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Adrenaline

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Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

Ummm, USC hardly "fails" year in and year out. They have lost to one bad team in the last 8 years. Washington took Notre Dame to overtime and played LSU to 8 points. They are hardly what I, or anyone who knows anything about football, would call "horrible".

The SEC is a joke. It's nothing by a smoke and mirrors self-fulfilling prophecy. If you took any other conference and set it up the way the SEC is set up, you could say the same thing. They play great football, but they also play the system... hard.

USC loses to HORRIBLE opponents. I could understand a respectable loss, like Oregon or someone ranked in the top 15 but they CONSTANTLY lose to unranked HORRIBLE opponents.

Call the SEC a joke all you want, they have the last 3 National Champions at this time and it should be 4 after this year. The SEC is by FAR the best conference in America right now. Which conference would you even consider as a challenger?
 

skim milk

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

I seem to remember Alabama opening the season against some supposedly tough competition each of the last two years. Granted Clemson was shown to be posers last year and it appears VT may be as well.

Alabama opened the season against Virginia Tech (supposedly best in ACC) and beat them
The only real competitors for BCS ncg are Florida, Alabama, Texas, USC and maybe LSU. Everyone else is hiding behind smoke and mirrors.
 

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

Georgia opened at Oklahoma St and also played Arizona State
Alabama opened with Va Tech on a neutral field
Tennessee played UCLA in their 2nd game
LSU opened at Washington
Arkansas played Texas A&M in Texas on a neutral field
Auburn played West Virginia
South Carolina opened at North Carolina State and plays Clemson later
Florida closes with Florida State
Kentucky played Louisville
Vanderbilt plays Georgia Tech

The only SEC schools without at least one BCS conference opponent are Ole Miss and Miss St. Try again.
 

JDawg1536

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Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

Ummm, USC hardly "fails" year in and year out. They have lost to one bad team in the last 8 years. Washington took Notre Dame to overtime and played LSU to 8 points. They are hardly what I, or anyone who knows anything about football, would call "horrible".

The SEC is a joke. It's nothing by a smoke and mirrors self-fulfilling prophecy. If you took any other conference and set it up the way the SEC is set up, you could say the same thing. They play great football, but they also play the system... hard.

USC loses to HORRIBLE opponents. I could understand a respectable loss, like Oregon or someone ranked in the top 15 but they CONSTANTLY lose to unranked HORRIBLE opponents.

Call the SEC a joke all you want, they have the last 3 National Champions at this time and it should be 4 after this year. The SEC is by FAR the best conference in America right now. Which conference would you even consider as a challenger?

2002 - lost to 10-2 Washington St and 11-2 Kansas St
2003- lost to 8-6 Cal
2004- did not lose
2005- lost to 13-0 Texas
2006- lost to 10-4 Oregon St and 7-5 UCLA
2007- lost to 4-8 Stanford (their only bad loss) and Oregon, who was the best team in the country and went on the finish 9-4
2008 - lost to 9-4 Oregon St

So in the last seven years they have lost to 9 teams. Only one of which had a losing record, and only two of which were not in the top 25 at some point during the year. Eight of those losses were on the road. So please help me because I seem to be needing glasses. Where are these "horrible" teams that USC is losing to? Where? Please Help me. Where are they? I can't find them!!!! WHERE!!!??!?!?

 

kalster

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I just want to see USC (if they can make it) vs a good SEC team in a BCS games(NCG or not), USC vs LSU/Alabama/Florida would be a good game. But it doesnt seem likely unless USC makes it to the NCG or if USC shares the Pac-10 with another team and gets a BCS bid (which is quite unlikely given the pollsters will never send 2 pac-10 teams to the bcs)
 

JDawg1536

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

Georgia opened at Oklahoma St and also played Arizona State
Alabama opened with Va Tech on a neutral field
Tennessee played UCLA in their 2nd game
LSU opened at Washington
Arkansas played Texas A&M in Texas on a neutral field
Auburn played West Virginia
South Carolina opened at North Carolina State and plays Clemson later
Florida closes with Florida State
Kentucky played Louisville
Vanderbilt plays Georgia Tech

The only SEC schools without at least one BCS conference opponent are Ole Miss and Miss St. Try again.

Try what again? The SEC does in fact play the fewest number of BCS teams out of conference on average. He didn't say they don't play any, he said they play the fewest... which is 100% accurate.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

Georgia opened at Oklahoma St and also played Arizona State
Alabama opened with Va Tech on a neutral field
Tennessee played UCLA in their 2nd game
LSU opened at Washington
Arkansas played Texas A&M in Texas on a neutral field
Auburn played West Virginia
South Carolina opened at North Carolina State and plays Clemson later
Florida closes with Florida State
Kentucky played Louisville
Vanderbilt plays Georgia Tech

The only SEC schools without at least one BCS conference opponent are Ole Miss and Miss St. Try again.

Try what again? The SEC does in fact play the fewest number of BCS teams out of conference on average. He didn't say they don't play any, he said they play the fewest... which is 100% accurate.

In the past years, that has been accurate. But the SEC has picked up their out of conference schedules the last two years and are scheduling better ooc games in the future.

He also said that they open up against the weak sisters of the poor at home. Which is inaccurate this year if you look at the list. The only truly embarrassing OOC schedules for the SEC this year is Florida's opening schedule and the two Mississippi schools.
 

JDawg1536

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

Georgia opened at Oklahoma St and also played Arizona State
Alabama opened with Va Tech on a neutral field
Tennessee played UCLA in their 2nd game
LSU opened at Washington
Arkansas played Texas A&M in Texas on a neutral field
Auburn played West Virginia
South Carolina opened at North Carolina State and plays Clemson later
Florida closes with Florida State
Kentucky played Louisville
Vanderbilt plays Georgia Tech

The only SEC schools without at least one BCS conference opponent are Ole Miss and Miss St. Try again.

Try what again? The SEC does in fact play the fewest number of BCS teams out of conference on average. He didn't say they don't play any, he said they play the fewest... which is 100% accurate.

In the past years, that has been accurate. But the SEC has picked up their out of conference schedules the last two years and are scheduling better ooc games in the future.

He also said that they open up against the weak sisters of the poor at home. Which is inaccurate this year if you look at the list. The only truly embarrassing OOC schedules for the SEC this year is Florida's opening schedule and the two Mississippi schools.


Ummmm.. and what do you call playing Missouri State, Louisiana Tech, Western Carolina, and Miami of Ohio? So that's seven schools with pathetic opening games, not only 3. You could count Washington coming off an 0-12 year for LSU, but they played LSU, Notre Dame, and USC very tough and appear to be very much improved, so they don't count. Otherwise it would be eight.
 

Adrenaline

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Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

Ummm, USC hardly "fails" year in and year out. They have lost to one bad team in the last 8 years. Washington took Notre Dame to overtime and played LSU to 8 points. They are hardly what I, or anyone who knows anything about football, would call "horrible".

The SEC is a joke. It's nothing by a smoke and mirrors self-fulfilling prophecy. If you took any other conference and set it up the way the SEC is set up, you could say the same thing. They play great football, but they also play the system... hard.

USC loses to HORRIBLE opponents. I could understand a respectable loss, like Oregon or someone ranked in the top 15 but they CONSTANTLY lose to unranked HORRIBLE opponents.

Call the SEC a joke all you want, they have the last 3 National Champions at this time and it should be 4 after this year. The SEC is by FAR the best conference in America right now. Which conference would you even consider as a challenger?

2002 - lost to 10-2 Washington St and 11-2 Kansas St
2003- lost to 8-6 Cal
2004- did not lose
2005- lost to 13-0 Texas
2006- lost to 10-4 Oregon St and 7-5 UCLA
2007- lost to 4-8 Stanford (their only bad loss) and Oregon, who was the best team in the country and went on the finish 9-4
2008 - lost to 9-4 Oregon St

So in the last seven years they have lost to 9 teams. Only one of which had a losing record, and only two of which were not in the top 25 at some point during the year. Eight of those losses were on the road. So please help me because I seem to be needing glasses. Where are these "horrible" teams that USC is losing to? Where? Please Help me. Where are they? I can't find them!!!! WHERE!!!??!?!?

2002 - 2 losses. WSU was ok then but KSU was ALWAYS overrated and played nobody EVER
WSU played the Rose Bowl game on 1/1 and lost to Oklahoma
KSU played the Holiday Bowl game on 12/27 and beat Arizona State
2003 - a 6 loss team
2004 - YAY
2005 - I have no idea how they lost to run all over the place while bing a horrible passer Young. I was rooting for them to win. I can't stand Texas.
2006 - a 4 loss team and 5 loss team
2007 - LOL
2008 - a 4 loss team that was actually decent, didn't they run the ball all over USC? (Florida lost to Ole Miss a 4 loss team by a blocked extra point for a 1 point defeat and Oklahoma lost to Texas, don't recall the score)
2009 - Washington? Really?

They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

If USC had handled Washington like they should have, then we would not even be talking about this right now. USC for some reason has a total oddball loss in their conference to some team not even close to their level.

Maybe I should not have said "every year" but it has come pretty close. It is sad to see. Washington is not any good this year and neither is Notre Dame, sorry.

Saying Washington is better this year is like saying the Detroit Lions are better this year. It is bound to happen but they are still horrible.
 

miketheidiot

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GO HAWKEYES!

Yes, I know they've been in too many close games against garbage teams to be ranked sixth, but I don't think people thought they'd be able to hang with Penn State and Wisconsin. They've definitely surprised me.

besides iowa state, they have a pretty tough schedule
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

lsu almost lost to washington.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: JDawg1536
2002 - lost to 10-2 Washington St and 11-2 Kansas St
2003- lost to 8-6 Cal
2004- did not lose
2005- lost to 13-0 Texas
2006- lost to 10-4 Oregon St and 7-5 UCLA
2007- lost to 4-8 Stanford (their only bad loss) and Oregon, who was the best team in the country and went on the finish 9-4
2008 - lost to 9-4 Oregon St

So in the last seven years they have lost to 9 teams. Only one of which had a losing record, and only two of which were not in the top 25 at some point during the year. Eight of those losses were on the road. So please help me because I seem to be needing glasses. Where are these "horrible" teams that USC is losing to? Where? Please Help me. Where are they? I can't find them!!!! WHERE!!!??!?!?
With the exception of the loss to Stanford, all USC losses since 2002 were on the road (so far).
 

Adrenaline

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

lsu almost lost to washington.

Almost doesn't count for anything but sympathy. Washington is still terrible.
 

Adrenaline

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: JDawg1536
2002 - lost to 10-2 Washington St and 11-2 Kansas St
2003- lost to 8-6 Cal
2004- did not lose
2005- lost to 13-0 Texas
2006- lost to 10-4 Oregon St and 7-5 UCLA
2007- lost to 4-8 Stanford (their only bad loss) and Oregon, who was the best team in the country and went on the finish 9-4
2008 - lost to 9-4 Oregon St

So in the last seven years they have lost to 9 teams. Only one of which had a losing record, and only two of which were not in the top 25 at some point during the year. Eight of those losses were on the road. So please help me because I seem to be needing glasses. Where are these "horrible" teams that USC is losing to? Where? Please Help me. Where are they? I can't find them!!!! WHERE!!!??!?!?
With the exception of the loss to Stanford, all USC losses since 2002 were on the road (so far).

I actually knew that. I jsut do not understand how they randomly do not show up to a game and allow this to happen. The Stanford game was a really bad loss.
 

miketheidiot

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sec fans need to get used to the fact that their conference is overrated.


Also since when is the big ten overrated? they are probably the most hated on conference around.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
sec fans need to get used to the fact that their conference is overrated.


Also since when is the big ten overrated? they are probably the most hated on conference around.

Don't you mean the most beloved conference around? I mean I guess a lot of the other conferences are pretty jealous that they will never have more loyal or devoted fans. So maybe there is some hating going on there.

The sad fact most of you other conference can't seem to get over, is that when you look at fanbase, viewership, and game attendance the Big Ten towers over you all. You just aren't as popular. In my opinion it has to do mainly with the Big Ten sticking to hard nose old school football that most college football fans prefer. Yes it hurts our performance, but who cares.

Putting your hate aside, if your team isn't on and there isn't a huge game on the default game to watch is the Big Ten because you will be guaranteed to be watching a solid beat each other's ass game.

The big networks know this. The BCS Bowl sponsors know this. It is why we get "overrated" and why we get to go to 7 major bowls when there are only 11 god damn teams. Who else can honestly say that?
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

Ummm, USC hardly "fails" year in and year out. They have lost to one bad team in the last 8 years. Washington took Notre Dame to overtime and played LSU to 8 points. They are hardly what I, or anyone who knows anything about football, would call "horrible".

The SEC is a joke. It's nothing by a smoke and mirrors self-fulfilling prophecy. If you took any other conference and set it up the way the SEC is set up, you could say the same thing. They play great football, but they also play the system... hard.

USC loses to HORRIBLE opponents. I could understand a respectable loss, like Oregon or someone ranked in the top 15 but they CONSTANTLY lose to unranked HORRIBLE opponents.

Call the SEC a joke all you want, they have the last 3 National Champions at this time and it should be 4 after this year. The SEC is by FAR the best conference in America right now. Which conference would you even consider as a challenger?

2002 - lost to 10-2 Washington St and 11-2 Kansas St
2003- lost to 8-6 Cal
2004- did not lose
2005- lost to 13-0 Texas
2006- lost to 10-4 Oregon St and 7-5 UCLA
2007- lost to 4-8 Stanford (their only bad loss) and Oregon, who was the best team in the country and went on the finish 9-4
2008 - lost to 9-4 Oregon St

So in the last seven years they have lost to 9 teams. Only one of which had a losing record, and only two of which were not in the top 25 at some point during the year. Eight of those losses were on the road. So please help me because I seem to be needing glasses. Where are these "horrible" teams that USC is losing to? Where? Please Help me. Where are they? I can't find them!!!! WHERE!!!??!?!?

2002 - 2 losses. WSU was ok then but KSU was ALWAYS overrated and played nobody EVER
WSU played the Rose Bowl game on 1/1 and lost to Oklahoma
KSU played the Holiday Bowl game on 12/27 and beat Arizona State
2003 - a 6 loss team
2004 - YAY
2005 - I have no idea how they lost to run all over the place while bing a horrible passer Young. I was rooting for them to win. I can't stand Texas.
2006 - a 4 loss team and 5 loss team
2007 - LOL
2008 - a 4 loss team that was actually decent, didn't they run the ball all over USC? (Florida lost to Ole Miss a 4 loss team by a blocked extra point for a 1 point defeat and Oklahoma lost to Texas, don't recall the score)
2009 - Washington? Really?

They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

If USC had handled Washington like they should have, then we would not even be talking about this right now. USC for some reason has a total oddball loss in their conference to some team not even close to their level.

Maybe I should not have said "every year" but it has come pretty close. It is sad to see. Washington is not any good this year and neither is Notre Dame, sorry.

Saying Washington is better this year is like saying the Detroit Lions are better this year. It is bound to happen but they are still horrible.

Who has been better since 2002 from a consistency standpoint?
 

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.
I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.
The PI call was legit, sorry, but the UR was a joke. You can't touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.
OK, so where was the offensive pass interference call? link

Yep, apparently you CAN touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.

 

JDawg1536

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Originally posted by: Adrenaline


2002 - 2 losses. WSU was ok then but KSU was ALWAYS overrated and played nobody EVER
WSU played the Rose Bowl game on 1/1 and lost to Oklahoma
KSU played the Holiday Bowl game on 12/27 and beat Arizona State
2003 - a 6 loss team
2004 - YAY
2005 - I have no idea how they lost to run all over the place while bing a horrible passer Young. I was rooting for them to win. I can't stand Texas.
2006 - a 4 loss team and 5 loss team
2007 - LOL
2008 - a 4 loss team that was actually decent, didn't they run the ball all over USC? (Florida lost to Ole Miss a 4 loss team by a blocked extra point for a 1 point defeat and Oklahoma lost to Texas, don't recall the score)
2009 - Washington? Really?

They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

If USC had handled Washington like they should have, then we would not even be talking about this right now. USC for some reason has a total oddball loss in their conference to some team not even close to their level.

Maybe I should not have said "every year" but it has come pretty close. It is sad to see. Washington is not any good this year and neither is Notre Dame, sorry.

Saying Washington is better this year is like saying the Detroit Lions are better this year. It is bound to happen but they are still horrible.


LOL @ calling WSU and Kansas St from the late 90's-03 Ok. What the fuck exactly is your idea of a good football team? is there only one good football team every year?

Lol @ criticizing them for losing to a 6 loss team. Three of their losses that year were to top 25 teams, and none of their losses came from an opponent under .500

Lol @ replying "yay" to one of the greatest football teams in NCAA history going undefeated and smoking an undefeated Oklahoma team featuring a returning Heisman winner and Adrian Peterson.

Again lol @ 4 and losses. The 4 loss team beat Chase Daniel and Tony Temple in the Sun Bowl and the 5 loss team lost to Florida St in a bowl game.

Lol @ "a 4 loss team that was actually decent" And yeah I guess you can say they "ran all over USC". They had an All American RB and a very good offensive line. That team also went to pitch a shutout against a top 20 team that hadn't been shut out in a decade. They lost by a TD on the road. Yeah Florida lost on a blocked kick, but they lost on a blocked kick, at home, to a team with a 12 game conference losing streak. I think Oklahoma lost to Texas by 10, and they gave up over 40 points. I don't know why you brought all that up though.

Lol @ "Washington really?". Yes Washington. They lost on a last second field goal. Washington played LSU to eight fucking points, and took ND (and yes they are a good team) to overtime. What don't you get about Washington being a good team? Jake Locker is one of the top 5 QBs in the country.
 

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They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

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Name a single team that "should have" beaten USC in the last 7 years? By saying that they should not have lost to any of those teams you are acknowledging the fact that they are among the very best, if not the best, year in and year out. How do you get tired of hearing about them when they blow one game but don't get tired of hearing about garbage LSU making it to the NCG after losing to Arkansas AND Kentucky in the same year? I really get tired of hearing about LSU when they lose like that, and Florida when they lose to Ole Miss, and Georgia when they barely scrape by ASU, and Alabama when they get their asses kicked by Utah, and blah blah blah.

No team wins all the time, that's why they play the game. There are plenty of good teams out there that are capable of beating any team on any given weekend. Your idea of a "horrible" team is a little fucked up.
 

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Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.
I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

The PI call was legit, sorry, but the UR was a joke. You can't touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.

Yeah you can. It was an underthrown ball and the DB turned to make a play on it. There was nothing wrong. If that BS was supposed to be called like that, every QB would intentionally underthrow the ball and let the WR get a pass interference call on every down. It was a weak sauce pussy ass call. Not nearly as bad as the personal foul on the next play though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3Xq9BXu8c

 

Adrenaline

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Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline


2002 - 2 losses. WSU was ok then but KSU was ALWAYS overrated and played nobody EVER
WSU played the Rose Bowl game on 1/1 and lost to Oklahoma
KSU played the Holiday Bowl game on 12/27 and beat Arizona State
2003 - a 6 loss team
2004 - YAY
2005 - I have no idea how they lost to run all over the place while bing a horrible passer Young. I was rooting for them to win. I can't stand Texas.
2006 - a 4 loss team and 5 loss team
2007 - LOL
2008 - a 4 loss team that was actually decent, didn't they run the ball all over USC? (Florida lost to Ole Miss a 4 loss team by a blocked extra point for a 1 point defeat and Oklahoma lost to Texas, don't recall the score)
2009 - Washington? Really?

They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

If USC had handled Washington like they should have, then we would not even be talking about this right now. USC for some reason has a total oddball loss in their conference to some team not even close to their level.

Maybe I should not have said "every year" but it has come pretty close. It is sad to see. Washington is not any good this year and neither is Notre Dame, sorry.

Saying Washington is better this year is like saying the Detroit Lions are better this year. It is bound to happen but they are still horrible.


LOL @ calling WSU and Kansas St from the late 90's-03 Ok. What the fuck exactly is your idea of a good football team? is there only one good football team every year?

Lol @ criticizing them for losing to a 6 loss team. Three of their losses that year were to top 25 teams, and none of their losses came from an opponent under .500

Lol @ replying "yay" to one of the greatest football teams in NCAA history going undefeated and smoking an undefeated Oklahoma team featuring a returning Heisman winner and Adrian Peterson.

Again lol @ 4 and losses. The 4 loss team beat Chase Daniel and Tony Temple in the Sun Bowl and the 5 loss team lost to Florida St in a bowl game.

Lol @ "a 4 loss team that was actually decent" And yeah I guess you can say they "ran all over USC". They had an All American RB and a very good offensive line. That team also went to pitch a shutout against a top 20 team that hadn't been shut out in a decade. They lost by a TD on the road. Yeah Florida lost on a blocked kick, but they lost on a blocked kick, at home, to a team with a 12 game conference losing streak. I think Oklahoma lost to Texas by 10, and they gave up over 40 points. I don't know why you brought all that up though.

Lol @ "Washington really?". Yes Washington. They lost on a last second field goal. Washington played LSU to eight fucking points, and took ND (and yes they are a good team) to overtime. What don't you get about Washington being a good team? Jake Locker is one of the top 5 QBs in the country.

Yes, KSU was horrible, sorry, they NEVER played anyone that was really good, decent maybe, but nothing spectacular. When they played highly ranked opponents they lost. But at least they beat up on all the underachieving teams all the time. I don't follow WSU.

A 6 loss team is a 6 loss team, they suck.

Oklahoma's returning Heisman winner was Jason White? Don't make me laugh. A huge joke. I said YAY, congrats on a title.

2005 was a heartbreak I know.

2 losses, NEXT !

Stanford at home, nothing needs to be said.

Washington is HORRIBLE, PATHETIC, CRAPPY, anything else I can think of. They had to get better from last year, heck they would not get any worse. Notre Dame has beaten NOBODY of relevence.
 

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Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Originally posted by: Adrenaline


They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

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Name a single team that "should have" beaten USC in the last 7 years? By saying that they should not have lost to any of those teams you are acknowledging the fact that they are among the very best, if not the best, year in and year out. How do you get tired of hearing about them when they blow one game but don't get tired of hearing about garbage LSU making it to the NCG after losing to Arkansas AND Kentucky in the same year? I really get tired of hearing about LSU when they lose like that, and Florida when they lose to Ole Miss, and Georgia when they barely scrape by ASU, and Alabama when they get their asses kicked by Utah, and blah blah blah.

No team wins all the time, that's why they play the game. There are plenty of good teams out there that are capable of beating any team on any given weekend. Your idea of a "horrible" team is a little fucked up.

The thing is the teams that stand a chance to beat USC don't do it and the teams USC should beat down are the ones they don't step up for. I do NOT get it. And yes, they lose to some HORRIBLE teams. Maybe your idea of a horrible team is different than mine. Maybe that is called an opinion. USC is one of the best teams of the past decade. To bad they could have 3, or more, national titles if they would step up for the "lower tiered" opponents in their own conference alone.

I thought Alabama was overrated last year and said they would lose the SEC Championship game and their bowl game to my friends, who laughed, but hey I had the last laugh. I brought up the other stuff about OK and FL because they played last year for the NT instead of USC being there. OK got in on a technicality.
 
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