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Queasy

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

HAHAHAHA...oh wait...HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Ok, I'm done.

You'd have to be an idiot to think that WV could beat LSU or OSU. They lost to two unranked teams. They also almost lost to freaking CINCY!

The Big Ten heavyweights can't defend teams that run a spread option.

OSU vs FU last year
Michigan vs Oregon this year
OSU vs Illinois this year

LAST YEAR. Are you freaking stupid or something?

Bolded for the blind.

Michigan lost the first two games of the season. It had nothing to do with Oregon being good, it had to do with the fact that Michigan was WAY over rated and lost hope after losing to a Div. AA team.

OSU have played cupcakes all year and their ranking is crap. They'd lose to any good SEC team week to week if they played a real team.

Lou Holtz even said that Miles should leave LSU to go to Michigan because the wins are so much easier in the Big 10.

WV lost to PITT who is 5-7 on the year. You can't sit around and say how great the spread offense is when they can't beat a sub-500 team.

Assuming you're a UT fan (based on your profile location), I'll try to dumb this down for you.

WVU losing to Pitt isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be. It's a rivalry game. I know you understand rivalry games. WVU losing to Pitt is like UT getting spanked by Bama 41-17.

Except Bama wasn't a 28 point underdog.
 

LikeLinus

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Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

HAHAHAHA...oh wait...HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Ok, I'm done.

You'd have to be an idiot to think that WV could beat LSU or OSU. They lost to two unranked teams. They also almost lost to freaking CINCY!

The Big Ten heavyweights can't defend teams that run a spread option.

OSU vs FU last year
Michigan vs Oregon this year
OSU vs Illinois this year

LAST YEAR. Are you freaking stupid or something?

Bolded for the blind.

Michigan lost the first two games of the season. It had nothing to do with Oregon being good, it had to do with the fact that Michigan was WAY over rated and lost hope after losing to a Div. AA team.

OSU have played cupcakes all year and their ranking is crap. They'd lose to any good SEC team week to week if they played a real team.

Lou Holtz even said that Miles should leave LSU to go to Michigan because the wins are so much easier in the Big 10.

WV lost to PITT who is 5-7 on the year. You can't sit around and say how great the spread offense is when they can't beat a sub-500 team.

Assuming you're a UT fan (based on your profile location), I'll try to dumb this down for you.

WVU losing to Pitt isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be. It's a rivalry game. I know you understand rivalry games. WVU losing to Pitt is like UT getting spanked by Bama 41-17.

It's not? Oh, I didn't realize that losing to PITT cost you playing for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

My bad. It was a meaningless game.

Let's dumb it down for the idiots who don't realize big games when it matters.

Wait a second..how many National Championships has UT won and how many has WV won with their grand Spread Offense?

Damn...I'm so wrong.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I actually think Florida should be there- Tebow is a monster, of the teams that have a chance LSU should be the best.

-Kevin

Holy Christ, do you just accept everything ESPN says as gospel? Florida has a serious shortage of assistant for Tebow. A good chunk of his gaudy stats came in garbage time during games that were well in hand.

True, and I understand that, but physically the guy is a monster and when he is in, the team wins. Not only that the guy is only a sophomore-- just imagine what he is going to do in another year or two.

-Kevin
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I actually think Florida should be there

Should be where?

I was referring to the top 5.. not the BCS championship-- people in my room kinda disctracting me as I do some pre-post editing

-Kevin
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

HAHAHAHA...oh wait...HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Ok, I'm done.

You'd have to be an idiot to think that WV could beat LSU or OSU. They lost to two unranked teams. They also almost lost to freaking CINCY!

The Big Ten heavyweights can't defend teams that run a spread option.

OSU vs FU last year
Michigan vs Oregon this year
OSU vs Illinois this year

LAST YEAR. Are you freaking stupid or something?

Bolded for the blind.

Michigan lost the first two games of the season. It had nothing to do with Oregon being good, it had to do with the fact that Michigan was WAY over rated and lost hope after losing to a Div. AA team.

OSU have played cupcakes all year and their ranking is crap. They'd lose to any good SEC team week to week if they played a real team.

Lou Holtz even said that Miles should leave LSU to go to Michigan because the wins are so much easier in the Big 10.

WV lost to PITT who is 5-7 on the year. You can't sit around and say how great the spread offense is when they can't beat a sub-500 team.

Assuming you're a UT fan (based on your profile location), I'll try to dumb this down for you.

WVU losing to Pitt isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be. It's a rivalry game. I know you understand rivalry games. WVU losing to Pitt is like UT getting spanked by Bama 41-17.

Except Bama wasn't a 28 point underdog.

I never understand odds-makers during rivalry games.
 

Feldenak

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Feldenak

I never understand odds-makers during rivalry games.

It's probably cause you don't know jack shit about football.

Sure thing Skippy. I bow to your superior knowledge and understanding. :roll:
 

touchmyichi

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: touchmyichi
1. OSU- Poor schedule, but hey only 1 loss in a major conference, guess that will have to do.
2. USC- Blow out AZ state/UCLA back to back. Both two losses were within a touchdown (even though one was to stanford, I guess LSU is better here) but besides those losses they have put up more consistent wins. Coming out of the stretch, I think USC is the hottest team in the country.
3. LSU- Lost too late, no big convincing wins, didn't win the SEC championship in a convincing manner. Tougher schedule than USC, but they just don't look like a top 2 team, even though none of these do.
4. Georgia- didn't win conference, enough said
5. VT- last week's most overrated team in my opinion, they got blown out by LSU

Hell, this might even be a good time to at least do a 4 team playoff.

How can you say VT is overrated. Other than the loss to LSU injured, we lost to another #2 team in the last seconds. Other than that we won convincingly in almost every game.

And USC? You have USC jumping 6 spots? UCLA has absolutely no offense and isn't ranked!! USC may be, outside of OSU the most overrated team in the country.

-Kevin

There's a significant argument against each of these teams that anyone can make. And in all honesty, this just shows how bad this system is. Yes, I understand UCLA wasn't that good but AZ state was. The last 4 games USC played have, in my opinion, been the most impressive out of all of the finishing stretches of these teams besides Georgia. USC obviously shouldn't go to the national title, but its hard to find many substitutes.

As for your argument w/ Virginia Tech, I know that VT isn't a bad team but come on you don't lose 48-7 and go the the national title even if it was early in the season. And losses can't be looked at as flukes, couldn't you say the same for USC, WVU, and Oklahoma right now?
 

tfinch2

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I actually think Florida should be there

Should be where?

I was referring to the top 5.. not the BCS championship-- people in my room kinda disctracting me as I do some pre-post editing

-Kevin

You're still smokin' crack.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
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"WVU losing to Pitt isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be. "

I want this quoted for life. The lost to Pitt cost them the National Championship game.

But I'm the one that doesn't know about Football.

HAHAHAHA

OMG
 

BigJelly

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

-Kevin


I think OSU will beat LSU. I think lot of teams can beat LSU. LSU is lucky they played Tennessee today because Georgia would have beat em.

Still you have to look at LSU's D-Line which is ridiculously good. Their secondary can be a little iffy, but they have some of the best linebackers in the NCAA.

OSU has played literally no one. Look at their schedule. The only team that is still ranked that they played was Illinois-- and they are barely in the top 25 right now. LSU may be undisciplined but they have A LOT of talent.

Also keep in mind that VT BARELY lost to BC and definitely outplayed them the entire game. The prevent defense is what destroyed us at the end of the game.

-Kevin

Stop your blind hate for the Big Ten. You look like an @ss clown when you say stupid/wrong sh!t like that:
Wisconsin is #18

The Big 10 has 10 teams bowl eligible. 7-8 will go to bowls. Call our conference weak, if you can, AFTER the bowl games.

This SEC circle jerk is getting really fvcking annoying.
 

Feldenak

Lifer
Jan 31, 2003
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Quote it all you want. It's a rivalry game, I understand things are different in those kinds of games.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Feldenak
1. Ohio State
2. LSU/VT


I'm kind of torn on #2 because LSU beat the dog shit out of VTech earlier in the year.

I can definitely see how LSU can jump VT--- but at the same time, the VT team was very injured and has gotten better. Meanwhile, LSU has gotten more injured and gotten slightly worse (Auburn and Kentucky beat them AND they almost lost tonight-- was not a convincing win)

-Kevin

Edit: I still don't think OSU deserves it :-\ -- they lost one game in a very weak Big 10 division.

VT got blown out by LSU. LSU lost two triple over time games.

VT had a MUCH weaker schedule.

No way in hell VT is going to the title game.

OSU vs LSU

OSU vs OU

OSU vs USC

Its gonna be one of those three. With OSU vs LSU the most likely.

Honestly, IMHO OSU should be in the title game either. They've played no one.

Id like to see LSU vs OU. Or LSU vs USC.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: kalster
osu and vt i guess, but both acc and big 10 are inferior to sec and pac10

How can the human voters(or even computers) put VT ahead of LSU. It isnt going to happen.

Honestly it should be LSU vs OU.

They are bar none, the top two teams in college football at this moment.

I predict a split national title if LSU isnt in the BCS Title game.

 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

-Kevin


I think OSU will beat LSU. I think lot of teams can beat LSU. LSU is lucky they played Tennessee today because Georgia would have beat em.

Still you have to look at LSU's D-Line which is ridiculously good. Their secondary can be a little iffy, but they have some of the best linebackers in the NCAA.

OSU has played literally no one. Look at their schedule. The only team that is still ranked that they played was Illinois-- and they are barely in the top 25 right now. LSU may be undisciplined but they have A LOT of talent.

Also keep in mind that VT BARELY lost to BC and definitely outplayed them the entire game. The prevent defense is what destroyed us at the end of the game.

-Kevin

Stop your blind hate for the Big Ten. You look like an @ss clown when you say stupid/wrong sh!t like that:
Wisconsin is #18

The Big 10 has 10 teams bowl eligible. 7-8 will go to bowls. Call our conference weak, if you can, AFTER the bowl games.

This SEC circle jerk is getting really fvcking annoying.

I don't have a blind hate for the Big 10. My 2nd favorite team is in fact PSU. And even I can realize how bad they have been while still winning. OSU spent its final games beat lowly D-II teams. I apologize about Wisconson-- I forgot about them... why don't you attack my argument instead of me-- attacking me just makes you look like you can't form your own opinions.

As for your argument w/ Virginia Tech, I know that VT isn't a bad team but come on you don't lose 48-7 and go the the national title even if it was early in the season. And losses can't be looked at as flukes, couldn't you say the same for USC, WVU, and Oklahoma right now?

I agree and I understand that, but can a team not get healthy, AND improve? That was one game, as has been shown VT can dominate now that they are healthy.

USC should not be there though. You can't honestly jump 6 teams, 1 of which being SEC, one Big 12 and an ACC Champion. Its just too much...

-Kevin
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I actually think Florida should be there- Tebow is a monster, of the teams that have a chance LSU should be the best.

-Kevin

Holy Christ, do you just accept everything ESPN says as gospel? Florida has a serious shortage of assistant for Tebow. A good chunk of his gaudy stats came in garbage time during games that were well in hand.

No kidding, Florida isn't even going to make a BCS game, they're behind Georgia (who beat them handily) and LSU (who squeaked by them)

No conference is allowed more than two teams in the BCS games and there's no way Florida makes it in over Georgia or LSU.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: kalster
osu and vt i guess, but both acc and big 10 are inferior to sec and pac10

How can the human voters(or even computers) put VT ahead of LSU. It isnt going to happen.

Honestly it should be LSU vs OU.

They are bar none, the top two teams in college football.

I predict a split national title if LSU isnt in the BCS game.

what makes OU better than USC, usc's losses are as bad if not better than ou's losses
colorado is better than stanford i guess (which beat cal today)
and oregon with dixon is better than texas tech

same goes for lsu for that matter, arkansas and kentucky are both unranked
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: kalster
osu and vt i guess, but both acc and big 10 are inferior to sec and pac10

How can the human voters(or even computers) put VT ahead of LSU. It isnt going to happen.

Honestly it should be LSU vs OU.

They are bar none, the top two teams in college football at this moment.

I predict a split national title if LSU isnt in the BCS Title game.

but you can also argue that, LSU lost to 2 unranked teams, while VT lost to 2 ranked teams.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: BigJelly
Stop your blind hate for the Big Ten. You look like an @ss clown when you say stupid/wrong sh!t like that:
Wisconsin is #18

The Big 10 has 10 teams bowl eligible. 7-8 will go to bowls. Call our conference weak, if you can, AFTER the bowl games.

This SEC circle jerk is getting really fvcking annoying.

Wisconsin? LAWL What ranked team did they beat this year? Michigan?

Big 10 has 10 teams that are "bowl eligible" because all you have to do is win 6 freakin' games to be labeled "bowl eligible".

I hope those 7-8 teams have fun at the Buy.com presents Silicon Valley Gallery Furniture Bowl.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: kalster
osu and vt i guess, but both acc and big 10 are inferior to sec and pac10

How can the human voters(or even computers) put VT ahead of LSU. It isnt going to happen.

Honestly it should be LSU vs OU.

They are bar none, the top two teams in college football.

I predict a split national title if LSU isnt in the BCS game.

OSU most definitely is not. Do you honestly think that OSU can beat any team in the country right now-- AFTER getting blown out by an SEC team last year?

LSU yes, OSU hasn't played a hard enough schedule at all.

VT had a MUCH weaker schedule.

We played Clemson, UVA, LSU, BC all of which are still ranked. One of which has a heisman candidate at QB.

OU CANNOT jump 8 ranks to play in the title game. Its just too much. Same with USC, they lost to an unranked team, AND they are 8th right now. Thats 6 ranks just to get to #2.

-Kevin
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: kalster
osu and vt i guess, but both acc and big 10 are inferior to sec and pac10

How can the human voters(or even computers) put VT ahead of LSU. It isnt going to happen.

Honestly it should be LSU vs OU.

They are bar none, the top two teams in college football.

I predict a split national title if LSU isnt in the BCS game.

OSU most definitely is not. Do you honestly think that OSU can beat any team in the country right now-- AFTER getting blown out by an SEC team last year?

LSU yes, OSU hasn't played a hard enough schedule at all.

VT had a MUCH weaker schedule.

We played Clemson, UVA, LSU, BC all of which are still ranked. One of which has a heisman candidate at QB.

OU CANNOT jump 8 ranks to play in the title game. Its just too much. Same with USC, they lost to an unranked team, AND they are 8th right now. Thats 6 ranks just to get to #2.

-Kevin
dude lsu lost to 2 unraked teams and vt got blown out by lsu (georgia is the only other team that got blown out), this whole thing is messy , you can twist it any way you like to make your argument better
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I actually think Florida should be there- Tebow is a monster, of the teams that have a chance LSU should be the best.

-Kevin

Holy Christ, do you just accept everything ESPN says as gospel? Florida has a serious shortage of assistant for Tebow. A good chunk of his gaudy stats came in garbage time during games that were well in hand.

No kidding, Florida isn't even going to make a BCS game, they're behind Georgia (who beat them handily) and LSU (who squeaked by them)

No conference is allowed more than two teams in the BCS games and there's no way Florida makes it in over Georgia or LSU.

Oh yea I know. I just think Florida, if they can get some supporting cast behind Tebow will be a force to be reckoned with.

but you can also argue that, LSU lost to 2 unranked teams, while VT lost to 2 ranked teams.

True, but LSU plays a much harder schedule. The teams may be inconsistent but they are very good, and LSU didn't get blown out like we did.

-Kevin
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USC should not be there though. You can't honestly jump 6 teams, 1 of which being SEC, one Big 12 and an ACC Champion. Its just too much...

-Kevin
They would be jumping only an SEC and an ACC champion. OU is ranked behind USC. USC doesn't belong in the National Championship Game and neither does LSU.
 
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