What about something something like this?I see no path to voting rights. The country has kind of made our bed on that: Republicans appointed Republican justices who struck down southern voting rights. Eliminating the filibuster would lead to Republicans passing stuff like a national abortion ban later. And erasing climate legislation, and voting rights, and probably everything else democratic.
If a climate bill gets passed soon, and the filibuster remains, it should stick for 10 years at least.
Edit: Except there's no filibuster on that. Hmm.
But will Manchin & Sinema?What about something something like this?
Biden says he supports filibuster carve-out for voting rights | CNN Politics
President Joe Biden says he supports making an exception to the Senate filibuster rules in order to pass voting rights legislation.edition.cnn.com
That’s very unlikely but even if they do, who cares? The soonest they could do it would be 2025.Also republicans will just eliminate them when they gain back power.
I see this pessimism as part of the self destruction created by fear. Of what use is hope if it is going to fail? But everything under the condition that it must continue is bound to fail, for every thing that exists must end. This is all concern about the preservation of ego, the preservation of what we have identified with. To separate from that, to die to the specifics of family and culture is to eliminate hope for them but it also opens up the possibility of what we all share, sometimes named the universal. To die to personal treasure, the hope for one’s habituated notions of sacred cows is what cleans the dust off identification via recognition of something greater.That’s very unlikely but even if they do, who cares? The soonest they could do it would be 2025.
I think so, could maybe even get a crossover?But will Manchin & Sinema?
Also republicans will just eliminate them when they gain back power.
I agree, the problem is democracy may end in 2025. I just don’t have faith in the Dems to stop it from happening. The House is definitely going to the republicans, they’ve made sure of that with gerrymandering and voter suppression which will then seal their victory in 2024 as well. I don’t want to be a pessimist but so far I haven’t seen anything that will work to stop it. I don’t have faith that Garland is the right man for the job. I pray I’m completely wrong.I think so, could maybe even get a crossover?
Its not the point though IMO, without it you gonna lose 2022 and 2024, and then its game over. Game Over. Minority mafia rule for you and whatever fallout follows from that round the globe when the worlds biggest military power goes 100% policy for sale.
Its about buying time for you to deal with this neo fascist Q bull shit. If you dont. Game over.
Then its game over is it not?
Without voting rights, its gonna turn Q 2022/2024.
For the first time in my life, I donated to two of the most competitive Senate challengers. Collins absolutely should have lost, but for some weird reason, Mainers decided to stick by her.Yeah, how things could have been different if they had beaten Susan Collins or some other marginal R and had a seat out two cushion.
I think too that Obama was too timid and squandered his big win and majority. The ACA was important, but more should have been done while the majority was there. Too much wishful thinking and wasted time chasing bipartisanship.
Manchin will change his tune when he figures out that most of his constituents want a lot of what is in the bill, and that they are going to vote him out of office.
That’s a long way of saying we like our shit hole state.Nope. The BBB could say everyone in WV gets a million dollars each and due to how Manchin has been treated the majority of West Virginians would stand by him. A lot of us don't even like Manchin, but he's a West Virginian and we're standing by our own. That's just how we roll. Like it or not, we don't care.
Manchin has been coddled for almost a year now despite his being a proven liar. Biden and the Senate Dems have done everything but give Manchin a public blowjob and he still shits on them and shits on the people of West Virginia.Nope. The BBB could say everyone in WV gets a million dollars each and due to how Manchin has been treated the majority of West Virginians would stand by him. A lot of us don't even like Manchin, but he's a West Virginian and we're standing by our own. That's just how we roll. Like it or not, we don't care.
How about we take a $10,000 out of the federal budget dedicated to WV for every West Virginian - would that help sell the deal? Would you care then? That's only around $17B out of your economy - and you still get to stand up for your guy. I mean, do you really care??Nope. The BBB could say everyone in WV gets a million dollars each and due to how Manchin has been treated the majority of West Virginians would stand by him. A lot of us don't even like Manchin, but he's a West Virginian and we're standing by our own. That's just how we roll. Like it or not, we don't care.
So basicly we’re predicting end of democracy as we know it some time after 2024.I agree, the problem is democracy may end in 2025. I just don’t have faith in the Dems to stop it from happening. The House is definitely going to the republicans, they’ve made sure of that with gerrymandering and voter suppression which will then seal their victory in 2024 as well. I don’t want to be a pessimist but so far I haven’t seen anything that will work to stop it. I don’t have faith that Garland is the right man for the job. I pray I’m completely wrong.
Nope. The BBB could say everyone in WV gets a million dollars each and due to how Manchin has been treated the majority of West Virginians would stand by him. A lot of us don't even like Manchin, but he's a West Virginian and we're standing by our own. That's just how we roll. Like it or not, we don't care.
Nope. The BBB could say everyone in WV gets a million dollars each and due to how Manchin has been treated the majority of West Virginians would stand by him. A lot of us don't even like Manchin, but he's a West Virginian and we're standing by our own. That's just how we roll. Like it or not, we don't care.
The given decency is sadly unsurprising.
Imagine for a moment you are from a state you are reluctant to tell other people outside of it where you're from.
Why? Because you're repeatedly informed throughout your life you're little better than a 3rd world citizen due to where you're from.
Almost everyone from WV whom goes outside its borders experience this.
People think West Virginians cannot read for some reason as well, so those who don't even go outside its borders can become acquainted with the pleasant behavior waiting for them.
Bette Midler single handedly all but guaranteed BBB will go nowhere since what she said made national headlines.
At home, Manchin has attained sainthood of sorts due to all of this. Even people here who didn't like him before will now stand behind him. If he runs again he'd likely get the highest percentage of votes he's ever gotten before. If he were to vote for BBB in its present form right now it's now political suicide and he wouldn't win. Saying he won't vote for BBB is probably the largest political gain that's ever happened for him.
I am explaining to you all what it's like to be from here and an average of what we deal with to enhance your perspective. Carry on the insults, I don't really care, just say something one of us haven't heard before so it's at least entertaining and not boring.
Just remember he's working for us, he doesn't care what anyone outside WV wants, and us being treated poorly will not get you what you want. You aren't going to behave poorly and give us dollars as compensation. The poor attitude portrayed above is one reason why you aren't getting what you want. Look in a mirror, thank yourself and know you're very smart.
Merry Christmas. =)
Nope. The BBB could say everyone in WV gets a million dollars each and due to how Manchin has been treated the majority of West Virginians would stand by him. A lot of us don't even like Manchin, but he's a West Virginian and we're standing by our own. That's just how we roll. Like it or not, we don't care.
but it's totally not a handout if the president declares a tradwar that completely tanks agricultural exports and the federal government proceeds to provide funds to the tune of ~$25B!I love it! Helping your fellow Americans is now called hand outs and giveaways.
Don’t bother making America great again people, that’s just another hand out and giveaway! In the meantime please keep passing tax cuts and deregulations that primarily benefit political donors and big businesses.
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Tell me you are a brainwashed stooge for the rich without telling you are a brainwashed stooge for the rich.
Manchin is not being treated poorly. He is being dishonest and screwing the people of West Virginia as he looks out for number one.and us being treated poorly will not get you what you want.
Good idea.Look in a mirror
and us being treated poorly will not get you what you want.
The given decency is sadly unsurprising.
Imagine for a moment you are from a state you are reluctant to tell other people outside of it where you're from.
Why? Because you're repeatedly informed throughout your life you're little better than a 3rd world citizen due to where you're from.
Almost everyone from WV whom goes outside its borders experience this.
People think West Virginians cannot read for some reason as well, so those who don't even go outside its borders can become acquainted with the pleasant behavior waiting for them.
Bette Midler single handedly all but guaranteed BBB will go nowhere since what she said made national headlines.
At home, Manchin has attained sainthood of sorts due to all of this. Even people here who didn't like him before will now stand behind him. If he runs again he'd likely get the highest percentage of votes he's ever gotten before. If he were to vote for BBB in its present form right now it's political suicide and he wouldn't win. Saying he won't vote for BBB is probably the largest political gain that's ever happened for him.
I am explaining to you all what it's like to be from here and an average of what we deal with to enhance your perspective. Carry on the insults, I don't really care, just say something one of us haven't heard before so it's at least entertaining and not boring.
Just remember he's working for us, he doesn't care what anyone outside WV wants, and us being treated poorly will not get you what you want. You aren't going to behave poorly and give us dollars as compensation. The poor attitude portrayed above is one reason why you aren't getting what you want. Look in a mirror, thank yourself and know you're very smart.
Merry Christmas. =)