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destrekor

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
http://www.sundaymorningqb.com...y/2007/12/3/12023/0450

No, no, not again. The worst result of last year's mythical championship game was the growth and perpetuation of this absurd notion of superior "SEC speed," based not on the collective 40 times and shuttle drills of hundreds of players on a couple dozen teams that make up the SEC and Big Ten, but on a handful of plays in a single game that was decidedly outside the season-long patterns of both participants, and not demonstrably decided by "speed" (unless you're willing to suggest Tennessee and Arkansas were done in a week earlier by "speed," too, which was at least as plausible). These conferences need to play more often.

Anyway, then, the foolish geographical chest-thumping only lasted a few days before the onset of the offseason relegated it to the safe obscurity of message boards and occasional comment thread. This time, do not expect the partisan sons of the South to fall quiet at any point over the next month prior to the Buckeyes' "rematch" (ugh) with LSU; for a sampling of the inane vitriol to come, check this comment thread, or any SEC board, or let the usually sage Gator fans at Saurian Sagacity sum it up in a series of smug that doesn't even apply to their own team:

One would think the false sense of inevitability that followed Ohio State prior to last year's championship (or USC the year before that, or that very, very fast Miami team in 2002, or, I don't know, LSU, Ohio State, West Virginia, USC, Oregon, Michigan, Oklahoma, California, Florida or LSU again prior to stunning upsets over the last three months) would demonstrate the virtues of humility to fans everywhere, and lead them to stop for a second to recognize - last year's anomalous championship beatdown is a great example of this - that anything can happen in one game, on one night, and "anything" will not necessarily reconcile itself with the accumulation of disparate performances that precedes it. It only adds to the accumulation; it doesn't define it. Based on everything we know from the dozen "samples" on both sides leading up to last January, that Florida team couldn't beat that Ohio State team by 27 points again in a whole season of trying. There's a reason the Gators were underdogs, and it's not because they kept the fast guys under wraps when squeaking out wins against South Carolina and Vanderbilt.

Based on everything we know from both teams' performances this season, Ohio State and LSU should be a close, hard-hitting game between two of the few teams that still operate largely from traditional two-back sets on offense and do not hesitate to run old-fashioned isos, counters and traps into the line. It's an interesting collision of style and persona between loose cannon Les Miles and icy, understated mercenary Jim Tressel, and their emphases on emotion, "poise" (as Miles likes to repeat to his oft-flagged charges) and discipline. But it will be decided by the side that executes and catches the right breaks under the specific set of circumstances that unfold on Jan. 7, at which point, of course, that team will be instantly refashioned into gold-drenched superheroes with inherent abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Naturally: We are the champions! These are the myths we make.

But the athletes, the speed, all of that is a given. LSU and Ohio State have both turned in top ten recrutiting classes each of the last four seasons. They've all got the athletes. They've all got the speed. The differences in raw talent on this level are nil. This championship, like all championships, will be about combining management, strategy and execution in the moment, and probably a bounce or timely flag or two. Not as catchy as "SEC Speed," but anything more precise than wrongheaded, bumper sticker hubris rarely is.

You just quoted some random dudes blog?

the best point that is brought up though:
anything can happen in a single game. this season proves that. and was proved with Florida last year. OSU did not play like how OSU played in the regular season, they were sloppy, and were also missing Ginn. Now true, the offense was heavily built around Ginn last year, and that changed this year with introducing numerous capable players, but our beloved Beanie Wells definitely wants to fill in for the lack of Ginn.
either way, many times over an underdog will win a game, but the same number of times the poll favorite will likely win too. It's the consequence of single-game plays.
It would have been cool to play USC in the Rose Bowl, because OSU players USC next year too. That's hopefully gonna stand out amongst the shitty non-conference games scheduled around it: Youngstown, Ohio University, and Troy. seriously? blah
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
http://www.sundaymorningqb.com...y/2007/12/3/12023/0450

No, no, not again. The worst result of last year's mythical championship game was the growth and perpetuation of this absurd notion of superior "SEC speed," based not on the collective 40 times and shuttle drills of hundreds of players on a couple dozen teams that make up the SEC and Big Ten, but on a handful of plays in a single game that was decidedly outside the season-long patterns of both participants, and not demonstrably decided by "speed" (unless you're willing to suggest Tennessee and Arkansas were done in a week earlier by "speed," too, which was at least as plausible). These conferences need to play more often.

Anyway, then, the foolish geographical chest-thumping only lasted a few days before the onset of the offseason relegated it to the safe obscurity of message boards and occasional comment thread. This time, do not expect the partisan sons of the South to fall quiet at any point over the next month prior to the Buckeyes' "rematch" (ugh) with LSU; for a sampling of the inane vitriol to come, check this comment thread, or any SEC board, or let the usually sage Gator fans at Saurian Sagacity sum it up in a series of smug that doesn't even apply to their own team:

One would think the false sense of inevitability that followed Ohio State prior to last year's championship (or USC the year before that, or that very, very fast Miami team in 2002, or, I don't know, LSU, Ohio State, West Virginia, USC, Oregon, Michigan, Oklahoma, California, Florida or LSU again prior to stunning upsets over the last three months) would demonstrate the virtues of humility to fans everywhere, and lead them to stop for a second to recognize - last year's anomalous championship beatdown is a great example of this - that anything can happen in one game, on one night, and "anything" will not necessarily reconcile itself with the accumulation of disparate performances that precedes it. It only adds to the accumulation; it doesn't define it. Based on everything we know from the dozen "samples" on both sides leading up to last January, that Florida team couldn't beat that Ohio State team by 27 points again in a whole season of trying. There's a reason the Gators were underdogs, and it's not because they kept the fast guys under wraps when squeaking out wins against South Carolina and Vanderbilt.

Based on everything we know from both teams' performances this season, Ohio State and LSU should be a close, hard-hitting game between two of the few teams that still operate largely from traditional two-back sets on offense and do not hesitate to run old-fashioned isos, counters and traps into the line. It's an interesting collision of style and persona between loose cannon Les Miles and icy, understated mercenary Jim Tressel, and their emphases on emotion, "poise" (as Miles likes to repeat to his oft-flagged charges) and discipline. But it will be decided by the side that executes and catches the right breaks under the specific set of circumstances that unfold on Jan. 7, at which point, of course, that team will be instantly refashioned into gold-drenched superheroes with inherent abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Naturally: We are the champions! These are the myths we make.

But the athletes, the speed, all of that is a given. LSU and Ohio State have both turned in top ten recrutiting classes each of the last four seasons. They've all got the athletes. They've all got the speed. The differences in raw talent on this level are nil. This championship, like all championships, will be about combining management, strategy and execution in the moment, and probably a bounce or timely flag or two. Not as catchy as "SEC Speed," but anything more precise than wrongheaded, bumper sticker hubris rarely is.

You just quoted some random dudes blog?

the best point that is brought up though:
anything can happen in a single game. this season proves that. and was proved with Florida last year. OSU did not play like how OSU played in the regular season, they were sloppy, and were also missing Ginn. Now true, the offense was heavily built around Ginn last year, and that changed this year with introducing numerous capable players, but our beloved Beanie Wells definitely wants to fill in for the lack of Ginn.
either way, many times over an underdog will win a game, but the same number of times the poll favorite will likely win too. It's the consequence of single-game plays.
It would have been cool to play USC in the Rose Bowl, because OSU players USC next year too. That's hopefully gonna stand out amongst the shitty non-conference games scheduled around it: Youngstown, Ohio University, and Troy. seriously? blah

usc/osu would definitely have been a good matchup. i cant imagine how missouri fans feel , being #1 in the country one week and playing in the cotton bowl the week after,
 

JasonCoder

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: preslove
LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

Right. That's why the Big10 actually had a winning record against the SEC in bowl games last year.

that's because of the bowl scheduling doing big 10 #3 team vs sec #5 team and crap like that.

Well then maybe the conference should send its #3 team to play the others #3 team. Don't they teach comparison (<, >, =) operations in the SEC?

Last year the Big10 sent two teams to BCS games. This left the #3 Big10 team (#5 ranked Wisky) for the CapitalOne bowl. They played - and beat - Arkansas who was the SEC West champ. Penn State punked Tennessee in the Outback bowl but I have no idea what number they were in the SEC.

So your blanket statement has at least one hole in it. Not that this will dissuade you from somehow thinking up a reason the SEC is god's gift to college football.

How did those Big10 teams far in the BCS games? How convenient those 2 results are left out while you boast about wins in lower bowl games.

I also didn't point out the Gross Domestic Product of Indochina or the average air speed of a fully laden swallow. WTF does that have to do with the point I was making? Reading comprehension FTL.

Gee, even with those loses the Big10 still had a winning record against the SEC. If anything you further strengthened my point. I give up...
 

JasonCoder

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
http://www.sundaymorningqb.com...y/2007/12/3/12023/0450

No, no, not again. The worst result of last year's mythical championship game was the growth and perpetuation of this absurd notion of superior "SEC speed," based not on the collective 40 times and shuttle drills of hundreds of players on a couple dozen teams that make up the SEC and Big Ten, but on a handful of plays in a single game that was decidedly outside the season-long patterns of both participants, and not demonstrably decided by "speed" (unless you're willing to suggest Tennessee and Arkansas were done in a week earlier by "speed," too, which was at least as plausible). These conferences need to play more often.

Anyway, then, the foolish geographical chest-thumping only lasted a few days before the onset of the offseason relegated it to the safe obscurity of message boards and occasional comment thread. This time, do not expect the partisan sons of the South to fall quiet at any point over the next month prior to the Buckeyes' "rematch" (ugh) with LSU; for a sampling of the inane vitriol to come, check this comment thread, or any SEC board, or let the usually sage Gator fans at Saurian Sagacity sum it up in a series of smug that doesn't even apply to their own team:

One would think the false sense of inevitability that followed Ohio State prior to last year's championship (or USC the year before that, or that very, very fast Miami team in 2002, or, I don't know, LSU, Ohio State, West Virginia, USC, Oregon, Michigan, Oklahoma, California, Florida or LSU again prior to stunning upsets over the last three months) would demonstrate the virtues of humility to fans everywhere, and lead them to stop for a second to recognize - last year's anomalous championship beatdown is a great example of this - that anything can happen in one game, on one night, and "anything" will not necessarily reconcile itself with the accumulation of disparate performances that precedes it. It only adds to the accumulation; it doesn't define it. Based on everything we know from the dozen "samples" on both sides leading up to last January, that Florida team couldn't beat that Ohio State team by 27 points again in a whole season of trying. There's a reason the Gators were underdogs, and it's not because they kept the fast guys under wraps when squeaking out wins against South Carolina and Vanderbilt.

Based on everything we know from both teams' performances this season, Ohio State and LSU should be a close, hard-hitting game between two of the few teams that still operate largely from traditional two-back sets on offense and do not hesitate to run old-fashioned isos, counters and traps into the line. It's an interesting collision of style and persona between loose cannon Les Miles and icy, understated mercenary Jim Tressel, and their emphases on emotion, "poise" (as Miles likes to repeat to his oft-flagged charges) and discipline. But it will be decided by the side that executes and catches the right breaks under the specific set of circumstances that unfold on Jan. 7, at which point, of course, that team will be instantly refashioned into gold-drenched superheroes with inherent abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Naturally: We are the champions! These are the myths we make.

But the athletes, the speed, all of that is a given. LSU and Ohio State have both turned in top ten recrutiting classes each of the last four seasons. They've all got the athletes. They've all got the speed. The differences in raw talent on this level are nil. This championship, like all championships, will be about combining management, strategy and execution in the moment, and probably a bounce or timely flag or two. Not as catchy as "SEC Speed," but anything more precise than wrongheaded, bumper sticker hubris rarely is.

You just quoted some random dudes blog?

the best point that is brought up though:
anything can happen in a single game. this season proves that. and was proved with Florida last year. OSU did not play like how OSU played in the regular season, they were sloppy, and were also missing Ginn. Now true, the offense was heavily built around Ginn last year, and that changed this year with introducing numerous capable players, but our beloved Beanie Wells definitely wants to fill in for the lack of Ginn.
either way, many times over an underdog will win a game, but the same number of times the poll favorite will likely win too. It's the consequence of single-game plays.
It would have been cool to play USC in the Rose Bowl, because OSU players USC next year too. That's hopefully gonna stand out amongst the shitty non-conference games scheduled around it: Youngstown, Ohio University, and Troy. seriously? blah

I never agreed about Ginn being the centerpeice of the offense last year. A very strong part, yeah definitely. I thought Gonzo was better than Ginn. But yeah win Ginn goes down it's a bad thing and Gonzo just gets more attention.

Wow, we scheduled Troy? Bleh... Heh, USC and Troy in the same year.

Don't sleep on OU or YSU. OU plays the BCS tough. And isn't YSU entering the FBS soon? It's all part of the in state outreach program we have at OSU.
 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: JasonCoder

I never agreed about Ginn being the centerpeice of the offense last year. A very strong part, yeah definitely. I thought Gonzo was better than Ginn. But yeah win Ginn goes down it's a bad thing and Gonzo just gets more attention.

Wow, we scheduled Troy? Bleh... Heh, USC and Troy in the same year.

Don't sleep on OU or YSU. OU plays the BCS tough. And isn't YSU entering the FBS soon? It's all part of the in state outreach program we have at OSU.

Troy was second in their conference this year, and is much better then any of the non-conference teams OSU played this year. Therefore, much better then Bleh.
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: JasonCoder

I never agreed about Ginn being the centerpeice of the offense last year. A very strong part, yeah definitely. I thought Gonzo was better than Ginn. But yeah win Ginn goes down it's a bad thing and Gonzo just gets more attention.

Wow, we scheduled Troy? Bleh... Heh, USC and Troy in the same year.

Don't sleep on OU or YSU. OU plays the BCS tough. And isn't YSU entering the FBS soon? It's all part of the in state outreach program we have at OSU.

Troy was second in their conference this year, and is much better then any of the non-conference teams OSU played this year. Therefore, much better then Bleh.

Hey, Troy beat OSU this year! Text:beer:
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Robor
How did those Big10 teams far in the BCS games? How convenient those 2 results are left out while you boast about wins in lower bowl games.
Florida whooped on tOSU.
USC whooped on Michigan.
 

Bob151

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: preslove
LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

Right. That's why the Big10 actually had a winning record against the SEC in bowl games last year.

that's because of the bowl scheduling doing big 10 #3 team vs sec #5 team and crap like that.

Team selection in bowls isn't always perfect. Schools with traveling fans are highly sought. And teams follow the best financial offer. Therefore it isn't always #3 v #3.

Case in point, Wisconsin, the Big Ten #4 is going to be playing the SEC East Champion, Tennessee in the Outback Bowl. As Tennessee was the SEC East Champ and had a better record than any SEC West team besides the one that is going to the NC, LSU, I believe that makes them the 2nd best team in all the SEC.

So, there you have it #4 Big Ten v #2 SEC.

I am sure that all of you will be completely objective and are not going to be thumping your chests when your SEC #2 beats the Big Ten #4 pointing and saying, "See! See! How strong we are!" After you have said that the previous year's victories by Big Ten schools over SEC schools don't really count due to the mismatch.
 

Bob151

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Oh, and here is another good one. The Champs Bowl.

Big Ten's #7 (Michigan State) v the ACC Atlantic Champion (Boston College). BC is tied for #2 with Virginia for the best record in the ACC, they didn't play VA this season.

MSU is rebuilding, last year they had a coach who hit himself durring a conference. Ouch!

Wasn't Boston College so good that they were once ranked #2 in the country to 2 weeks.

You see, there is no reason to think that just the SEC always ends up on the short end of the matchup.

I'm sure you will all be completely objective and not point while saying "See! See! Look, they lost!"
 

Bob151

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: preslove
LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

Right. That's why the Big10 actually had a winning record against the SEC in bowl games last year.

that's because of the bowl scheduling doing big 10 #3 team vs sec #5 team and crap like that.

Oh, wait, I just noticed something. You say that the Big Ten #3 played the SEC #5? Really?

Wisconsin was the Big Ten #3, they played Arkansas, who was the SEC West Champ. Hardly the SEC #5 you have portrayed them to be. Considering that AR was 7-1, the same record as the East Champ, Florida, I think that makes them #2 in the conference. So, it was really a #3 v #2.

Let's look at the other matchup, Penn State v Tennessee. PSU was the Big Ten #4. Tennessee looks like it was 2nd in the SEC East and their record points to an SEC #4 spot.

Here are some links for you to research your crap matchup claims.

http://www.secsports.com/new/s...c/06stats/confsked.htm

http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/...006-2007/confsked.html
 

hdeck

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Originally posted by: Bob151
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: preslove
LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

Right. That's why the Big10 actually had a winning record against the SEC in bowl games last year.

that's because of the bowl scheduling doing big 10 #3 team vs sec #5 team and crap like that.

Oh, wait, I just noticed something. You say that the Big Ten #3 played the SEC #5? Really?

Wisconsin was the Big Ten #3, they played Arkansas, who was the SEC West Champ. Hardly the SEC #5 you have portrayed them to be. Considering that AR was 7-1, the same record as the East Champ, Florida, I think that makes them #2 in the conference. So, it was really a #3 v #2.

Let's look at the other matchup, Penn State v Tennessee. PSU was the Big Ten #4. Tennessee looks like it was 2nd in the SEC East and their record points to an SEC #4 spot.

Here are some links for you to research your crap matchup claims.

http://www.secsports.com/new/s...c/06stats/confsked.htm

http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/...006-2007/confsked.html

if arkansas was #2 in the conference then why did the sugar bowl pick lsu over them?
 

Alkaline5

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Originally posted by: Bob151
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: preslove
LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

Right. That's why the Big10 actually had a winning record against the SEC in bowl games last year.

that's because of the bowl scheduling doing big 10 #3 team vs sec #5 team and crap like that.

Team selection in bowls isn't always perfect. Schools with traveling fans are highly sought. And teams follow the best financial offer. Therefore it isn't always #3 v #3.

Case in point, Wisconsin, the Big Ten #4 is going to be playing the SEC East Champion, Tennessee in the Outback Bowl. As Tennessee was the SEC East Champ and had a better record than any SEC West team besides the one that is going to the NC, LSU, I believe that makes them the 2nd best team in all the SEC.

So, there you have it #4 Big Ten v #2 SEC.

I am sure that all of you will be completely objective and are not going to be thumping your chests when your SEC #2 beats the Big Ten #4 pointing and saying, "See! See! How strong we are!" After you have said that the previous year's victories by Big Ten schools over SEC schools don't really count due to the mismatch.

Yes, by regular season conference record Tennesee is the second best team IN the SEC. However, when you evaluate the whole season they are about the 4th best FROM the SEC (according to the polls) having lost two games in addition to their 8-game conference record. For that reason, I would call this a pretty even matchup.

The same sort of thinking should be applied to the Wisconsin/Arkansas matchup a year ago, which you bring up in another post. A teams wins its division based on 2/3 of the games (sometimes less) that are played in the season. I know that the bowls evaluate the whole season when selecting matchups. Rather than look at only the facts that support your rantings, you should probably start to evaluate the overall picture, as well.
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: Bob151

Case in point, Wisconsin, the Big Ten #4 is going to be playing the SEC East Champion, Tennessee in the Outback Bowl. As Tennessee was the SEC East Champ and had a better record than any SEC West team besides the one that is going to the NC, LSU, I believe that makes them the 2nd best team in all the SEC.

So, there you have it #4 Big Ten v #2 SEC.

I can be objective and say UT is not the 2nd best team in the SEC. In fact, I'd rate them as #4 behind LSU, UGA and UF (maybe even Auburn) at this point in the season.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: Bob151
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: preslove
LSU is going to straight up murder osu this year. SEC schedules gnaw on great teams, slowing them down, injuring them, making them look bad. Then they get several weeks rest to heal up. Then they beat the shit out of teams from pansy ass conferences. This will be no different with LSU v osu.

Right. That's why the Big10 actually had a winning record against the SEC in bowl games last year.

that's because of the bowl scheduling doing big 10 #3 team vs sec #5 team and crap like that.

Oh, wait, I just noticed something. You say that the Big Ten #3 played the SEC #5? Really?

Wisconsin was the Big Ten #3, they played Arkansas, who was the SEC West Champ. Hardly the SEC #5 you have portrayed them to be. Considering that AR was 7-1, the same record as the East Champ, Florida, I think that makes them #2 in the conference. So, it was really a #3 v #2.

Let's look at the other matchup, Penn State v Tennessee. PSU was the Big Ten #4. Tennessee looks like it was 2nd in the SEC East and their record points to an SEC #4 spot.

Here are some links for you to research your crap matchup claims.

http://www.secsports.com/new/s...c/06stats/confsked.htm

http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/...006-2007/confsked.html

if arkansas was #2 in the conference then why did the sugar bowl pick lsu over them?

same reason kansas was picked over missouri, getting to a conference game in my mind makes you the 2nd best team in that conference if you loose in the conference championship game

bowls picking up teams are based on which team the bowl committee think will sell more tickets and what not
 

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HUGE UGA fan here, and I completely agree with the sentiment expressed over the last few pages regarding UGA vs VT / LSU / USC / OU in the Championship Game. BUT, I would take things a step further and say that 2 loss teams have nothing to complain about if they are not selected for the championship game. I don't care if the selection is done via the BCS, the polls, pulled out of a hat, Marge down the street throws a dart, ESPN.com website vote....whatever; if you have 2 losses you did not take care of business during the regular season. UGA's season (in regard to the NCG) ultimately came down to 1 play, a dropped pass *gasp* by Tony Wilson in the 4th quarter against USC. No telling if UGA goes on the streak it did starting at the WLOCP, but had he made that catch, UGA would have likely ended up in the SECCG vs LSU, and possibly playing for the national championship vs OSU.

I do argue though, regardless of division / conference championship that there are few teams playing better football than UGA since that Florida game. In typical UGA fashion they played down to Troy, but handled everyone else they faced pretty convincingly.
 
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