crashing half the time.

LOL. I'm done with this topic. gg

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My thoughts are that PC gamers got screwed by having to wait 2 months more than console gamers.

Dance with the one who brought you.

console port? :/

Yeah, except BF got its start on the PC. But yeah, Im sure its a port to the PC, like all BF games will be now.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
My thoughts are that PC gamers got screwed by having to wait 2 months more than console gamers.

Dance with the one who brought you.

It's unfortunate in this case that the one who brought you is stealing everything out of your purse while you're in the restroom freshening up.

This delay coming to PC for a lot of games has 100% to do with the real and perceived piracy rates on the PC. Dice will tell you all day that it's due to some sort of "hardware issues". Please. The game is already on the PC, it's called BF1942, I'd take wagers that they had the PC version done long before the other 2 versions were finalized.

You can argue the merits of holding back releases on the PC to stop piracy all day long, but the fact is, they are selling a crapload of copies of BF1943 on XBL and PSN, which to my knowledge are piracy-free, and when it comes to the PC, you can bet within a day a million people will have downloaded it off of usenet and torrent sites for free.

I think more PC devs need to take the route Blizzard is taking with Starcraft 2, get rid of the LAN play option altogether, and tether BF1943 to a service like Steam to make it more worthwhile to buy the game for $15 than to spend half an hour trying to locate some server through Hamachi that you can play on.

The answers to saving PC gaming are out there, are least for multiplayer games, they just need to be utilized. No option for LAN play does suck, but what sucks more is having games that originated on the PC and thrived there at one point end up exclusively on consoles because of people feel like it's not as important to buy a game on the PC as on a console.

 

[NoSoup4You]

BF1943 is a re-skin of Battlefield: Bad Company. It uses the Frostbite engine from Bad Company and therefore has destructible environments. Don't like that the enemy is hiding in a building? Blast it with your anti-tank gun or a well placed grenade... he won't be able to hide anymore. Hah!

Bad Company was fantastic. I loved BF2 and 2142 (laugh at the haters there too), but Bad Company was better than all of them. It's big downfall was not being for the PC and the small player limits. But the battles were more focused and well balanced. No overpowering vehicles, no overpowering weapons or kits. Everything had a purpose. No inane grenade spamming. Just good, clean fun.

BF1943 is more of the same, but with some glaring issues. The animations are awful. I mean, how on earth did they think this was a good idea... I assume this was necessary for whatever reason, but the players move like wooden soldiers. This is awful, and the character models are terrible as well. I know it's $15 but it's really glaring in contrast to Bad Company, which had excellent visuals and animations. I'm not sure I can get past this issue, so I definitely do not see 1943 as a game that I'll be playing for awhile.

There are some good things - the planes are a lot of fun to pilot. And they don't seem to be dominating infantry although that might change as more and more pilots hone their skills. The infantry classes are very basic this time around, again it's $15 but I'm a little surprised they went to this extreme. Three kits, one with a bolt action rifle, one a submachine gun, one a sniper rifle. That's it! The samurai sword for the Japanese sniper though is very sweet!

I don't know, the game did wow me at first because it looked great and I was excited about it. But I just don't see it as being a better alternative to Bad Company, so we'll see just how far this lasts. This game doesn't hit you over the head with it's "WW2-ness". It's not trying to glorify the era or any of that - ala Call of Duty. Too much of that can make you sick of it real quick. This is a very basic, stripped down version of Bad Company set in WW2 without any frills.

But for $15, how on earth could I complain... Microsoft charges $10 for three piddly map packs for Halo 3! Now that's something to complain about. Overall, I'd say 1943 is decent and worth the investment because I'll have fun with it for awhile but then likely shelf it permanently.