BCS RANKINGS OUT!!!!

[alexjohnson16]

Originally posted by: dsity

Originally posted by: AeroEngy

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CPA
Oh please, I'm not a Cinci fan but Tony Pike would surgically dismantle Iowa's secondary. Iowa doesn't have Cinci's speed. Of course, Big Ten homers would say differently.

This isn't basketball. There is no team in the Big East that could beat any team in the top half of the Big Ten in football.

Wow what a Big Ten Homer. Lets review the Big Ten Bowl Games from last year.

Champs Sports Bowl - Lost
Alamo Bowl - Lost
Insight Bowl - Lost
Outback Bowl - Won
Capital One Bowl - Lost
Rose Bowl - Lost
Fiesta Bowl - Lost

1-7 not very impressive.

Big 10 nutriders should realize their conference hasn't performed well lately.

They definitely haven't performed lately.

But Big Ten haters should realize these things are cyclical, and that the Big Ten will be king again some day.

I'm fine with the hatred shown. Maybe it will lessen expectations and the Big Ten will get one BCS bid (auto-bid) so it can properly line up its bowl games, and get better matchups across the board. The two bids have killed the bowl record the past few years.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: dbk
Besides the first three - it's a crapshoot. Hopefully, that'll make the game more exciting at the end of the season...

crap shoot hardly......of the rest USC would dominate any of the rest! If fact USC should be bin the top 3.
It`s amazing how the Coaches Poll and AP disagree with BCS!!

 

[alexjohnson16]

Well, if USC didn't piss the bed against Washington then they'd have a legit say. Starting QB or not, USC should have crushed Washington.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
I love how Cincinnati and Boise State are both above Iowa. So ridiculous. Does anyone really think head to head either of these teams would have a chance against any of the Top teams in other divisions. Seriously who have they beaten? Nobodies. VTech which is so overranked it wasn't funny.

Boise Sate beat the #13 ranked team in the nation - U of Oregon.

I would not consider them to be nobodies.

Also Boise State has a history of winning their bowl games against top rated teams.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16

Originally posted by: dsity

Originally posted by: AeroEngy

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CPA
Oh please, I'm not a Cinci fan but Tony Pike would surgically dismantle Iowa's secondary. Iowa doesn't have Cinci's speed. Of course, Big Ten homers would say differently.

This isn't basketball. There is no team in the Big East that could beat any team in the top half of the Big Ten in football.

Wow what a Big Ten Homer. Lets review the Big Ten Bowl Games from last year.

Champs Sports Bowl - Lost
Alamo Bowl - Lost
Insight Bowl - Lost
Outback Bowl - Won
Capital One Bowl - Lost
Rose Bowl - Lost
Fiesta Bowl - Lost

1-7 not very impressive.

Big 10 nutriders should realize their conference hasn't performed well lately.

They definitely haven't performed lately.

But Big Ten haters should realize these things are cyclical, and that the Big Ten will be king again some day.

I'm fine with the hatred shown. Maybe it will lessen expectations and the Big Ten will get one BCS bid (auto-bid) so it can properly line up its bowl games, and get better matchups across the board. The two bids have killed the bowl record the past few years.

Yeah, but that day ain't today. Not by a long long long shot.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

You mean like how Florida came to play against Arkansas?

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CPA
Oh please, I'm not a Cinci fan but Tony Pike would surgically dismantle Iowa's secondary. Iowa doesn't have Cinci's speed. Of course, Big Ten homers would say differently.

This isn't basketball. There is no team in the Big East that could beat any team in the top half of the Big Ten in football.

Typical Big Ten fantacism. Your conference is once again overrated but you are blind to it. I guarantee Cinci, WVU (with a health Jarrett Brown) and even SFU could be OSU, Michigan or Iowa on a consistent basis. Take off the blinders and stop listening to ESPN. Watch some actual games outside of your conference once in a while.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

I would love to see Big Ten teams play more Big East teams just to put them in their place. Unfortunately the only one that ever seems to play us is Rutgers and Syracuse, both of which get thoroughly put in their place.

I grew up in Big Ten country and have to say it is the most overrated conference in the country right now. Is it a top 6 conference? Sure. But it is overhyped by people who supposedly know something about college football that ranks it higher than 6th. BCS conferences in no particular order:

SEC
Big 12
PAC 10
ACC
Big East
Big 10

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

You mean like how Florida came to play against Arkansas?

They still won though right? They did not choke against an unranked team in their own conference? They dropped because of playing poorly as well.

Edit:

Also, the reason why more SEC teams are not ranked is because they beat up on each other.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
They still won though right? They did not choke against an unranked team in their own conference? They dropped because of playing poorly as well.

Well, you said that should come to play - and they clearly did NOT come to play against Arkansas. That game was a few TERRIBLE calls away from being an Arkansas win. I'm not saying Florida isn't #1, but they definitely didn't come to play against Arkansas.
Edit:

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Also, the reason why more SEC teams are not ranked is because they beat up on each other.

I do agree with that, I agree that the SEC is probably the best conference out there - well above the others.

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
I grew up in Big Ten country and have to say it is the most overrated conference in the country right now. Is it a top 6 conference? Sure. But it is overhyped by people who supposedly know something about college football that ranks it higher than 6th. BCS conferences in no particular order:

SEC
Big 12
PAC 10
ACC
Big East
Big 10

That's pretty much it. I'd stick SEC at the top, probably the Big East just under the Big 10 with them at the bottom. Tough call for the rest of the conferences, but yeah, you've got it about right. Big Ten fans are pretty fanatical. However, like it's been said in the other threads - the Big Ten top teams usually do get beaten by the top teams from the Big 12/SEC/ACC, but those other conferences have some teams that are just completely garbage. I'd argue that more often than not the middle/bottom Big 10 would probably beat the middle/bottom of the other conferences. The Big 10 is probably the second most competitive conference with IN conference play, behind the SEC.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
They still won though right? They did not choke against an unranked team in their own conference? They dropped because of playing poorly as well.

Well, you said that should come to play - and they clearly did NOT come to play against Arkansas. That game was a few TERRIBLE calls away from being an Arkansas win. I'm not saying Florida isn't #1, but they definitely didn't come to play against Arkansas.

Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

USC needs to take every opponent serious. Looking at thier conference losses the past few years, it does NOT appear that way.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Also, the reason why more SEC teams are not ranked is because they beat up on each other.

Duh. In every conference, you have teams beating up on each other. It doesn't tell you anything about the conference other than the parity. You could have equally shitty teams beating each other up and end up with about the same records with a conference with actually good teams.

Hell, even a conference where one team always goes undefeated and one team goes winless may still be a better conference compared to one where "the teams beat each other up." You just don't know until you have inter-conference play.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

SEC refs are consistently awful, usually in favor of the home team.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Also, the reason why more SEC teams are not ranked is because they beat up on each other.

Duh. In every conference, you have teams beating up on each other. It doesn't tell you anything about the conference other than the parity. You could have equally shitty teams beating each other up and end up with about the same records with a conference with actually good teams.

Hell, even a conference where one team always goes undefeated and one team goes winless may still be a better conference compared to one where "the teams beat each other up." You just don't know until you have inter-conference play.

Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

The PI call was legit, sorry, but the UR was a joke. You can't touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

The PI call was legit, sorry, but the UR was a joke. You can't touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.

OK, so where was the offensive pass interference call? link

Hahaha... this guy pretty sums up the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IexNyyvq4OI&NR=1

 

[Adrenaline]

After that play is a 3rd and 10. But the PI call that was good was right before the UR call that was bad.

The second video you posted does not talk about the PI you posted but the one that was legit. He turned and his shoulder hit the WR in the chest, thus PI.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
After that play is a 3rd and 10? I couldn't make it out. But the PI call that was good was right before the UR call that was bad.

I know it was. I'm asking why did Arkansas get flagged for this but Florida wasn't flagged for that.

 

[jEnus]

I'm a BSU Fan and Alumni. I will admit that I don't think we deserve the 4th spot, especially after the last two showings (against Tulsa & UC Davis). I am looking forward to the weeks ahead, especially putting crushing blow on Idaho.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
After that play is a 3rd and 10? I couldn't make it out. But the PI call that was good was right before the UR call that was bad.

I know it was. I'm asking why did Arkansas get flagged for this but Florida wasn't flagged for that.

I would have to see where the ref's position was on the play. I could not make it out from what I was seeing. If the ref was able to see that then he is either blind or a horrible ref.

Btw, I am a Miami fan and really could care less about Florida. YAY VIRGINIA TECH AND OHIO STATE LOST ON THE SAME WEEKEND !!!! This is awesome. If you ever want to see a horrible PI call that actually matters, look at the Miami vs OSU championship game where no contact was made and the ref right on the spot made no flag call but the one across the length of the endzone threw a flag for PI. After the game Ken Dorsey said something like this: You play through the good calls and the bad calls and we didn't, so we lost the game.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Negative. The SEC is clearly the best conference in college football and would have more teams ranked if they did not beat up on each other. Stick them in other conferences and they would flourish. Try again.

Here's the SEC's formula for success. Play nobody out of conference. If for some reason you do play somebody, make sure it's at home. Have everyone start conference play 4-0 against the likes of Charleston Southern, Florida International, Tennessee Tech, South Carolina St, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Ball State, Furman (those are some of the opponents of the top 6 SEC teams). When everyone in the conference is undefeated, you get a lot of teams ranked, not because they are good, but because they are undefeated. The SEC doesn't beat up on each other more then any other conference, they are just over-ranked going in.

The SEC is very good, and probably is the best conference. However, the SEC plays the least BCS conference teams out of conference and games the system because of it.

I seem to remember Alabama opening the season against some supposedly tough competition each of the last two years. Granted Clemson was shown to be posers last year and it appears VT may be as well.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: skim milk
I'd love to see any of these matchups

Florida vs Texas/USC and Alabama vs Texas/USC
see who the real deal is

USC fails year in and year out to step up to the plate in their own conference against unranked teams. They do not belong in the national title conversation at all at this point. They lost to a team that is horrible this year and was even worse last year. Until they get the point that you come to play EVERY week, then they are just overhyped.

The SEC is the #1 conference in college football hands down. Nobody comes close.

Ummm, USC hardly "fails" year in and year out. They have lost to one bad team in the last 8 years. Washington took Notre Dame to overtime and played LSU to 8 points. They are hardly what I, or anyone who knows anything about football, would call "horrible".

The SEC is a joke. It's nothing but a smoke and mirrors self-fulfilling prophecy. If you took any other conference and set it up the way the SEC is set up, you could say the same thing. They play great football, but they also play the system... hard.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
They still won though right? They did not choke against an unranked team in their own conference? They dropped because of playing poorly as well.

Well, you said that should come to play - and they clearly did NOT come to play against Arkansas. That game was a few TERRIBLE calls away from being an Arkansas win. I'm not saying Florida isn't #1, but they definitely didn't come to play against Arkansas.

Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

USC needs to take every opponent serious. Looking at thier conference losses the past few years, it does NOT appear that way.

Lol yeah, an undefeated Auburn with a typical SEC schedule. They beat Louisiana Tech, Ball State, West Virginia, and a couple of crappy conference opponents in Tennessee and Miss St. They also lost to Kentucky this week, and Kentucky is garbage. So that's right ladies and gentlemen, Auburn can take a shit the entire rest of the season, and so long as they beat national powerhouse Furman they will take a trip to a bowl game. Way to be, SEC!