*BCS Top 5 Standings Shakeup*

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
conference championships are even more borked than the bcs. georgia is the best team in the sec atm and didn't even get a shot, and most peope here admit that they probably would have beaten the conference champions.



the best suggestion is just to not have a national championship.

I'm a Dawg myself, and I'd agree that if UGA would've played LSU last night, they would've won.

However, given a month to rest and get healthy again, it's possible LSU could be at--or very near--full strength, and this year, that would put them ahead of UGA.

Next year, on the other hand, is going to be interesting. Go Dawgs, and Geaux Tigers.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

when it's a bunch of 2 loss teams (and tOSU), why not? you're really just taking in information, and now you might honestly think that OU with a healthy bradford is one of the two best teams in the country, much as it pains me to say it.

Because voters will remember how OU has lost to 2 unranked teams. I will agree that, if given more time, they may prove to be one of, if not the best, but at this point you can argue inconsistency.

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

they lost both ON THE ROAD.
va tech lost @ home.
usc lost @ home
lsu lost @ home.
uga lost @ home.
ohio st. lost @ home.

youre supposed to win @ home.

and i only threw the QBs in there to illustrate my point that the Big 12 is more than just OU this year as much as it pains people on the fringes of this country.

They are still UNRANKED. You don't lose to UNRANKED teams. VT barely lost at home (A loss IS a loss still though, the same applies for everyone else outside of OSU). You also have to keep in mind, pollsters can give a team a boost, but to boost them 7 ranks to number 2 is unheard of and ridiculous.

-Kevin

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

I don't know about this one... I think it's possible. Not only did OU win their conference but they also beat the #1 team in the land.

I had a big argument here but I just snipped it out. Reason: it's a mess.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

(Keep in mind LSU's losses came in OT, VT lost one in final seconds and got blown out both by #2 teams)

-Kevin

and one of OU's losses came with their QB sitting on the bench.

One of Tech's losses came with Tyrod on the bench (BC). As much as we both would like to make that argument and excuses for the losses-- but in actuality we have to see that we lost.

-Kevin

heh, usc's first loss come with qb with broken hand and 2nd with a backup to a great oregon hehe these arguments dont work, i think voters may decide that lsu deserve to get a shot, as much as people like conference championship game, i actually like what the pac-10 does,everyone plays everyone (not like the big-10 where teams miss other teams, eg wisconsin missing ohio state last year) , if the sec did that, ga and lsu would both not be in consideration at this point.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

I don't know about this one... I think it's possible. Not only did OU win their conference but they also beat the #1 team in the land.

I had a big argument here but I just snipped it out. Reason: it's a mess.

FSU beat the #2 team in the country while unranked. Do you want to know how many ranks they moved up (I could only find CFN rankings )? Not even far enough to show up in the top 50 and they moved to 6-3 at the time!

-Kevin

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

I don't know about this one... I think it's possible. Not only did OU win their conference but they also beat the #1 team in the land.

I had a big argument here but I just snipped it out. Reason: it's a mess.

FSU beat the #2 team in the country while unranked. Do you want to know how many ranks they moved up (I could only find CFN rankings )? Not even far enough to show up in the top 50 and they moved to 6-3 at the time!

-Kevin

but yet you still try to claim some superiority for beating #2 boston college.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: JasonCoder

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Man I don't think I have ever been this anxious waiting for the polls. In looking though, ESPN Sportsnation shows it wisdom with this load of crap:

1. Missouri
2. WVU
3. OSU
4. Georgia
5. LSU
6. Kansas
7. VT
8. OU

Somehow after beating the #11 team VT drops a rank :-\ -- and WVU and Mizzou somehow hold their ranks. I'm so glad that poll counts for nothing.

I feel safe in saying VTech is not going to the BCS championship. Beating BC the second time around isn't going to help you just like OU beating Mizzou a second time isn't going to help. I remember in 2004, Auburn beating UT twice didn't do squat for them.

Yes, but OU is #9 and VT is #6. USC and LSU are both in front of OU and cannot be skipped over by OU merely winning the Big 12 championship.

-Kevin

'merely winning the big 12 championship'

im done w/ you. you have no idea what youre talking about.
8 teams in the big 12 are going to bowl games. the Big 12 has the best QBs in the nation top to bottom.

ou only beat the #1 team in the nation by 21 on a neutral field. that's all.

'merely winning the big 12'...

youre a joke

You cannot honestly expect them to jump OU 9 spots for beating the #1 team. Florida St. beat BC and didn't even get RANKED afterwards. I'm not saying Big 12 is crap-- in fact I find it the second best conference in the nation, but just by winning that conference cannot make a team jump 9 spots.

As for the best QB's... whether they do or don't, has NO BEARING on their rankings.

-Kevin

I don't know about this one... I think it's possible. Not only did OU win their conference but they also beat the #1 team in the land.

I had a big argument here but I just snipped it out. Reason: it's a mess.

FSU beat the #2 team in the country while unranked. Do you want to know how many ranks they moved up (I could only find CFN rankings )? Not even far enough to show up in the top 50 and they moved to 6-3 at the time!

-Kevin

but yet you still try to claim some superiority for beating #2 boston college.

I'm not asking to move up past LSU and USC!!!!! And not only that, apparently losing to unranked teams doesn't matter with OU- why does that immediately degrade my argument when an unranked team beats BC?

OU is not going to make it, Tech will likely move up to 3 or 4 and it will likely end up being OSU and LSU in the BCS Title game.

-Kevin

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

not if les miles is coaching

 

[ElFenix]

this is why i love college football

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

LSU should have beaten UT like a redheaded stepchild and yet managed to squeak out a 21-14 win. UT's secondary has more holes than a sieve...LSU should have been able to sling the ball all over the field, even with Perriloux under center.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this is why i love college football

I agree. This is also why I don't like the idea of playoffs for I-A.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this is why i love college football

I agree. This is also why I don't like the idea of playoffs for I-A.

I love college football and I love debating this with ya'll but I still wish teams that should have a shot at the title all get their chance.

-Kevin

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

LSU should have beaten UT like a redheaded stepchild and yet managed to squeak out a 21-14 win. UT's secondary has more holes than a sieve...LSU should have been able to sling the ball all over the field, even with Perriloux under center.

And that is exactly what we are going to do against OSU in the BCS game with everyone healed up.

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this is why i love college football

I agree. This is also why I don't like the idea of playoffs for I-A.

ugh how can you guys like this shit?

i guess an ohio state fan has no choice but to like it.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

LSU should have beaten UT like a redheaded stepchild and yet managed to squeak out a 21-14 win. UT's secondary has more holes than a sieve...LSU should have been able to sling the ball all over the field, even with Perriloux under center.

And that is exactly what we are going to do against OSU in the BCS game with everyone healed up.

No way. Even healthy I can't say I was ever overly impressed with LSU. I do know CBS can go eat a dick over their repeated harping on the chop block of Dorsey.

 

[ZeroEffect]

1. Playoff
2. Playoff
3. Playoff
4. Playoff
5. Playoff

decide it on the field!

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this is why i love college football

I agree. This is also why I don't like the idea of playoffs for I-A.

ugh how can you guys like this shit?

i guess an ohio state fan has no choice but to like it.

I'm an Auburn alum, I'd rather have Auburn playing. The passionate debates are what make college football great. Soulless playoffs would suck the life out of I-A football.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this is why i love college football

I agree. This is also why I don't like the idea of playoffs for I-A.

ugh how can you guys like this shit?

i guess an ohio state fan has no choice but to like it.

You damn well better be please with it as an OSU fan, because you are a good team, but certainly not the best team in the country by a sizeable margin, yet you get to go AGAIN.

-Kevin

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

LSU should have beaten UT like a redheaded stepchild and yet managed to squeak out a 21-14 win. UT's secondary has more holes than a sieve...LSU should have been able to sling the ball all over the field, even with Perriloux under center.

And that is exactly what we are going to do against OSU in the BCS game with everyone healed up.

No way. Even healthy I can't say I was ever overly impressed with LSU. I do know CBS can go eat a dick over their repeated harping on the chop block of Dorsey.

Hey, I hope you are right. My company has a sweet for the BCS game and I would hate to watch a boring game.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

LSU should have beaten UT like a redheaded stepchild and yet managed to squeak out a 21-14 win. UT's secondary has more holes than a sieve...LSU should have been able to sling the ball all over the field, even with Perriloux under center.

And that is exactly what we are going to do against OSU in the BCS game with everyone healed up.

No way. Even healthy I can't say I was ever overly impressed with LSU. I do know CBS can go eat a dick over their repeated harping on the chop block of Dorsey.

Hey, I hope you are right. My company has a sweet for the BCS game and I would hate to watch a boring game.

LSU doesn't seem to play many boring games.
As an LSU fan that isn't necessarily a good thing either.

 

[Gamingphreek]

AP Polls are up... they aren't factored into BCS but here is a brief overview:

1. OSU
2. LSU
3. OU
4. Georgia
5. VT

I can't believe you jump OU 6 spots-- thats absurd.

-Kevin

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I agree even though I hate it because LSU will absolutely destroy OSU.

...this may be the most crazy BCS I have ever seen.

-Kevin

LSU is one of the most undisciplined teams in the the country...no way do they destroy someone for the crystal. The only team I think that would crush OSU straight up would be WVU because of the spread option.

As undisciplined as they are, they won the SEC championship (arguably the hardest conference) game with their starting quarterback and one of (if not THE) best defensive players in College Football on the sidelines.

Given a month to heal up, LSU will simply embarrass OSU. It won't even be a contest.

LSU should have beaten UT like a redheaded stepchild and yet managed to squeak out a 21-14 win. UT's secondary has more holes than a sieve...LSU should have been able to sling the ball all over the field, even with Perriloux under center.

And that is exactly what we are going to do against OSU in the BCS game with everyone healed up.

No way. Even healthy I can't say I was ever overly impressed with LSU. I do know CBS can go eat a dick over their repeated harping on the chop block of Dorsey.

They stopped just short of blaming global warming and 9/11 on the chop block.

 

[GrimmRimmer]

LSU is #2 in the coaches too. It's a done deal!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports.../football/usatpoll.htm

 

[Gamingphreek]

USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin