Well, considering that kabini at lower power beats piledriver with similar TDP, I could definitely see how this may be plausible.
What does that have to do with Bay Trail?
Bay Trail wouldn't crush the fastest ARM competition...
in this bench.
What bench and what ARM competition?
Is an 8 Core PD always faster than a 4 core i7? Answer: no.
So, in AnTuTu quad 2-wide out of order Silvermont cores will perform better than dual 4-wide out of order Haswell cores with hyper threading.
According to the following link, a Core i5-4200U clocked at 1600 MHz (2600 MHz Turbo Frequency) scores 54,861 in AnTuTu:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/samsung...d-core-i5-scores-over-54000-points/40677.html
Given the excellent scaling of the AnTuTu benchmark, a quad core Silvermont running at 1600 MHz will score over 63,000 points in AnTuTu rendering it 15% better than a Haswell i5-4200U.
The excellent scaling of the AnTuTu benchmark appears to be less than credible, but a quad core Silvermont running at 2100 MHz will score over 82,000 points in AnTuTu. This would render it 50% better than a Haswell i5-4200U (Tray price $287).
Interesting, but doesn't this look strange?
It's been proven many times that AnTuTu scores mean nothing anyway. It may be the same as the previous Atom scores and have an outstanding memory score while sucking at CPU.
It may be burst performance.
It may be reporting its speed wrong.
It may be the Intel compiler.
It may be a combination of all that.
NOTE: Some manufacturers promote they products for profits by using fake benchmarks. In fact, some users are unable to run official version of AnTuTu Benchmark on their devices for manufacturers have modified their products, thus the cheating behavior will not be discovered. These manufacturers passed the buck to AnTuTu, claimed that it is because of the incompatibility of AnTuTu Benchmark. AnTuTu make a solemn statement here that there is no compatibility problems on AnTuTu Benchmark. If AnTuTu Benchmark can not run on your device, or there is no readable words on the interface of AnTuTu Benchmark, and your device is made by Chinese manufacturer, then you should know this is cheating.
Is AnTuTu Benchmark accurate? It is hard to answer the questions regards to the accuracy. This can only judged by users themselves. The method is quite simple: If a new device's benchmark exceed more than 50% than equal class devices released at the same time, then the result is questionable.
AnTuTu's overall score is an aggregate of several tests, including graphics and storage ones. The CPU part scales very well with core count because they just replicate a very old single-threaded benchmark to every core. But the entire score obviously does not scale with CPU count or clock.
Intel's biggest challenge is not absolute performance, or even performance/watt. The engineers and scientists have delivered. Now it is up to the management and marketing department to price Silvermont right. As good as Silvermont is, if they demand too much of a premium over nearest ARM rival, most ODMs would pick ARM.
As we have seen the evolution of 'good enough' desktop, so we will see the rise of 'good enough' smartphones and tablets. And this transition to good-enough devices will happen quicker with mobile devices than with desktop. It might have already started.
So Intel's biggtest threat is not ARM or any of their licensees, but their own internal desire to jack up profit margin as high as possible.
Do you think Intel is dumb enough to price themselves out of this market, particularly when participation is so vital to their long term future?
It's really this simple:
Either Intel sells a Bay Trail chip for $30-$50 (whatever these chips go for), or they sell nothing. With PC sales waning, it's better to sell something profitably, than to sell nothing.
Do you think Intel is dumb enough to price themselves out of this market, particularly when participation is so vital to their long term future?
It's really this simple:
Either Intel sells a Bay Trail chip for $30-$50 (whatever these chips go for), or they sell nothing. With PC sales waning, it's better to sell something profitably, than to sell nothing.
Bay Trail wouldn't crush the fastest ARM competition...
in this bench.
Intel has ALWAYS rather sold nothing than sell something for less than 60% margins.
Something tells me this time isn't any different.
Really? Their >>average<< gross margin last quarter was 56%.
I'm talking about targets, not actuality.
It's a mentality thing.
What about TSX, today? Nobody will ever want optimistic lock bypassing with a Core CPU (RTM might be mostly friendly to many threads, but HLE should pretty much be a benefit to each thread at a time). If you might, that'll be another $800+ (a whole new notebook, for anyone wanting to counter with $400), and your current machine might reach a landfill quicker.I don't think Intel is that dumb.
I also don't think they're dumb enough to disable 64-bit on BayTrail-T or Merrifield, and AVX2 on Celeron or Pentium Haswells. If that's what ends up happening I won't have a very good explanation for why. Don't even ask me about TSX today
Considering that licensed ARM cores scale to a max of 4, that octo huawei is a big.little configuration.
What about TSX, today? Nobody will ever want optimistic lock bypassing with a Core CPU (RTM might be mostly friendly to many threads, but HLE should pretty much be a benefit to each thread at a time). If you might, that'll be another $800+ (a whole new notebook, for anyone wanting to counter with $400), and your current machine might reach a landfill quicker.
No, you are not talking about targets. In fact, it's almost thread crapping.
Intel runs a behemoth server business, and there target margins are sky high. At the same time, you can't get huge margins on Celeron or Atom, so target margins should be lower.
Considering that licensed ARM cores scale to a max of 4, that octo huawei is a big.little configuration.
But it is telling that you are so willing to jump to impossible conclusions to disprove a point.
Wow this is so exciting. Can't wait to put this in my phone and oc the crap out of it. Imagine the fps that fruit ninja will get.