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kt

Diamond Member
Apr 1, 2000
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F* him. Manchin is worst than the Grinch. At least the Grinch's heart grew at the end. But for Manchin, I can't believe it's possible for his heart to shrink even more and then I realize he has none. What a fucking asshole.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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If I were the president I’d be campaigning in manchin and sinemas state talking about his bbb and other policies and how they will help your average American but then go on to say that it’s been blocked by republicans and two democrats, name and shame. Appeal to emotion and to logic.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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F* him. Manchin is worst than the Grinch. At least the Grinch's heart grew at the end. But for Manchin, I can't believe it's possible for his heart to shrink even more and then I realize he has none. What a fucking asshole.

Manchin is simply the joe Lieberman of the 20’s.
Americans will continue to be disillusioned with their government. Politicians better hope Americans don’t wake up or they better find a good bunker to hide in.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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yeah, investing in infrastructure is bad! that's why republicans wanted to do the exact same thing! fuck all those people!

oh wait, those people are us.

idiot.

Man, I dont know why Im wasting keystrokes here. The pork barrel infrastructure bill was already passed recently.

What this was was socialism, waste and so many crazy new rules and regs. The worst of which was giving the IRS the ability to invade our private banking accounts and go on fishing expeditions without probable cause or a warrant.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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You think someone here listens/watches right wing media?

Fuck off you anti American piece of trash.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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What comes next?

A bill of about 1.7-1.8T that fulfills fewer priorities but goes for the 10 years. Biden himself has held his fire on Manchin and so has D leadership. They're going to make another run at it. There is too much demand for everybody to simply walk.

People are pissed, rightfully, that a lot of what he's complaining about are changes he forced upon the bill. But once acceptance sets in dealmaking will resume.
 
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MichaelMay

Senior member
Jun 6, 2021
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What comes next?

A fascist dictatorship countered by either a civil war or we'll do what we do if they are allowed to take power and act no their delusions of grandeur like Hitler and have ourselves a jolly old world war.

Most people think that things won't turn that fast or that it can somehow be easily stopped, history teaches us that at the point people really get worried is when it's far too late.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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You should rejoice by moving to Eastern Uzbekistan, they hate America almost as much as you do.

I get it, you are disappointed. Im a flag waiving, freedom loving, American. And this country needs to remain free of socialism for as long as possible.

The dems are likely to try to go about this piecemeal, but for now its over for BBB.
 

MichaelMay

Senior member
Jun 6, 2021
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I get it, you are disappointed. Im a flag waiving, freedom loving, American. And this country needs to remain free of socialism for as long as possible.

The dems are likely to try to go about this piecemeal, but for now its over for BBB.

No, what you are is an evil, malevolent fascist who loves when people are hurting and support greed.

I'm pretty sure that if Trump were to support reinstituting slavery you'd support that because that is part of your "faith".

Don't talk to me again, it makes me sick when you address me as if you were worthy of doing so.
 
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MichaelMay

Senior member
Jun 6, 2021
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A bill of about 1.7-1.8T that fulfills fewer priorities but goes for the 10 years. Biden himself has held his fire on Manchin and so has D leadership. They're going to make another run at it. There is too much demand for everybody to simply walk.

People are pissed, rightfully, that a lot of what he's complaining about are changes he forced upon the bill. But once acceptance sets in dealmaking will resume.

Yeah, another run at what is nothing but a fucking McConnell loyal fucktard who is used by the Republicans to ensure that the story of the party that had full majority and got nothing done gets shouted out in the next few elections. Bothsides the same is now true, say thank you Manchin and just accept that the Reupblicans will now win every election in the forseeable future whether they have the vote or not, Manchin loves that shit.

But yeah, by all means, keep him in the party because having an inside loyalist of your enemy control everything you can do is a fucking incredibly great idea.
 

Franz316

Senior member
Sep 12, 2000
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It's really incredibly sad and disheartening how many Americans don't want to invest in our own country. It's become clear that these people actually want the country to fail and people to suffer. They'll do it under the nebulous guise of 'freedom' and faux meritocracy, along with an unspoken hope of a fascist theocratic rise to power. America could very well already be in a state of collapse, and it's completely self-induced.
 

Amol S.

Platinum Member
Mar 14, 2015
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Manchin should become an independent, similar to how there is a senate member from Alaska that is an independent. As for West Virginia, it seems people there do not care for Biden's promises, as they mostly voted for Trump.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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No, what you are is an evil, malevolent fascist who loves when people are hurting and support greed.

I'm pretty sure that if Trump were to support reinstituting slavery you'd support that because that is part of your "faith".

Don't talk to me again, it makes me sick when you address me as if you were worthy of doing so.

This coming from a guy who joined the forum last week. You need to learn to communicate your ideas in a productive manor leaving your emotions out of it.

I can tell by the fact that you are reaching for buzzwords to fluff your response that you have nothing in particular to say anyway, so dont bother expecting any replies from me.

I put you on ignore until March 2022. Maybe you will have grown up by then.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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I'm continually confused how it is not obvious how much better it is for Manchin to be a Democrat and in the Senate than any plausible alternative.
Of course, but what you see is a death wish. Manchin has an emotional need to feel as hated as he hates himself so his ego can stand up proudly to it and the rest of us who despise him despise the part of us that is just like him and will happily destroy any benefit he offers just to get even. I think you are looking for rational explanations and although you don't know why, you do know a rational explanation for this does not exist.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Manchin should become an independent, similar to how there is a senate member from Alaska that is an independent. As for West Virginia, it seems people there do not care for Biden's promises, as they mostly voted for Trump.
Yup, looks to me we will have to fall far deeper into insanity, maybe some years under fascism, for the wisdom of hindsight to kick in. Consciousness is hard when so much emotional damage needs to be remembered for any cure to happen.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Of course, but what you see is a death wish. Manchin has an emotional need to feel as hated as he hates himself so his ego can stand up proudly to it and the rest of us who despise him despise the part of us that is just like him and will happily destroy any benefit he offers just to get even. I think you are looking for rational explanations and although you don't know why, you do know a rational explanation for this does not exist.
I think there’s a perfectly rational explanation - Manchin is considerably more conservative than the average Democrat and he has a need to signal this to his constituents. This is similar to how you were unable to understand the fact that some people genuinely prefer to live in cities - people often have different preferences than you for reasons other than yearning for the sweet release of death. It’s something you’re going to have to come to grips with if you ever really want to understand people.

Also, I still bet either all of BBB or significant parts of it are passed in the next year or so.
 
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