Battlestar Galactica: waste of time

[Bryf50]

You have to admit the final battle was pretty awesome though.

 

[djheater]

Reminds me of one of my favorite Fark headlines of all time, from when they were building towards the "ending".

Rocketing towards their journey's final conclusion, but with no end as yet in sight, Battlestar Galactica reveals more holes - in the plot, in the ship, in Sam's head, and the biggest one: Admiral Adama's gaping mangina
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[ViRGE]

BSG was an excellent miniseries. It's a shame they never made a full TV series out of it.

 

[ichy]

BSG was great for the first two seasons, but stopped being worthwhile after that. I wish I'd stopped watching after Season 2.

 

[totalnoob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcUE_r0VGqY

Musical genius came out of Season 4. Nothing else really mattered.

Also, I did not mind ending, nor care too much for. Because I've forgotten how it ended by now.

It ended like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTN-16q1WB4

I agree the music is badass..some of the best ever.

 

[Crono]

It wasn't the ending that bothered me. Actually, I think the ending was a relief after the excess of soap opera drama and filler episodes that plagued season 3 and 4.

I don't mind drama, but what made BSG great at the beginning was the blend of action and drama. When they were running from the Cylons and there were space battles every now and again, it was a good series.

 

[Modelworks]

Heroes wasn't supposed to end that way but was canceled, NBC supposedly is working on a 2 hour tv movie that wraps it all up. The lost ending was okay, not great. BSG was a mess in the last season. That is what happens to shows that are written as they go along without any clear laid out storyline.

Now before watching a series that has a storyline that goes on week to week I read up on it to see if it is planned out or if it is just week to week.

I was worried about supernatural, this last season had been planned to be the last season in the original storyline. One of the few times I can recall a show being extended because of demand beyond the original planned story arc. It seems the writers though have some good stories planned for this season that should be fun.

 

[Rubycon]

What is this Battlestar Galactica you speak of?

Is it something new or a compilation of the 1978 (debuting) TV series?

 

[AstroManLuca]

BSG was an excellent miniseries. It's a shame they never made a full TV series out of it.

What are you talking about? It was a great TV series. It's a shame it got canceled after 2 seasons and they were never able to wrap it up... :sneaky:

PS as far as good sci-fi endings are concerned I'd have to put DS9 way up near the top. I'm not sure what the problem was with the finale of TNG, I thought it was just fine.

Babylon 5 I watched so long ago that I only vaguely remember what happened during season 5. If I recall, JMS thought the show was getting canceled so he compressed his original idea of what would happen in seasons 4 and 5 into just season 4, then at the very last minute it was un-canceled and he had to come up with something new to fill out that last season. I think it was an excellent idea for him to come up with the entire story arc ahead of time - caused problems when the show almost got cut short but on the other hand it prevented the blatant ass-pulling that happened with BSG.

 

[crownjules]

BSG was great for the first two seasons, but stopped being worthwhile after that. I wish I'd stopped watching after Season 2.

Exactly. I still watched until the end. The first two seasons were focused on how 50K humans, all that's left of humanity, are going to survive when they're on a couple dozen ships, protected by one military ship, and being hunted down by machines with eradication on their mind. And all the troubles that situation entails. And they did it really well.

Then they dove into the deep end of spirituality, religion, etc. and the whole show jumped the shark. It became less sci-fi and more fantasy.

 

[silverpig]

Heroes wasn't supposed to end that way but was canceled, NBC supposedly is working on a 2 hour tv movie that wraps it all up. The lost ending was okay, not great. BSG was a mess in the last season. That is what happens to shows that are written as they go along without any clear laid out storyline.

Now before watching a series that has a storyline that goes on week to week I read up on it to see if it is planned out or if it is just week to week.

I was worried about supernatural, this last season had been planned to be the last season in the original storyline. One of the few times I can recall a show being extended because of demand beyond the original planned story arc. It seems the writers though have some good stories planned for this season that should be fun.

BSG would have been fine if SciFi (or SyFy) had made a commitment to them to finish the series in a certain amount of time. AFAIK, BSG was nearly cancelled several times, then given a half season at a time. The writers were hoping for 1-2 full seasons of commitment so they could write the end of the show, and when the network came back with "you've got 7 more episodes", they wrote filler crap until they got another extension. They didn't want to end the series in a 7-episode rush and then find out they had another full season to go.

Definitely the network's fault on that one, not the writers'.

The B5 story is the same as everyone says. I thought the 4th season was fantastic. It was action packed and I felt it could have gone a little slower, but certainly didn't knock it. The 5th season was like watching Usain Bolt jog the track after winning the gold medal... it's already over, but it's still him running.

 

[techs]

You have to admit the final battle was pretty awesome though.

Even more so in HD. There's a lot of detail you can't see, even in cable 1080i compressed.


The WORST ending for any series was Stargate:Atlantis. The original SG-1 was a band of heroes who destroy the Goauld and free the galaxy. Then they defeat the Replicators and the Ori.

Stargate:Atlantis? We go to the Pegasus galaxy and awaken the wraith early threatening civilizations that have endured the wraith culling for centuries because the wraith can not afford to leave some humans to rebuild for future cullings. Then we develope the Hoffan drug. Which Michael, who we also made, used to kill off half the humans he gave it to. We let the Wraith know about zpm's, giving them a huge weapon if they can find more. We turned on the Atero device, destroying a settlement of the most advance humans in Pegasus. Oh, and we helped the Genii to make A-bombs which they could use to subjugate humans in Pegasus if the wraith are somehow destroyed.

Then we took Atlantis and ran back to our galaxy.

A sad, sorry end to a great franchise.

 

[Homerboy]

You know who got screwed more with the ending of BSG than you? Apollo. That poor bastard lost EVERYONE. Even when he thought "whoah I finally made it to earth, with my dad, and the girl I really have been destined to be with my whole life... " BLAM! Dad leaves him and Starbuck ends up to be some Angel or something and leaves him. he gets left behind with the neandrthals.... not to mention he had to wear that fat suit during the course of the story. Do you remember the fat suit? Horrible.

That being said, I was fine with the ending. They did what they could.

 

[darkxshade]

The WORST ending for any series was Stargate:Atlantis...

You're just focusing on all the negatives... you gotta look at the bright side too, they made a couple new friends with Ronin and Telya. Was that not worth it?

 

[Nintendesert]

Again though, Stargate Atlantis was cancelled due to the focus on Stargate Universe. So the show wasn't able to wrap up its story arcs like it should have. They did all they could with what little time they were afforded. The show overall wasn't that bad and had some interesting characters and stories.

 

[SillyOReilly]

Star Trek:TNG had a crappy ending

Wow.

And no.

 

[SillyOReilly]

even if it was redundant at times.

Every season was the same. I guess you can call 24 redundant.

 

[PottedMeat]

You know who got screwed more with the ending of BSG than you? Apollo. That poor bastard lost EVERYONE. Even when he thought "whoah I finally made it to earth, with my dad, and the girl I really have been destined to be with my whole life... " BLAM! Dad leaves him and Starbuck ends up to be some Angel or something and leaves him. he gets left behind with the neandrthals.... not to mention he had to wear that fat suit during the course of the story. Do you remember the fat suit? Horrible.

That being said, I was fine with the ending. They did what they could.

Haha, Apollo really did get screwed. Baltar got to betray humanity, become president, screw anyone he wanted, have a harem, and in the end gets away with really no consequences.


Yeah I was okay with the ending too. The writers not knowing if they're going to get another season all the time and any story will get like that.

 

[HumblePie]

who the hell watches tv? I just stare at paint congealing all day long. Now that's drama for you!

j/k

Side note, I haven't really watched that much TV. I watched 4 episodes of LOST and thought it was junk. I watched the first episode of 24 and also thought it was crap. I managed to get through the first season of Heroes, barely and wouldn't go beyond that. Seriously, most TV series today are barely entertaining. I guess that's why I either play video games, or go outside, or play sports, or have a few drinks at my local watering hole.

 

[lupi]

Even more so in HD. There's a lot of detail you can't see, even in cable 1080i compressed.


The WORST ending for any series was Stargate:Atlantis. The original SG-1 was a band of heroes who destroy the Goauld and free the galaxy. Then they defeat the Replicators and the Ori.

Stargate:Atlantis? We go to the Pegasus galaxy and awaken the wraith early threatening civilizations that have endured the wraith culling for centuries because the wraith can not afford to leave some humans to rebuild for future cullings. Then we develope the Hoffan drug. Which Michael, who we also made, used to kill off half the humans he gave it to. We let the Wraith know about zpm's, giving them a huge weapon if they can find more. We turned on the Atero device, destroying a settlement of the most advance humans in Pegasus. Oh, and we helped the Genii to make A-bombs which they could use to subjugate humans in Pegasus if the wraith are somehow destroyed.

Then we took Atlantis and ran back to our galaxy.

A sad, sorry end to a great franchise.

that's assuming you even call that an ending.

 

[ViRGE]

that's assuming you even call that an ending.

It is but it isn't. That wasn't supposed to be the series finale, Stargate: Extinction was. But the recession took a massive toll on MGM, and now they're so poor that they can't even afford to make a James Bond movie let alone a Stargate movie. So the final episode of SGA is the de facto ending, but not the de jure ending.

 

[lord_emperor]

Exactly. I still watched until the end. The first two seasons were focused on how 50K humans, all that's left of humanity, are going to survive when they're on a couple dozen ships, protected by one military ship, and being hunted down by machines with eradication on their mind. And all the troubles that situation entails. And they did it really well.

Then they dove into the deep end of spirituality, religion, etc. and the whole show jumped the shark. It became less sci-fi and more fantasy.

I agree with these words.

I tried to watch Battlestar Galactica 1978... it's not as awesome as I remember as a kid. Put me to sleep most nights.

 

[techs]

that's assuming you even call that an ending.

It is but it isn't. That wasn't supposed to be the series finale, Stargate: Extinction was. But the recession took a massive toll on MGM, and now they're so poor that they can't even afford to make a James Bond movie let alone a Stargate movie. So the final episode of SGA is the de facto ending, but not the de jure ending.

The whole MGM has no money story is a fail, in my book. Syfy is rolling in dough. If MGM needed the money they could have let Syfy make the movie. Considering the success of the SG1 movies Syfy would have jumped at the chance. MGM would have gotten some money without having to put any money up front. Syfy would have had the movie to keep the Stargate franchise alive and as good advertising for Stargate:Universe.

At this point, it is getting real doubtful they could assemble enough of the cast to make it look like the original Atlantis. So, by waiting MGM basically is losing the chance to make money off an Atlantis finale movie. Not good business for a company desperate for money.

 

[techs]

What is this Battlestar Galactica you speak of?

Is it something new or a compilation of the 1978 (debuting) TV series?

Off the medication again, are we?

 

[hans030390]

The finale wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it. I've read most of the big reviews, and I generally feel like people were bitching and making no sense with it. Most people think BSG is a Sci-Fi show...and it isn't. It's not even soft sci-fi. It's a drama set in a sci-fi environment. RDM even said this. Hell, they started going on about angels and god(s) right from the miniseries. People were so pissed about the whole "God did it" ending, or that Starbuck is an angel, but the show was like that the WHOLE series. If you don't think so, watch it again. Watching it a 2nd time definitely cleared up any misconceptions I had about it. It was much better than time around as well.

People were expecting something "better" because they thought they were watching something that they weren't. Now, not everyone falls under this category, but generally that's what I see.

Regarding the later episodes, though, I thought "The Oath" and "Blood on the Scales" were excellent and very intense. Episodes that were filler generally weren't as bad as some of the earlier filler episodes (I'm looking at you, "Black Market"). Then again, I was always a fan of the mythology, religion, and weirdness that happened in the show (ex: Kobol episodes, Eye of Jupiter, finding earth, etc.). They touched on that a lot more later in season 4, so I enjoyed it.