*BCS Top 5 Standings Shakeup*

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

OU winning yesterday will not help them in the computers. You don't get help for beating the same team twice in one season.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

OSU & LSU in the BCS Championship, take it to the bank.

I think it will be because of the messed up beyond belief BCS system. But it should be LSU vs. VT-- hell if we are doing things the way they should be we should have a 6 team play off in which everyone will then be happy. (And the Big 10 would stop being cheap and make a Championship)

The Big 10 can't have a championship game because they only have 11 teams. The Big 10 needs to either get Notre Dame in the conference for football since ND is in the conference for everything else or kick ND out of the conference completely and find a school who will go all in.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91

Originally posted by: ElFenix
tOSU simply isn't that good. the lost to illinois, who lost to mizzou, who got beat pretty bad this evening.

And to carry that on...

LSU lost to Arkansas, who lost to Alabama, who lost to Louisiana-Munroe.
USC lost to Stanford, who lost to Notre Dame, who lost to ...well ,everyone.

etc, etc, etc...


That logic doesn't work very well, at all.

yes, i know it breaks down often

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

OSU & LSU in the BCS Championship, take it to the bank.

I think it will be because of the messed up beyond belief BCS system. But it should be LSU vs. VT

OMG A REMATCH?! THAT IS RIDICULOUS AND UNHEARD OF!!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

To be fair, the SEC is probably going to have 9 in bowls.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Just looking more closely at last weeks rankings, more specifically the points its very interesting.

USA Today poll: VT is tied with Kansas for 5th... you would expect them to jump Kansas which would only leave Georgia and OSU. Seeing as Georgia didn't play, nor did they win their conference championship writers typically won't vote them in. As for LSU and USC leapfrogging them, well VT played #11 (Margin of victory 14)- LSU played #14 (Margin of victory 7) - USC played Unranked (Margin of victory 21). Common sense just doesn't see the pollsters here jumping LSU and USC jumping.

AP Poll: More interesting here. VT is behind LSU by 3 points. Outside of that only Georgia and OSU will be ahead of them. Same things apply as in the USA Today poll. (Granted AP is not taken into account in BCS)

Harris Poll: VT is behind Kansas, LSU and the others. You would expect them to jump Kansas, and gain more points this week than LSU; however, it will be hard for them to make up the 50 point deficit there. USC and OU more than likely cannot jump VT in the Harris Poll.

Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

Both LSU & USC could leapfrog VTech in the computers. Both of those teams played a team they hadn't played already. VTech winning yesterday is a non-factor for the computer.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

that's last week's poll, obviously.

remind me not to hire any VT grads.

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Both LSU & USC could leapfrog VTech in the computers. Both of those teams played a team they hadn't played already. VTech winning yesterday is a non-factor for the computer.

vtech played a team they hadn't beaten already. while you don't get extra in the computers for beating a team you've already beaten, what about beating a team you lost to?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Just looking more closely at last weeks rankings, more specifically the points its very interesting.

USA Today poll: VT is tied with Kansas for 5th... you would expect them to jump Kansas which would only leave Georgia and OSU. Seeing as Georgia didn't play, nor did they win their conference championship writers typically won't vote them in. As for LSU and USC leapfrogging them, well VT played #11 (Margin of victory 14)- LSU played #14 (Margin of victory 7) - USC played Unranked (Margin of victory 21). Common sense just doesn't see the pollsters here jumping LSU and USC jumping.

AP Poll: More interesting here. VT is behind LSU by 3 points. Outside of that only Georgia and OSU will be ahead of them. Same things apply as in the USA Today poll. (Granted AP is not taken into account in BCS)

Harris Poll: VT is behind Kansas, LSU and the others. You would expect them to jump Kansas, and gain more points this week than LSU; however, it will be hard for them to make up the 50 point deficit there. USC and OU more than likely cannot jump VT in the Harris Poll.

Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

-Kevin

Problem with that is LSU blew out VT head to head. Human voters can and do changer their votes.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

Both LSU & USC could leapfrog VTech in the computers. Both of those teams played a team they hadn't played already. VTech winning yesterday is a non-factor for the computer.

It would be if Tech won last time. But since they lost I believe it likes that-- though I could be wrong.

that's last week's poll, obviously.

remind me not to hire any VT grads.

Before you criticize me look at the damn things. It has Mizzou 11-2, WVU 11-2... it is this weeks polls big guy.

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Just looking more closely at last weeks rankings, more specifically the points its very interesting.

USA Today poll: VT is tied with Kansas for 5th... you would expect them to jump Kansas which would only leave Georgia and OSU. Seeing as Georgia didn't play, nor did they win their conference championship writers typically won't vote them in. As for LSU and USC leapfrogging them, well VT played #11 (Margin of victory 14)- LSU played #14 (Margin of victory 7) - USC played Unranked (Margin of victory 21). Common sense just doesn't see the pollsters here jumping LSU and USC jumping.

AP Poll: More interesting here. VT is behind LSU by 3 points. Outside of that only Georgia and OSU will be ahead of them. Same things apply as in the USA Today poll. (Granted AP is not taken into account in BCS)

Harris Poll: VT is behind Kansas, LSU and the others. You would expect them to jump Kansas, and gain more points this week than LSU; however, it will be hard for them to make up the 50 point deficit there. USC and OU more than likely cannot jump VT in the Harris Poll.

Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

-Kevin

Problem with that is LSU blew out VT head to head. Human voters can and do changer their votes.

Very true but Tech has vastly improved and gotten healthy in that time- so that may sway them too. This is mind boggling lol.

-Kevin

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

that's last week's poll, obviously.

remind me not to hire any VT grads.

Before you criticize me look at the damn things. It has Mizzou 11-2, WVU 11-2... it is this weeks polls big guy.

-Kevin

oh boy their web app updated the wins/losses of each team. look at what 'week' it is. additionally, it's a fan poll, so it will take a while for the fans go to in and cast votes.

cast a vote right here
hey, read that first paragraph on that page, it's obviously last week's!

still not helping out the area VT grads

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Just looking more closely at last weeks rankings, more specifically the points its very interesting.

USA Today poll: VT is tied with Kansas for 5th... you would expect them to jump Kansas which would only leave Georgia and OSU. Seeing as Georgia didn't play, nor did they win their conference championship writers typically won't vote them in. As for LSU and USC leapfrogging them, well VT played #11 (Margin of victory 14)- LSU played #14 (Margin of victory 7) - USC played Unranked (Margin of victory 21). Common sense just doesn't see the pollsters here jumping LSU and USC jumping.

AP Poll: More interesting here. VT is behind LSU by 3 points. Outside of that only Georgia and OSU will be ahead of them. Same things apply as in the USA Today poll. (Granted AP is not taken into account in BCS)

Harris Poll: VT is behind Kansas, LSU and the others. You would expect them to jump Kansas, and gain more points this week than LSU; however, it will be hard for them to make up the 50 point deficit there. USC and OU more than likely cannot jump VT in the Harris Poll.

Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

-Kevin

Problem with that is LSU blew out VT head to head. Human voters can and do changer their votes.

Very true but Tech has vastly improved and gotten healthy in that time- so that may sway them too. This is mind boggling lol.

-Kevin

There is noway the voters put VTech ahead of LSU and into the BCS Champ. Game. I don't care if you guys were banged up at the beginning of the season...that's part of the game. VTech was clobbered 48-7 by LSU.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Because voters will remember how OU has lost to 2 unranked teams. I will agree that, if given more time, they may prove to be one of, if not the best, but at this point you can argue inconsistency.

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Just looking more closely at last weeks rankings, more specifically the points its very interesting.

USA Today poll: VT is tied with Kansas for 5th... you would expect them to jump Kansas which would only leave Georgia and OSU. Seeing as Georgia didn't play, nor did they win their conference championship writers typically won't vote them in. As for LSU and USC leapfrogging them, well VT played #11 (Margin of victory 14)- LSU played #14 (Margin of victory 7) - USC played Unranked (Margin of victory 21). Common sense just doesn't see the pollsters here jumping LSU and USC jumping.

AP Poll: More interesting here. VT is behind LSU by 3 points. Outside of that only Georgia and OSU will be ahead of them. Same things apply as in the USA Today poll. (Granted AP is not taken into account in BCS)

Harris Poll: VT is behind Kansas, LSU and the others. You would expect them to jump Kansas, and gain more points this week than LSU; however, it will be hard for them to make up the 50 point deficit there. USC and OU more than likely cannot jump VT in the Harris Poll.

Computer: Kansas, Georgia, and OSU are ahead. Kansas will be jumped and it will be interesting, as with the AP and USA Today poll to see how Georgia is placed. Outside of Georgia, based on the points last week you can't have LSU or USC jump VT in the rankings.

-Kevin

Problem with that is LSU blew out VT head to head. Human voters can and do changer their votes.

Very true but Tech has vastly improved and gotten healthy in that time- so that may sway them too. This is mind boggling lol.

-Kevin

There is noway the voters put VTech ahead of LSU and into the BCS Champ. Game. I don't care if you guys were banged up at the beginning of the season...that's part of the game. VTech was clobbered 48-7 by LSU.

Nor am I saying that. If you look at my rankings at the top, I have LSU #1 and VT #2.

My point in the last post, was that VT was in fact ahead last week and, if the ends justified the means (Which in this case, it doesn't), seeing as Tech played a better team yesterday they should keep that.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Because voters will remember how OU has lost to 2 unranked teams. I will agree that, if given more time, they may prove to be one of, if not the best, but at this point you can argue inconsistency.

All I've heard about VTech on the boob tube is the beating they received at the hands of LSU. VTech is going to wherever the ACC tie-in is, they will not be going to the BCS Champ.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

and one of OU's losses came with their QB sitting on the bench.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Because voters will remember how OU has lost to 2 unranked teams. I will agree that, if given more time, they may prove to be one of, if not the best, but at this point you can argue inconsistency.

All I've heard about VTech on the boob tube is the beating they received at the hands of LSU. VTech is going to wherever the ACC tie-in is, they will not be going to the BCS Champ.

I haven't even heard announcers mention them. Not even to beat them up for that ONE loss.

I think VT will end up going to the Orange Bowl, but I think they definitely deserve, and have earned a chance in the BCS Title Game.

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

and one of OU's losses came with their QB sitting on the bench.

Injuries only matter if your VTech...you know that's why they lost 48-7 to LSU.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

and one of OU's losses came with their QB sitting on the bench.

One of Tech's losses came with Tyrod on the bench (BC). As much as we both would like to make that argument and excuses for the losses-- but in actuality we have to see that we lost.

-Kevin

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Because voters will remember how OU has lost to 2 unranked teams. I will agree that, if given more time, they may prove to be one of, if not the best, but at this point you can argue inconsistency.

All I've heard about VTech on the boob tube is the beating they received at the hands of LSU. VTech is going to wherever the ACC tie-in is, they will not be going to the BCS Champ.

I haven't even heard announcers mention them. Not even to beat them up for that ONE loss.

I think VT will end up going to the Orange Bowl, but I think they definitely deserve, and have earned a chance in the BCS Title Game.

-Kevin

And I still think an undefeated Auburn team should have played for the BCS Champ in 2004. Goes back to that whole "Wish in 1 hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up first."

 

[ElFenix]

48-7

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Because voters will remember how OU has lost to 2 unranked teams. I will agree that, if given more time, they may prove to be one of, if not the best, but at this point you can argue inconsistency.

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

they lost both ON THE ROAD.
va tech lost @ home.
usc lost @ home
lsu lost @ home.
uga lost @ home.
ohio st. lost @ home.

youre supposed to win @ home.

and i only threw the QBs in there to illustrate my point that the Big 12 is more than just OU this year as much as it pains people on the fringes of this country.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
48-7

One game my friend, one game.

OU lost to 2 unranked teams, regardless of their QB situation-- you want to talk about QB ask Oregon how they are feeling now.

I just think VT has gotten that much better since that game. They lost one game, to another #2 team in the final seconds.

-Kevin