Battlefield 3 64 Players on PC only and Jets confirmed

[NikolaeVarius]

I love battlefield. I got so damn good at the damn jets I could fly through the damn pipes at kubra dam,

 

[Nebor]

I agree, if they don't fix jets, I will slash my wrists to ribbons.

Jets are unstoppable by 98% of players. I have NO idea how to kill them, and have only seen them shot down when flown by amateurs.

 

[Demo24]

I could never fly the jets in BF2, just too fast for me. Course I didn't have a joystick so that may have helped. I preferred to simply hop in the gunners seat and let someone else pilot, generally prefer this for most vehicles actually. I was pretty good with the heli's in BF2 though. My personal triumph was doing a backflip in a blackhawk.

And I don't really remember jet rape in BF2. It happened on occasion, but I generally never had too much trouble with them. Perhaps it's simply been too long since I've played it.

 

[amddude]

For you jet haters there are these other great titles:
cs
bc2
cod4
mw
mw2

and the list goes on

The air vehicles are one of the great things about the bf2 (in spirit?) series. If you can't shoot them down you are fail. It can easily be done with the multitude of AA bf2 offers (lets not forget the AA armor either...). Air alone does not guarantee any victory either.

 

[zerocool84]

For you jet haters there are these other great titles:
cs
bc2
cod4
mw
mw2

and the list goes on

The air vehicles are one of the great things about the bf2 (in spirit?) series. If you can't shoot them down you are fail. It can easily be done with the multitude of AA bf2 offers (lets not forget the AA armor either...). Air alone does not guarantee any victory either.

I played around 200 hours of BF2 and Jets are extremely overpowered. We've already had threads on this so I don't need to explain it again.

 

[Genx87]

lol, 64 players with jetpacks?? That'd be amusing.

Be like Tribes from 1999.

 

[amddude]

I played around 200 hours of BF2 and Jets are extremely overpowered. We've already had threads on this so I don't need to explain it again.

I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I insist that jets cannot win the battle for you. Btw I'm over 370 hours so I have at least a measure of experience on this topic.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I insist that jets cannot win the battle for you. Btw I'm over 370 hours so I have at least a measure of experience on this topic.

They can pretty much win it for you. I have over 1500+ hours playing BF2 and another 1000+ admining several BF2 servers. A good pilot can keep the other team's jets/helo's/armor down making it easy for the team to hold onto the flags. We have folks in our group who could go 150-0 on Wake Island. It's the reason Infantry Only mode came out and became quite popular.

After one patch, they did make AA able to lock and take down jets but people whined and it was taken away.

 

[Capt Caveman]

For you jet haters there are these other great titles:
cs
bc2
cod4
mw
mw2

and the list goes on

The air vehicles are one of the great things about the bf2 (in spirit?) series. If you can't shoot them down you are fail. It can easily be done with the multitude of AA bf2 offers (lets not forget the AA armor either...). Air alone does not guarantee any victory either.

Air Vehicles are too overpowering and unless you're one of the pilots/gunners, it can be absolutely zero fun for the ground pounders and empty a server.

Add all of the idiots that will wait/tk one another for the jets, it forces folks to have to find a well-admin'd server to remove the asshats.

One of our members shopped this to illustrate the point:

If they can nerf the air vehicles some, it would make the game more pleasurable for everyone and make it more challenging for the jet whores. Possibly, making it easier to lock/take down jets, longer rearming times, forcing jets to land to reload, etc...

 

[jlee]

Really the lack of prone backfired on them in BC2. All it did was make it so you had no cover from snipers because you couldn't duck behind anything. If you're even a mediocre FPS player you know that you don't have to worry about the snipers who are laying down on the edges of the maps. It's the guys that are competent at drag shots that rush with snipers that are going to give you more trouble.

I do get a lot of satisfaction by circling the map and knifing the guys that are hiding on the edge, though..(BC2, BF2 maps were huge)

My experience with the BC2 maps is that snipers on the edge can put a hurting on a team since the maps aren't all that big. I don't remember that being as much of an issue with BF2, so hopefully it won't be an issue here either.

I am really looking forward to destructible buildings with large maps...that's going to be fun. AA for helicopters will be nice too. I think I'd rather deal with hard-to-take-out jets vs impossible-to-kill helicopters.

 

[power_hour]

This is going to be fun. Hope they can throw in more advanced tech like radar jamming and satellite warfare.

I do think Jets need to be nerfed i.e. limited ammo, fuel and find a way to reduce the lineups for said vehicles.

I always thought they should put these jets behind locked hangars with key passes dropped by looting opponent corpses or something that reduces lineups and fighting over them.

But I am very pumped for this. Always enjoyed myself.

 

[minmaster]

jets are going to be nerfed for sure. they want to reach the masses and they will do their best to balance things. BF2 airpower will be a thing of the past.

 

[Sureshot324]

This is going to be fun. Hope they can throw in more advanced tech like radar jamming and satellite warfare.

I do think Jets need to be nerfed i.e. limited ammo, fuel and find a way to reduce the lineups for said vehicles.

I always thought they should put these jets behind locked hangars with key passes dropped by looting opponent corpses or something that reduces lineups and fighting over them.

But I am very pumped for this. Always enjoyed myself.

That's actually a really good idea, not just for jets but all the vehicles. They could even implement a currency system, kinda like counterstrike, where you have to earn points as infantry and then spend them on things like vehicles.

 

[jlee]

This is going to be fun. Hope they can throw in more advanced tech like radar jamming and satellite warfare.

I do think Jets need to be nerfed i.e. limited ammo, fuel and find a way to reduce the lineups for said vehicles.

I always thought they should put these jets behind locked hangars with key passes dropped by looting opponent corpses or something that reduces lineups and fighting over them.

But I am very pumped for this. Always enjoyed myself.

Maybe a minimum respawn of 30 or 60 seconds if you were in a jet or attack helicopter immediately prior to death (wouldn't be fair for transport helos unless you were on a minigun), and no instant respawn of aircraft. I don't remember how it was in BF2, but BC2 seems to almost instantly respawn a helicopter once it gets destroyed. Also maybe a ticket penalty if you lose a jet..i.e. 5 tickets instead of it being free?

 

[zerocool84]

jets are going to be nerfed for sure. they want to reach the masses and they will do their best to balance things. BF2 airpower will be a thing of the past.

I don't mind airpower at all and it's fun as hell but Jets are just insanely over powered. Man-portable AA and harder to reload bombs would take care of that easily.

 

[jlee]

I don't mind airpower at all and it's fun as hell but Jets are just insanely over powered. Man-portable AA and harder to reload bombs would take care of that easily.

Forcing landing to rearm (and taking a little while..not 3 seconds) would definitely help a lot.

 

[Markbnj]

jets are going to be nerfed for sure. they want to reach the masses and they will do their best to balance things. BF2 airpower will be a thing of the past.

I don't know, they haven't gotten it right in any of their games so far. I agree with whoever said that air doesn't usually win the game, but that's not the point. These games need to be fun for both sides, and it isn't fun when you effectively can't fight back. It would be fine if your air would fight their air, but pilots get a lot more kills targeting ground units than they do chasing each other around the map.

If it were up to me... no jets. Attack choppers yes, but much more vulnerable to ground fire, .50's especially. Hueys and Blackhawks scaled back to a transport role, with high defenses but much less damage ability. All aircraft would have to land and come to a stop to rearm.

 

[BladeVenom]

The air vehicles are one of the great things about the bf2 (in spirit?) series. If you can't shoot them down you are fail. It can easily be done with the multitude of AA bf2 offers (lets not forget the AA armor either...).

You regularly get taken out by AA missiles? Then you are fail. Do your teammates a favor and give up flying.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I'm VERY excited about having a co-op campaign as well!

 

[callaway86]

As everyone knows, the Jets in BF2 had a much further view distance than the lock-on range of the AA. This made the AA useless as it was out-ranged every time by a decent pilot. Any who says otherwise must have been playing POE where they actually balanced Air.

 

[Thor86]

Yeah jets own maps, especially when there are 4 good pilots on one team (when they steal both of your team's jets), and no one on your team knows how to use AAs, mobile AAs. When this happens I just hide in a non-destructable building. Oh wait, now buildings will be destructible in BF3. Shit.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yeah jets own maps, especially when there are 4 good pilots on one team (when they steal both of your team's jets), and no one on your team knows how to use AAs, mobile AAs. When this happens I just hide in a non-destructable building. Oh wait, now buildings will be destructible in BF3. Shit.

Yeah, I either just don't spawn and wait for the round to end or just rage-quit.

 

[Blunc]

I wonder if they will penalize "C4-ramming", this is a waste of a vehicle that would not be tolerated in most armed forces.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

There are times that you need to C4 ram. Unfortunately with the ability to repair armor so easy, it all becomes part of the game balance. However, they could possibly extend the blast radius of C4 so that it is impossible to survive a c4 ram, in BF2 right now you can fairly easily bail out in time to survive.

 

[sleep]

I can't wait for this to come out.