BCS RANKINGS OUT!!!!

[chalmers]

It's very annoying that the media and most fans only care about what like 5 teams do, and that no other team is allowed to play for a title or in a big game. Who cares if Iowa wins out and plays for the NC? They're a division 1 college football team. They're allowed to play the games too. Same goes for Cincy, or Boise State. The world doesn't revolve around Texas, Florida, and USC. If so, why do any of the other teams even play? Let's just have the college football season have only 3 teams then.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: chalmers
It's very annoying that the media and most fans only care about what like 5 teams do, and that no other team is allowed to play for a title or in a big game. Who cares if Iowa wins out and plays for the NC? They're a division 1 college football team. They're allowed to play the games too. Same goes for Cincy, or Boise State. The world doesn't revolve around Texas, Florida, and USC. If so, why do any of the other teams even play? Let's just have the college football season have only 3 teams then.

It shouldn't, but it does.

See Auburn, 2004.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

The PI call was legit, sorry, but the UR was a joke. You can't touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.

Yeah you can. It was an underthrown ball and the DB turned to make a play on it. There was nothing wrong. If that BS was supposed to be called like that, every QB would intentionally underthrow the ball and let the WR get a pass interference call on every down. It was a weak sauce pussy ass call. Not nearly as bad as the personal foul on the next play though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3Xq9BXu8c

Yet again the wrong video is posted. Try this one out.

He bumps the WR so he is not able to catch the ball. The call on the field was the defender was not playing the ball. Try again but it is pass interference.

Please keep using the "f word" to over emphasize your points that are not worth it.

What do you mean yet again the wrong video was posted? Are you retarded? Look at the last sentence of my post. I said the PI call wasn't as bad as the personal foul call, then I proceeded to post a video of the personal foul call.

And that mickey mouse call is NOT pass interference. Listen to Herbstreit, even he thinks that's a bogus call.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

I am glad I can provide you with some entertainment. Until we have a playoff in college football, rarely will the true nation champion be 100% correct. The BCS comes close but will not be 100%. KSU was unfortunately a team that could beat everyone they were supposed to but when it came to playing good teams, I would be surprised if they won 3 out of 20 games. They were overrated and overhyped and thus just were not a good football team despite their over bloated record every year. An 8-6 team is not great by any means no matter how you look at it.

I retracted when I saidi all HORRIBLE teams, it was in a post, but the fact remains most have been HORRIBLE nonetheless. I also said USC should have won at least 3 national titles in this decade but they have not. I would have loved to see USC play Florida last year instead of the overhyped OK team that ran the score up on EVERY team they played.

Talking football is fun !!!

Well, they managed to beat a USC team with Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, Justin Fargas, Oscar Lua, Sultan McCoullough, Marcell Almond, and about two dozen other future NFL players, so I wouldn't say they were that overrated.

It was fun to root for KSU but they just were not that good man, sorry. That must be 1 out of the 3 good teams they actually managed to beat.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

It shouldn't, but it does.

See Auburn, 2004.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.c...art-will-tell-you.html

auburn is way above SC


hook 'em

(texas just added ~15,000 seats for this season too)

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: destrekor
this year all my dreams have been crushed. Thanks for a great senior year OSU.

Wow, that's just sad.

Resting all of your dreams on a Sophomore QB who still thinks he can stiff arm and break away from any D lineman/linebacker is not a good idea

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Adrenaline
Florida had 4 turnovers, some were really bad. They won the game though with 4 turnovers to 0. Arkansas may not be ranked, but they are a good team. Didn't they beat undefeated Auburn the week before? Arkansas can run the score up in a hurry on any team. Florida dropped in the polls because of the way they played, but they still won the game.

I caught part of the Florida-Arkansas game and the refs gave the game to the Gators. That pass interference call followed by the unnecessary roughness call allowed Florida to score their tying TD.

The PI call was legit, sorry, but the UR was a joke. You can't touch a person before the ball gets there right in front of a ref and expect him to just let it slide.

Yeah you can. It was an underthrown ball and the DB turned to make a play on it. There was nothing wrong. If that BS was supposed to be called like that, every QB would intentionally underthrow the ball and let the WR get a pass interference call on every down. It was a weak sauce pussy ass call. Not nearly as bad as the personal foul on the next play though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3Xq9BXu8c

Yet again the wrong video is posted. Try this one out.

He bumps the WR so he is not able to catch the ball. The call on the field was the defender was not playing the ball. Try again but it is pass interference.

Please keep using the "f word" to over emphasize your points that are not worth it.

What do you mean yet again the wrong video was posted? Are you retarded? Look at the last sentence of my post. I said the PI call wasn't as bad as the personal foul call, then I proceeded to post a video of the personal foul call.

And that mickey mouse call is NOT pass interference. Listen to Herbstreit, even he thinks that's a bogus call.

I did not read the last sentence on that post as I was looking through youtube looking for the PI call. I already stated that UR call was crap if you had actually read everything from all of my previous posts which obviously you have not.

That PI was legit, the call was made for the defender not playing the ball when it was in the air like he was supposed to. It wasn't a bogus call. The defender bumped into the WR while not looking at the ball when the WR possibly could have made a play on the ball. The WR was looking at the ball and the DB was not would be the reason for the PI call.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

I am glad I can provide you with some entertainment. Until we have a playoff in college football, rarely will the true nation champion be 100% correct. The BCS comes close but will not be 100%. KSU was unfortunately a team that could beat everyone they were supposed to but when it came to playing good teams, I would be surprised if they won 3 out of 20 games. They were overrated and overhyped and thus just were not a good football team despite their over bloated record every year. An 8-6 team is not great by any means no matter how you look at it.

I retracted when I saidi all HORRIBLE teams, it was in a post, but the fact remains most have been HORRIBLE nonetheless. I also said USC should have won at least 3 national titles in this decade but they have not. I would have loved to see USC play Florida last year instead of the overhyped OK team that ran the score up on EVERY team they played.

Talking football is fun !!!

Well, they managed to beat a USC team with Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, Justin Fargas, Oscar Lua, Sultan McCoullough, Marcell Almond, and about two dozen other future NFL players, so I wouldn't say they were that overrated.

It was fun to root for KSU but they just were not that good man, sorry. That must be 1 out of the 3 good teams they actually managed to beat.

Have you ever taken an IQ test or been evaluated by a psychologist? You are either crazy, or just plain stupid.


"With an 11?4 record in 2003, Kansas State became the only team in the country to win 11 games in six of the previous seven years, and just the second program in the history of college football to win 11 games six times in a seven-year stretch."

" The 1993 bowl game was the first of 11 consecutive bowl games during Snyder's 17 seasons at Kansas State. Kansas State went to bowl games every season from 1993?2003, one of just seven schools to do so. K-State won six of those bowl games."

"During the 1998 season, Kansas State posted an undefeated 11?0 regular season and earned its first ever number 1 ranking in the national polls"

 

[SuRgEoN]

Originally posted by: jEnus
I'm a BSU Fan and Alumni. I will admit that I don't think we deserve the 4th spot, especially after the last two showings (against Tulsa & UC Davis). I am looking forward to the weeks ahead, especially putting crushing blow on Idaho.

Whatever jEnus... haha. Hope you are well man.

 

[CPA]

Anyone questioning the Big East needs to look at the numbers: 2nd in RPI and basically tied with SOS with Big Ten. Essentially Big Ten and Big East play the same caliber of teams, but the Big East does better, much better. Mind you, even that horrible Syracuse team is 1-2 against the Big Ten (with a narrow loss to Minnesota). Big Ten is overrated......again.

At least can everyone admit that the ACC is horrible this year?

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: CPA
Anyone questioning the Big East needs to look at the numbers: 2nd in RPI and basically tied with SOS with Big Ten. Essentially Big Ten and Big East play the same caliber of teams, but the Big East does better, much better. Mind you, even that horrible Syracuse team is 1-2 against the Big Ten (with a narrow loss to Minnesota). Big Ten is overrated......again.

At least can everyone admit that the ACC is horrible this year?

I am an ACC fan and they are not that great this year.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: CPA
Anyone questioning the Big East needs to look at the numbers: 2nd in RPI and basically tied with SOS with Big Ten. Essentially Big Ten and Big East play the same caliber of teams, but the Big East does better, much better. Mind you, even that horrible Syracuse team is 1-2 against the Big Ten (with a narrow loss to Minnesota). Big Ten is overrated......again.

At least can everyone admit that the ACC is horrible this year?

I am an ACC fan and they are not that great this year.

Well, at least the Coastal division is interesting this year with a three way tie. The Atlantic division is a joke however. The ACC Championship game is shaping up to be a big downer.

 

[thegimp03]

BSU doesn't play a team that's worth jack shit. They wouldn't beat about half of the teams who're ranked below them.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: thegimp03
BSU doesn't play a team that's worth jack shit. They wouldn't beat about half of the teams who're ranked below them.

Like Oregon?

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

2002 - 2 losses. WSU was ok then but KSU was ALWAYS overrated and played nobody EVER
WSU played the Rose Bowl game on 1/1 and lost to Oklahoma
KSU played the Holiday Bowl game on 12/27 and beat Arizona State
2003 - a 6 loss team
2004 - YAY
2005 - I have no idea how they lost to run all over the place while bing a horrible passer Young. I was rooting for them to win. I can't stand Texas.
2006 - a 4 loss team and 5 loss team
2007 - LOL
2008 - a 4 loss team that was actually decent, didn't they run the ball all over USC? (Florida lost to Ole Miss a 4 loss team by a blocked extra point for a 1 point defeat and Oklahoma lost to Texas, don't recall the score)
2009 - Washington? Really?

They lose to HORRIBLE teams. A 4 loss team in college is not that great, sorry. Have a quality loss and it can be acceptable, but some of the teams listed should NOT have beaten USC. Only one or two teams have played in the NCG with a 2 loss record. But yeah, grats on the NC in 2004 and what should have been in 2005 but USC loses games they should win when they should not. I just get tired of hearing about them year in and year out when they lose to a bad team and then complain about playing in the Rose Bowl when other teams handle their business.

If USC had handled Washington like they should have, then we would not even be talking about this right now. USC for some reason has a total oddball loss in their conference to some team not even close to their level.

Maybe I should not have said "every year" but it has come pretty close. It is sad to see. Washington is not any good this year and neither is Notre Dame, sorry.

Saying Washington is better this year is like saying the Detroit Lions are better this year. It is bound to happen but they are still horrible.

Who has been better since 2002 from a consistency standpoint?

You didn't answer my question. Who has consistently been better than USC since 2002.

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

I am glad I can provide you with some entertainment. Until we have a playoff in college football, rarely will the true nation champion be 100% correct. The BCS comes close but will not be 100%. KSU was unfortunately a team that could beat everyone they were supposed to but when it came to playing good teams, I would be surprised if they won 3 out of 20 games. They were overrated and overhyped and thus just were not a good football team despite their over bloated record every year. An 8-6 team is not great by any means no matter how you look at it.

I retracted when I saidi all HORRIBLE teams, it was in a post, but the fact remains most have been HORRIBLE nonetheless. I also said USC should have won at least 3 national titles in this decade but they have not. I would have loved to see USC play Florida last year instead of the overhyped OK team that ran the score up on EVERY team they played.

Talking football is fun !!!

Apparently not fun enough to answer my question.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Apparently not fun enough to answer my question.

none, but then again the pac10 has been pretty much just a means to get usc into a bcs game, as the ACC used to be just a way for FSU to play in a bowl alliance/bcs game for about a decade.

 

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by: CPA
Anyone questioning the Big East needs to look at the numbers: 2nd in RPI and basically tied with SOS with Big Ten. Essentially Big Ten and Big East play the same caliber of teams, but the Big East does better, much better. Mind you, even that horrible Syracuse team is 1-2 against the Big Ten (with a narrow loss to Minnesota). Big Ten is overrated......again.

At least can everyone admit that the ACC is horrible this year?

How can the ACC be horrible when you've got teams at 10 UM,12 GT,14 VT?

#10 lost to #14 only.
#12 lost to #10 only.
#14 lost to #12 and #2.

I'll give you the bottom of the division is garbage, but the coastal division is pretty damn loaded. GT will roll over UGA again this year. GT will also have played 3 SEC teams in its OOC schedule this year.

VT didn't fair poorly against Bama.

Miami beat OU who played a damn close game with #3 UT.

I'll put Miami or GT against Cinci any day.

 

[lupi]

big 10 sucks, big 12 sucks, USC got a lucky ref review or their game against ND would have gone to OT, big east is a bcs conference in name only and acc can't get out of their own way. should just let the uf-bama winner be crowned champ then.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: thepd7


Apparently not fun enough to answer my question.

Maybe Texas and OU are close along with Urban Meyer teams in general. (I did not look at records or anything, just a quick guess.) It is disheartening for USC fans to see their team have these bad losses. But the question was "consistently better" over that time span and those are just it. But looking at a year to year basis USC just has some huge disappointments, thats why quality losses matter more than a team outright upsetting them. I also said USC should have won 3 national titles this decade.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

I am glad I can provide you with some entertainment. Until we have a playoff in college football, rarely will the true nation champion be 100% correct. The BCS comes close but will not be 100%. KSU was unfortunately a team that could beat everyone they were supposed to but when it came to playing good teams, I would be surprised if they won 3 out of 20 games. They were overrated and overhyped and thus just were not a good football team despite their over bloated record every year. An 8-6 team is not great by any means no matter how you look at it.

I retracted when I saidi all HORRIBLE teams, it was in a post, but the fact remains most have been HORRIBLE nonetheless. I also said USC should have won at least 3 national titles in this decade but they have not. I would have loved to see USC play Florida last year instead of the overhyped OK team that ran the score up on EVERY team they played.

Talking football is fun !!!

Well, they managed to beat a USC team with Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, Justin Fargas, Oscar Lua, Sultan McCoullough, Marcell Almond, and about two dozen other future NFL players, so I wouldn't say they were that overrated.

It was fun to root for KSU but they just were not that good man, sorry. That must be 1 out of the 3 good teams they actually managed to beat.

Have you ever taken an IQ test or been evaluated by a psychologist? You are either crazy, or just plain stupid.


"With an 11?4 record in 2003, Kansas State became the only team in the country to win 11 games in six of the previous seven years, and just the second program in the history of college football to win 11 games six times in a seven-year stretch."

" The 1993 bowl game was the first of 11 consecutive bowl games during Snyder's 17 seasons at Kansas State. Kansas State went to bowl games every season from 1993?2003, one of just seven schools to do so. K-State won six of those bowl games."

"During the 1998 season, Kansas State posted an undefeated 11?0 regular season and earned its first ever number 1 ranking in the national polls"

KSU was overrated. Here you go. Lost to #10 A&M and then to unranked Purdue which was an ok team from the big 10 that year. Did not beat anyone higher than #11. They did not even play in a BCS game that year either, hooray Alamo Bowl. Shows just how much the BCS people thought of that #4 overrated team also.

As far as IQ tests, I actually scored rather well. I have a good sense of logic and reason. Keep insulting me and cussing at me because I find it amusing.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
I'll give you the bottom of the division is garbage, but the coastal division is pretty damn loaded. GT will roll over UGA again this year. GT will also have played 3 SEC teams in its OOC schedule this year.

VT didn't fair poorly against Bama.

Miami beat OU who played a damn close game with #3 UT.

I'll put Miami or GT against Cinci any day.

Things are going to get really interesting at UGa if GT does roll them (and they probably will). Richt is going to be under a lot of pressure to fire his DC at the very least. They might be giving Will Muschamp a call.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

I am glad I can provide you with some entertainment. Until we have a playoff in college football, rarely will the true nation champion be 100% correct. The BCS comes close but will not be 100%. KSU was unfortunately a team that could beat everyone they were supposed to but when it came to playing good teams, I would be surprised if they won 3 out of 20 games. They were overrated and overhyped and thus just were not a good football team despite their over bloated record every year. An 8-6 team is not great by any means no matter how you look at it.

I retracted when I saidi all HORRIBLE teams, it was in a post, but the fact remains most have been HORRIBLE nonetheless. I also said USC should have won at least 3 national titles in this decade but they have not. I would have loved to see USC play Florida last year instead of the overhyped OK team that ran the score up on EVERY team they played.

Talking football is fun !!!

Well, they managed to beat a USC team with Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, Justin Fargas, Oscar Lua, Sultan McCoullough, Marcell Almond, and about two dozen other future NFL players, so I wouldn't say they were that overrated.

It was fun to root for KSU but they just were not that good man, sorry. That must be 1 out of the 3 good teams they actually managed to beat.

Have you ever taken an IQ test or been evaluated by a psychologist? You are either crazy, or just plain stupid.


"With an 11?4 record in 2003, Kansas State became the only team in the country to win 11 games in six of the previous seven years, and just the second program in the history of college football to win 11 games six times in a seven-year stretch."

" The 1993 bowl game was the first of 11 consecutive bowl games during Snyder's 17 seasons at Kansas State. Kansas State went to bowl games every season from 1993?2003, one of just seven schools to do so. K-State won six of those bowl games."

"During the 1998 season, Kansas State posted an undefeated 11?0 regular season and earned its first ever number 1 ranking in the national polls"

KSU was overrated. Here you go. Lost to #10 A&M and then to unranked Purdue which was an ok team from the big 10 that year. Did not beat anyone higher than #11. They did not even play in a BCS game that year either, hooray Alamo Bowl. Shows just how much the BCS people thought of that #4 overrated team also.

As far as IQ tests, I actually scored rather well. I have a good sense of logic and reason. Keep insulting me and cussing at me because I find it amusing.

Apparently that sense of logic and reason doesn't translate to football knowledge.

Texas A&M beat two #1 teams that year, and were the Big 12 Champions. They needed two overtimes to beat KSU. That "ok" Purdue team was quarterbacked by a guy who goes by the name Brees. They were a little more than "ok".

So KSU loses one game by three in double overtime to the Big 12 champs, and lose by three to a top 25 team on a last minute drive led by Drew Brees and they are overrated? You are insane.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

I am glad I can provide you with some entertainment. Until we have a playoff in college football, rarely will the true nation champion be 100% correct. The BCS comes close but will not be 100%. KSU was unfortunately a team that could beat everyone they were supposed to but when it came to playing good teams, I would be surprised if they won 3 out of 20 games. They were overrated and overhyped and thus just were not a good football team despite their over bloated record every year. An 8-6 team is not great by any means no matter how you look at it.

I retracted when I saidi all HORRIBLE teams, it was in a post, but the fact remains most have been HORRIBLE nonetheless. I also said USC should have won at least 3 national titles in this decade but they have not. I would have loved to see USC play Florida last year instead of the overhyped OK team that ran the score up on EVERY team they played.

Talking football is fun !!!

Well, they managed to beat a USC team with Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, Justin Fargas, Oscar Lua, Sultan McCoullough, Marcell Almond, and about two dozen other future NFL players, so I wouldn't say they were that overrated.

It was fun to root for KSU but they just were not that good man, sorry. That must be 1 out of the 3 good teams they actually managed to beat.

Have you ever taken an IQ test or been evaluated by a psychologist? You are either crazy, or just plain stupid.


"With an 11?4 record in 2003, Kansas State became the only team in the country to win 11 games in six of the previous seven years, and just the second program in the history of college football to win 11 games six times in a seven-year stretch."

" The 1993 bowl game was the first of 11 consecutive bowl games during Snyder's 17 seasons at Kansas State. Kansas State went to bowl games every season from 1993?2003, one of just seven schools to do so. K-State won six of those bowl games."

"During the 1998 season, Kansas State posted an undefeated 11?0 regular season and earned its first ever number 1 ranking in the national polls"

KSU was overrated. Here you go. Lost to #10 A&M and then to unranked Purdue which was an ok team from the big 10 that year. Did not beat anyone higher than #11. They did not even play in a BCS game that year either, hooray Alamo Bowl. Shows just how much the BCS people thought of that #4 overrated team also.

As far as IQ tests, I actually scored rather well. I have a good sense of logic and reason. Keep insulting me and cussing at me because I find it amusing.

Apparently that sense of logic and reason doesn't translate to football knowledge.

Texas A&M beat two #1 teams that year, and were the Big 12 Champions. They needed two overtimes to beat KSU. That "ok" Purdue team was quarterbacked by a guy who goes by the name Brees. They were a little more than "ok".

So KSU loses one game by three in double overtime to the Big 12 champs, and lose by three to a top 25 team on a last minute drive led by Drew Brees and they are overrated? You are insane.

Purdue did not even win the Big 10 that year as they did not play in a BCS bowl game at all. Purdue was not even ranked until AFTER beating KSU in January. Do some research on stuff before you post things you apparently know nothing about (which seems to be a lot at this time). You comparing Drew Brees in college to Drew Brees in the pros at this time is a total joke. If he was great in college he wouldn't have lasted to the second round (pick one) that year. It appears only one QB was taken ahead of him, Vick, but every team passed on him after the #1 pick and fell to San Diego in the 2nd round.

Until you can come up with a plausible point-counterpoint discussion I will not bother replying to any more garbage you post. You obviously have no idea about college football. Keep pretending you do. Your Drew Brees point just nailed it on that.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Purdue did not even win the Big 10 that year as they did not play in a BCS bowl game at all. Purdue was not even ranked until AFTER beating KSU in January. Do some research on stuff before you post things you apparently know nothing about (which seems to be a lot at this time).

Your point: Purdue was not a top 25 team when the played KSU.

Counter point: They won 9 games, and ended the season in the top 25. Why would their ranking before the game matter? When it was all said and done, was Purdue not a top 25 team?

When Deshaun Foster was tearing it up at UCLA, Alabama was ranked #3 and came out to Pasadena to open the season. UCLA kicked the shit out of Bama, and every Bruin fan was stoked about the season. Turns out Bama went on to win three games all year (all 3 against SEC opponents), and UCLA went on to a 6-6 record. When the 2000 season was all said and done, it turns out that Alabama wasn't shit. Just as it turned out in 1998 that Purdue was a good team.

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

You comparing Drew Brees in college to Drew Brees in the pros at this time is a total joke. If he was great in college he wouldn't have lasted to the second round (pick one) that year. It appears only one QB was taken ahead of him, Vick, but every team passed on him after the #1 pick and fell to San Diego in the 2nd round.

Ok, this right here is all that is needed to prove your complete ignorance.

Your Point: "If he was great in college he wouldn't have lasted to the second round". You are saying that Drew Brees was not that great.

My Counterpoint: Holy shit, are you serious? The guy owns all the Big Ten passing records. He was on the top ten list of the NCAA's all-time passing leaders. He finished in the top five for the Heisman.... TWICE! He won the fricken Maxwell award! That means he was voted by the media and coaches as THE BEST player in all of football. You are unbelievable.

And where a player is drafted is irrelevant to their college performance. Tim Tebow might have two Heisman Trophys and three national championships by the time he is done, and he won't get drafted in the first three rounds. Chris Weinke beat Brees out for the Heisman in 2000, and he went in the fourth round. Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, he was passed up because he is not even 6ft tall?

Originally posted by: Adrenaline


Until you can come up with a plausible point-counterpoint discussion I will not bother replying to any more garbage you post. You obviously have no idea about college football. Keep pretending you do. Your Drew Brees point just nailed it on that.

I gave you my "counterpoints" to your "points", if that's what those things you wrote are. I played college football for a year. Very good friends of mine played all over the Pac 10 and a couple in the SEC. Four of my friends played in the NFL, 3 of them still do, and two of them are starters. I've played the game, played it with and against some elite talent, and will be around it for the rest of my life.

For you to say that MY point on Drew Brees proves I know nothing about football is about the most outrageous thing I've ever heard in my life.

 

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

Purdue did not even win the Big 10 that year as they did not play in a BCS bowl game at all. Purdue was not even ranked until AFTER beating KSU in January. Do some research on stuff before you post things you apparently know nothing about (which seems to be a lot at this time).

Your point: Purdue was not a top 25 team when the played KSU.

Counter point: They won 9 games, and ended the season in the top 25. Why would their ranking before the game matter? When it was all said and done, was Purdue not a top 25 team?

When Deshaun Foster was tearing it up at UCLA, Alabama was ranked #3 and came out to Pasadena to open the season. UCLA kicked the shit out of Bama, and every Bruin fan was stoked about the season. Turns out Bama went on to win three games all year (all 3 against SEC opponents), and UCLA went on to a 6-6 record. When the 2000 season was all said and done, it turns out that Alabama wasn't shit. Just as it turned out in 1998 that Purdue was a good team.

Originally posted by: Adrenaline

You comparing Drew Brees in college to Drew Brees in the pros at this time is a total joke. If he was great in college he wouldn't have lasted to the second round (pick one) that year. It appears only one QB was taken ahead of him, Vick, but every team passed on him after the #1 pick and fell to San Diego in the 2nd round.

Ok, this right here is all that is needed to prove your complete ignorance.

Your Point: "If he was great in college he wouldn't have lasted to the second round". You are saying that Drew Brees was not that great.

My Counterpoint: Holy shit, are you serious? The guy owns all the Big Ten passing records. He was on the top ten list of the NCAA's all-time passing leaders. He finished in the top five for the Heisman.... TWICE! He won the fricken Maxwell award! That means he was voted by the media and coaches as THE BEST player in all of football. You are unbelievable.

And where a player is drafted is irrelevant to their college performance. Tim Tebow might have two Heisman Trophys and three national championships by the time he is done, and he won't get drafted in the first three rounds. Chris Weinke beat Brees out for the Heisman in 2000, and he went in the fourth round. Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, he was passed up because he is not even 6ft tall?

Originally posted by: Adrenaline


Until you can come up with a plausible point-counterpoint discussion I will not bother replying to any more garbage you post. You obviously have no idea about college football. Keep pretending you do. Your Drew Brees point just nailed it on that.

I gave you my "counterpoints" to your "points", if that's what those things you wrote are. I played college football for a year. Very good friends of mine played all over the Pac 10 and a couple in the SEC. Four of my friends played in the NFL, 3 of them still do, and two of them are starters. I've played the game, played it with and against some elite talent, and will be around it for the rest of my life.

For you to say that MY point on Drew Brees proves I know nothing about football is about the most outrageous thing I've ever heard in my life.

/yawn

Brees did not even start his rookie year from what I read from one place, will not bother looking it up elsewhere. He was good in college (team was "ok" the year in question), but has become phenomenal in the NFL. Point is you seem to be equating Brees in college to Brees in the pros now and he is far far far better now than he was in college. I am a Brees fan and always have been. I am well aware of what he did in college. I will stop bothering. Keep "proving" points, I will read but not respond anymore. Played college football for one year and have a hard time "proving" points other than lashing out and calling names or talking down to people.

Anyone else have something important to start a discussion about? I would be up for some good discussions.

Edit:

I skimmed your post, but Tebow not getting drafted in the first 3 rounds we shall see. You're saying Tebow won't go on the first day then. Have fun.