BC2 - great game! But... what would you change?

[bunnyfubbles]

No prone and no claymores make this a better game imo

I'd change the balance of the guns - if you look at the stats there's basically one *best* gun for most classes (e.g. M60 for medic, XM8 for assault). COD :MW did a better job of making more of the guns useful for different play styles.

Assault: the M416, M16A2, and AN94 are all more popular than the XM8. The only unbalanced and abused weapon in the assault class is the "noob tube" which comes standard with any of the the rifles.

Engineer: the SCAR L, AKS 74U, or UMP 45 are all popular choices amongst engies, again, this class' abused and OP weapon is the Gustav rocket launcher.

Medic: you're correct here, the M60 is brokenly OP. The problem with this weapon is that after the first second or two of firing, its performance doesn't degrade and it can shoot pretty much 100% accurately at whatever you're aiming at. Last I heard this was going to be fixed in a future patch.

Recon: The GOL is probably the best sniper rifle, but the M95 and even starting M24 are right up there. The other rifles also serve their purposes, with the Type 88 and Snaiperskayas serving more as a closer range assault type weapon rather than super long range sniping.

shoot through walls like cod not just break the whole wall down.

You can shoot through some walls.

 

[KMFJD]

More maps

 

[paperfist]

More maps

And gameplay modes.

It's just me, but I'd love a game like this if it only had rifles. I know it's part of war but for me 'nades, knife and to a lesser extent 'n00b' tubes spoil the fun of facing someone face to face with equal weapons.

 

[heat901]

-Better auto balance
-more maps
-balance with certain weapons
-nerf rockets and noob tubes toward people

Though its a fairly new game so these should all be handled in time.

 

[imaheadcase]

ANother thing that ticks me off, you fire a rocket, or throw a nade and you die before it goes off you don't get jack for it.

 

[Sureshot324]

The game was made by DICE, not Relic

The only thing that I'd really want is improved VOIP. Squad only is pretty useless.

Yeah they should pretty much admit to the failure of the squad system. Everybody just does what they feel like and spawns on whatever squad leader is closest to where they want to be. They should get rid of the squad system altogether and make one key for team talk and one key for all talk.

 

[heat901]

Yeah they should pretty much admit to the failure of the squad system. Everybody just does what they feel like and spawns on whatever squad leader is closest to where they want to be. They should get rid of the squad system altogether and make one key for team talk and one key for all talk.

It really depends, Ive had some really good squads and some bad ones.... if the squad I am is bad ill switch squads or join a different game. Normally a good squad can mean a good score.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

Working voice chat, ping under 200, maps that are about ten times as big as they are now so that it's not just a funnel. Shotguns that are shotguns. But no game does that, so whatever.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Working voice chat, ping under 200, maps that are about ten times as big as they are now so that it's not just a funnel. Shotguns that are shotguns. But no game does that, so whatever.

Pings are measured too and from, so they're double what you'd see in any other game. If your ping is 200 you should think of it as 100.

As far as the shotguns I'm not sure what the complaint is, they work as I would expect them to, whether you're using the standard shot or the slugs specialization. If you're struggling to get kills with the shotguns you probably aren't using proper specializations and/or aren't accounting for the fact that this game isn't a "realism" type shooter by default (hardcore mode gets it closer to that)

 

[gramboh]

Overall the game is awesome (my first BF game). Things that are annoying:

1) UI is comically bad. Worst I have ever seen. The server browser is just awful, no filtering by region, pings will not display (tried the fix, won't work for me), slow and unresponsive, bad filtering options etc. I wish they would have integrated with Steamworks.

2) VOIP, no one EVER uses it. There should be a bind for squad VOIP and a bind for team VOIP, and the quality needs to be improved to what it is like in Valve games.

3) No typing while dead. They should make it like EVERY other FPS, type while dead but it only appears to other dead people.

4) More maps (they will come, and probably cost money)

5) Remember favourite class loadouts.

6) As far as balance, I guess the CG and 40mm are overpowered with the explosive dmg perk, fun to use for now, but when you play against a team of good people using them it's frustrating, same with M60.

7) Tutorial mode so people can learn to fly the different helis.

I think the spotting and squad systems are great and what truly make this game fun. Playing with 3 other good friends on vent (or 7 other, so you have 2 full squads) and communicating properly/working together is just awesome. Getting a recon in behind enemy lines, tossing motion sensors and then spawning up on them is so fun, or spawning as engy to save a Bradley etc. We played a bunch of squad DM last night, one of my buddies is an awesome Bradley driver, we stayed alive for about 15 minutes just driving around hammering on people, if he took damage I would just spawn in as engy as he drove to cover and repair.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I would also change how the game stops rewarding you after you reach platinum star level. I wouldn't care if they stop giving you points towards rank advancement, but I should have two platinum stars for my knife by now and I want people to know that.

 

[HendrixFan]

Snipers should lose almost all accuracy unless crouching (or prone really).

GLs and Rockets should lose almost all accuracy while jumping.

A knife shouldn't be one tap one kill unless from behind, I hate trying to unload a clip into someone as they run at me with a knife and I die and they have 14 health left.

 

[KaOTiK]

Probably has been mentioned but I didn't read the thread but the things I would like are:

More maps
Team balancing
Able to search browsers that have hardcore enabled or not
Save browser settings
Save kit setups
Be able to have multiple kits for each class

 

[scooterlibby]

Make it exactly like BF2, except with destructible environments and the updated graphics.

Ahh I wish they had applied the same treatment to RTCW, but instead they butchered it with the new Wolfenstein.

Coming off a long L4D jag, I seriously miss the VOIP. Not many people use it in this game.

Even more options for auto-speak would be nice.

 

[scooterlibby]

Probably has been mentioned but I didn't read the thread but the things I would like are:

Save kit setups

And holy shit, how the fuck have they not gotten this through yet? BC2 kinda reminds me of the iphone (not flaming here, I own one) in so much that it is awesome, but lacks BASIC features that should be a given. Now back to my nonexistent ipad without a USB input.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Snipers should lose almost all accuracy unless crouching (or prone really).

GLs and Rockets should lose almost all accuracy while jumping.

A knife shouldn't be one tap one kill unless from behind, I hate trying to unload a clip into someone as they run at me with a knife and I die and they have 14 health left.

If you're aware of a knifer and can't bring him down with a real weapon before he gets to you, you deserve to be killed. Not only are you using a real weapon while he's trying to knife you, you can always knife him in self defense, its a double whammy on your part.

 

[Chaotic42]

I just bought this game after weeks of being skeptical, and I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed.

-The game is sluggish
-The menu system is weird
-The first level weapons suck
-There's too much .ini file editing to fix things that the game should really handle better

I don't know. I've been playing it for about two hours now and I really want to give it more time, I just dislike it so much that I don't know if I will.

2142 was bad enough, but this game...

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I just bought this game after weeks of being skeptical, and I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed.

-The game is sluggish
-The menu system is weird
-The first level weapons suck
-There's too much .ini file editing to fix things that the game should really handle better

I don't know. I've been playing it for about two hours now and I really want to give it more time, I just dislike it so much that I don't know if I will.

2142 was bad enough, but this game...

The first level weapons really aren't that bad, what really gives players an advantage is the specialty power-ups such as extra explosive damage, magnum ammo, specialty sights (such as red dot) or body armor just to name a few.

 

[Chaotic42]

The first level weapons really aren't that bad, what really gives players an advantage is the specialty power-ups such as extra explosive damage, magnum ammo, specialty sights (such as red dot) or body armor just to name a few.

Yeah...

I don't really know how to phrase this, because for some reason this game is super popular on these forums... If I were the creator, I'd have taken a different path.

I don't guess there's any way to get my money back from Steam.