How does ostracizing Manchin accomplish this objective?So don't mobilize against your opponent, mobilize against a greater threat (pick one, we have a few to choose from). If necessary, take jabs at your opponent for their lack of concern, but make the focus a bigger fight than red vs blue.
Point out that he, like Republicans, are getting in the way of doing what needs to be done wrt public service, fighting climate change, fighting a global pandemic, and whatever other things they could choose to point out. Let the voters know who (actual names, not amorphous 'far right' or 'DINO' or whatever else) is actually getting in the way of progress. Then find someone who actually wants to play ball in that state that isn't a festering piece of shit otherwise, and get their ass in front of eyeballs ahead of 2022.How does ostracizing Manchin accomplish this objective?
Point out that he, like Republicans, are getting in the way of doing what needs to be done wrt public service, fighting climate change, fighting a global pandemic, and whatever other things they could choose to point out. Let the voters know who (actual names, not amorphous 'far right' or 'DINO' or whatever else) is actually getting in the way of progress.
Then find someone who actually wants to play ball in that state that isn't a festering piece of shit otherwise, and get their ass in front of eyeballs ahead of 2022.
It would just make us lose elections.EDIT: Hell, leverage it for future/other elections. 'See, we, unlike some others, actually care about our constituents, and care about what happens to America, so we get rid of those who hold back progress'.
In some ways I can bring myself to agree, but there's a specter looming over this whole affair in the form of an ineffectual government (or at least the perception of ineffectual). That'll be the pain point that Republicans leverage to win 5-10 seats in 2022, and put some R in the hot seat in 2024.If people want to shit on Sinema I'm 100% on board as Arizona could definitely elect a superior democratic senator to her. Manchin on the other hand is the single most valuable senator in the entire country for either party. He's a triumph for Democrats and should be treated as such.
Yeah, just look at all their accomplishments when they controlled the Whits House and both houses of congress with a super majority in the senate. All they managed to do was pass a republican health plan.Want to shake it up: elect more democrats. Throwing out what little advantage Democrats have is stupid, because so much can still be done with the slim majority, including ever important judicial confirmations.
I see you're delusional. That senate supermajority lasted a whopping ~80 days, and had a number of conservative Democrats in the Senate. However, the House under Pelosi's leadership did pass a bill with a public option (it was unfortunately stymied in the Senate by a death and some conservative Democrats opposing it); regardless, many pieces of legislation were signed into law including some banking reforms and the greatest expansion of the social safety net in my lifetime. If you don't think giving millions of people access to health insurance via Medicaid expansion and millions more subsidized private coverage (while also bolstering what that private coverage is required to provide - no lifetime caps, preventative care coverage, etc), then I have some beach front property in Wyoming that you just might be interested in.Yeah, just look at all their accomplishments when they controlled the Whits House and both houses of congress with a super majority in the senate. All they managed to do was pass a republican health plan.
They can't find enough money for programs that benefit working americans , but they have no problem not only spending over 700 billion on the military, but they find an extra 20-30 billion to give them.
Edit: Mixed signals, misdirection, and confusion, per the usual.
Manchin is saying he wants to cut the child tax credit completely, meanwhile student loan forbearance (corrected from forgiveness) is about to expire.
Obama mobilized the base and he crushed it.How do you both mobilize the base and not be extreme, as the base is by definition extreme compared to moderates?
Base. Mobilization. Does. Not. Work. The things you do to mobilize your base also mobilize your opponent’s, as Trump learned. It’s running in quicksand.
Did he? My memory is he ran a very moderate campaign - anti gay marriage, anti health care mandate (lol), etc.Obama mobilized the base and he crushed it.
Did he? My memory is he ran a very moderate campaign - anti gay marriage, anti health care mandate (lol), etc.
For a few months. This story is so old.Yeah, just look at all their accomplishments when they controlled the Whits House and both houses of congress with a super majority in the senate. All they managed to do was pass a republican health plan.
They can't find enough money for programs that benefit working americans , but they have no problem not only spending over 700 billion on the military, but they find an extra 20-30 billion to give them.
He mobilized the base with a progressive persona. It worked.Did he? My memory is he ran a very moderate campaign - anti gay marriage, anti health care mandate (lol), etc.
Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of him. He's got his BA, but hates capitalism and has worked for the last two years driving uber eats and door dash. Will be turning 26 and still has no real jobs on his resume. Still lives with mommy, plays video games most days, only working when he needs money to pay his credit cards. Total failure to launch.
No but i would love to see our school copy Japan/China etc education on having students clean up their classroom themselves.We need to put kids back in the coal mines.
But really, aren't child labor laws very anti libertarian?No but i would love to see our school copy Japan/China etc education on having students clean up their classroom themselves.
It's rather a bit more complicated than that. You have no idea what it's like out there for young people. The US isn't what it was when you were young, decades ago, largely due to GOP economic policy and corporate ransacking.Look at the parents for this. It is all on them. They allowed this.
Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of him. He's got his BA, but hates capitalism and has worked for the last two years driving uber eats and door dash. Will be turning 26 and still has no real jobs on his resume. Still lives with mommy, plays video games most days, only working when he needs money to pay his credit cards. Total failure to launch.
Look at the parents for this. It is all on them. They allowed this.
It's rather a bit more complicated than that. You have no idea what it's like out there for young people. The US isn't what it was when you were young, decades ago, largely due to GOP economic policy and corporate ransacking.
Parents are not helping by enabling him tho.
26, jobless and living at home is an embarrassment, esp when there are help wanted signs everywhere. Treat them like a child, expect child like behavior.
If he wants to talk about true costs to tax payers, how about talking about the true cost of corporate handouts to big corporations and the rich. The BBB would be cushion change in comparison."Why Manchin has concerns with including child tax credit in BBB, per source familiar - It has to do with how it impacts cost of bill, which he wants to keep at $1.75T - Manchin’s belief is that if the CTC is expanded over 10 years it would blow up the cost of the bill."
"- He isn't telling Biden to remove any specific policy, according to the source, but he has made clear that these expensive provisions are not going to fit to keep the bill at $1.75T -- Biden's framework would extend CTC for ONE year."
"- But Manchin has said that temporary programs do not reflect the true cost to taxpayers. And has repeatedly made clear that the cost of the bill should reflect how much the bill's programs cost over 10 years"
Exactly! And every news network should be inviting and calling him out on this and especially on the defense spending. Hypocritical, pos.If he wants to talk about true costs to tax payers, how about talking about the true cost of corporate handouts to big corporations and the rich. The BBB would be cushion change in comparison.
Depending on where he lives, he may need to work tons of jobs to be able to afford to live on his own.I disagree. There are tons of jobs available and at 26 he should be on his own. His parents coddled and spoiled him that is why he is still at home.