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moonbogg

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I wish they would do a larger SP campaign. I really enjoyed BF1 single player but it was too short.

Yeah, they could have made it longer but must have decided they want people to finish the campaign a little bit quikah.

lol I'm so sorry omg. I wasn't physically capable of resisting that joke. Oh my god so powerless.

Regarding the game, at first I was like, "What the hell is this WOMAN doing in my WWII game!! Get out WOMAN!! GET OUT!!!!"

But now I don't care. I actually like the silliness of it. Its really funny actually, almost like having a silly clown run around on the battlefield fighting Germans and stuff, lol. Like, so unrealistic but funny, so its cool. Just give me a great looking, colorful and fun WWII game to play with great Battlefield mechanics with some new stuff brought to the table such as building fortifications and such, and I'm all in. Looking forward to it.
Wondering about GPU performance in this game though. Game should release around same time as GTX1180Ti perhaps. That would be nice. I think CPU requirements should be about the same as BF1.
 
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GoodRevrnd

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The more I watch the trailer the more fun it looks. The trailer is quite short though and doesn't have much gameplay in it. E3 is where we should see some more.
Fun is found in core mechanics, not gimmicks. I know it's an exciting action trailer, but it does sum up fairly well what's gone wrong with BF over the years. They've been chasing CoD ADD so long that too much of the gameplay is just meaningless action spam where the player doesn't feel like they can make any real impact. Close together cap points, squad spawning off everyone, doritos, health regen, short respawns, etc. etc. All these things constantly give the player something to shoot at, but there's no weight to any of it.

Compare to 1942. El Alamein, bombing down to the southern point in a jeep w/ your squad, praying you don't run into a tank in the flats, diving into the cap point to overwhelm the defenders and flip the flag before reinforcements respond. Defending the northern point, holding the flag grey after a tank and enemy squad wiped your crew... just you and the tank left, who can't get an angle on you, while you frantically hold out waiting for reinforcements.

The older games 1942/DC/BF2/2142 had a rock/paper/scissors aspect to the flow of combat, while everything since then has been paced like a blender. All the tension is gone because it's all action all the time. And frankly, the soaring popularity of the battle royale genre proves they have the formula wrong. Those games are loaded with dead time punctuated with intense high stakes action. Battlefield needs to look back to its roots and consider the innovation that actually made it Battlefield instead of designing games around making trailers look good. And it's a real shame, because Frostbyte is hands down the best FPS engine out there.
 

DeadFred

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Calling people who prefer some semblance of history in their games snowflakes is as about as backwards as you can get. The snowflakes are those that demand history be rewritten or changed to suit their present twisted agendas. I'm still playing BF1 even though it's historically whacked too, but I'm going to have to see more of V before making a purchasing decision.
 
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namx01

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So now you can’t shoot downed enemies. This is getting better by the minute. Can’t wait to see what other great feature is announced next.
 

MrSquished

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Calling people who prefer some semblance of history in their games snowflakes is as about as backwards as you can get. The snowflakes are those that demand history be rewritten or changed to suit their present twisted agendas. I'm still playing BF1 even though it's historically whacked too, but I'm going to have to see more of V before making a purchasing decision.

There were 350,000 US African-American soldiers in WW1, and more on sides like the French and Canadians. So I got over the black guy in BF1 real fast. Then I kept thinking to myself, this is a video game with 3 guys on a horse shooting flamethrowers. You do so many unrealistic things in BF games anyway. These fucking snowflakes are just that. White males scared of their place in history based off of entertainment. It's sad. Life is way too short to be so fucking uptight about these things IMO. What you need to be historically accurate are history books and textbooks - not a video game product designed to entertain, not explicitly teach.
 
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DeadFred

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You seem to get very upset when anyone disagrees with you, and now you have injected race into the conversation when nothing of the sort had been mentioned, (by me at least). There are plenty of historical inaccuracies in BF1 besides every sniper in the German army being a black man. So I'd say you are being a textbook example of a snowflake, so take your own advice and calm down because life is too short.

PS- I've never seen more than one person on a horse in BF1 and never anyone with flamethower on horseback.
 
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MrSquished

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You seem to get very upset when anyone disagrees with you, and now you have injected race into the conversation when nothing of the sort had been mentioned, (by me at least). There are plenty of historical inaccuracies in BF1 besides every sniper in the German army being a black man. So I'd say you are being a textbook example of a snowflake, so take your own advice and calm down because life is too short.

PS- I've never seen more than one person on a horse in BF1 and never anyone with flamethower on horseback.

Well after reading about the reaction to BFV I discovered the #notmybattlefield movement is not just new to this game because of the female characters now, but also because of the african-americans in BF1. So these are the same dudes complaining pretty much. Perhaps you live in a bubble, with snowflakes falling all around you

Here's 2 guys on a horse with a flamethrower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n566OhR4YsI

The 3 guys on a horse and a flamethrower was from an article I read, and had a picture. I presume it may have been from promo for BF1
 

DeadFred

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A flametrooper jumping on the back of a horse with another rider......gotta say Ive never seen that in game and Ive played it A LOT.

My biggest historical gripe is all the full auto weapons, so wrong for that era. Although I have to agree with those dudes that all the black characters in BF1 and the women as represented in the V trailer is totally ridiculous, but that wasn't and wont be the major determining factor for me buying the games. And I hardly live in a bubble/snow globe, while I may not be totally up on all the gaming world news I am all too well aware of all the lunacy going on out in the real world.

#notmybattlefield......is that for real? LOL That's every bit as dumb as the #notmypresident resisters. If it is as you say then there may very well be some snowflakes out there on the issue, but Im not really getting that vibe from the people posting in here. They seem to just be annoyed by the snowflakyness of DICE's decision to recreate history as they see fit.
 

MrSquished

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On the plus side, I just discovered Post Scriptum to replace my Battlefield.

Looks like an interesting game but I wouldn't even put it as the same style as the recent BF's. If people like the pace of a Post Scriptum (from watching gameplay vids for 30 minutes) and don't like BF games, it's because of style. They should be in different categories practically. Y'all been playing the wrong game this whole time. I need more action faster, not quite COD level but faster than that. If I had a squad of good players to play PS with then that would be pretty cool. But that's another story.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Post Sciptum looks fun, but you're right it's not quite the style I want from BF. Just friggin modernize BF2 gameplay. PS2 had the same problem modern BF does where it just feels like you're in a meat grinder and can't accomplish anything.
 
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clamum

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I wasn't sure what to think of the trailer (I honestly though the sequence and graphics were fairly awesome, but I'm not so keen on what seems to be a decent disregard for realism with that whack-ass metal arm lady) but rather than writing pages of criticisms on a game that NO ONE (besides the devs) knows basically ANYTHING about, I'll just wait until the damn thing comes out and I can see a decent amount of gameplay videos.
 
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Well after reading about the reaction to BFV I discovered the #notmybattlefield movement is not just new to this game because of the female characters now, but also because of the african-americans in BF1. So these are the same dudes complaining pretty much. Perhaps you live in a bubble, with snowflakes falling all around you

Here's 2 guys on a horse with a flamethrower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n566OhR4YsI

The 3 guys on a horse and a flamethrower was from an article I read, and had a picture. I presume it may have been from promo for BF1

Ugh that auto health regeneration

But that looks like old school battlefield fun. Using something unexpected.
Personally I could care less about historical accuracy. I do hate how all shooters currently focus on get you in the fight fast.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Ugh that auto health regeneration

But that looks like old school battlefield fun. Using something unexpected.
Personally I could care less about historical accuracy. I do hate how all shooters currently focus on get you in the fight fast.

I don't have a link handy, and I may be mixing the details up slightly until I can find and re-read it, but there was an interview where they said that 3d spot, health regen and other things of that nature are apparently going to be toned back. I forget what they said about 3D spot but apparently health regen will only work partially.

Anyway, if this is what it sounds like, it's been a long time coming for Battlefield to scale back the casualizations. Actually, the hypercasualizations I should say, because I'm certainly not looking for Battlefield to be like ArmA -
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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I don't have a link handy, and I may be mixing the details up slightly until I can find and re-read it, but there was an interview where they said that 3d spot, health regen and other things of that nature are apparently going to be toned back. I forget what they said about 3D spot but apparently health regen will only work partially.

Anyway, if this is what it sounds like, it's been a long time coming for Battlefield to scale back the casualizations. Actually, the hypercasualizations I should say, because I'm certainly not looking for Battlefield to be like ArmA -

Yah it's something like depending how much health you lose, it will only regenerate up to a certain level that which are all beneath 100%. Also squad mates can revive you, even if they aren't a medic, but not to full health. Only medics will be able to revive you to full health.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
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I don't have a link handy, and I may be mixing the details up slightly until I can find and re-read it, but there was an interview where they said that 3d spot, health regen and other things of that nature are apparently going to be toned back. I forget what they said about 3D spot but apparently health regen will only work partially.

Anyway, if this is what it sounds like, it's been a long time coming for Battlefield to scale back the casualizations. Actually, the hypercasualizations I should say, because I'm certainly not looking for Battlefield to be like ArmA -
JackFrags did a review of what they said and what to expect.
 

Midwayman

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Yah it's something like depending how much health you lose, it will only regenerate up to a certain level that which are all beneath 100%. Also squad mates can revive you, even if they aren't a medic, but not to full health. Only medics will be able to revive you to full health.

Thank god. Auto heal on infantry and vehicles killed reasons to have to cooperation. Partial heal seems like an okay compromise. Still gives medics a reason for being.

I hope 3d spotting is dead. It really killed a lot stuff in BF1. They had this beautiful weather and atmospheric effects and then people spent all game shooting at hud markers. So stupid.
 
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MrSquished

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Interesting stuff all around.

Being a medic I'm going to have to check out this new revive animation and see how vulnerable it makes me and see how much reviving I'll actually be doing.

But definitely can't wait to check it out
 

maevinj

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Interesting stuff all around.

Being a medic I'm going to have to check out this new revive animation and see how vulnerable it makes me and see how much reviving I'll actually be doing.

But definitely can't wait to check it out
There is going to be a "dragging" mechanism as well, so you can drag somebody out of the line of fire to revive/heal them.
 

tygeezy

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I have to say that I like a lot of the new game-play additions and subtractions they have made. Anything to get the game more team oriented is a win.
 

Ackmed

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I don't care that a woman is on the cover. Or that it is not very historically accurate. BF has gone to great lengths before for accuracy, but I don't see where they have to. Its pretty clear they're trying to include everyone with the last two covers.

Looked at pre-ordering, and the only difference between the $60 and $80 version appears to be skins and wallpaper? I don't care about either.
 
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