*BCS Top 5 Standings Shakeup*

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer
LSU is #2 in the coaches too. It's a done deal!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports.../football/usatpoll.htm

USA Today is the only one out yet that matters. Harris Poll isn't out yet, and BCS doesn't come out until 7PM.

They have 1 out of the 3 so far.

-Kevin

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer
LSU is #2 in the coaches too. It's a done deal!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports.../football/usatpoll.htm

USA Today is the only one out yet that matters. Harris Poll isn't out yet, and BCS doesn't come out until 7PM.

They have 1 out of the 3 so far.

-Kevin

They will have all three...

Harris is going to be quite similiar to the Coaches and AP. LSU will beat out GA and VT in the computers...

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin

Slaughtering a #1 is still slaughtering a #1. Thats why the moved up.

 

[kalster]

this is pretty messed up i have to say , lsu moves up so many spots for barely beating tenn, tenn was never that good, a 6-6 cal beat it by 2 scores,, not to mention they were the last to lose as well, even the game y'day but pretty much handed to them by tenn, i atually prefer putting in ou over lsu, atleast ou totally dominated a no #1 team

 

[MadRat]

Coaches Poll Standings

1. Ohio State 11-1 Won Big10 *, lost to Runnerup; Illinois 28-21
2. LSU 11-2 Won SEC; Kentucky 43-37, Arkansas 50-48
3. Oklahoma 11-2 Won Big12 championship; Colorado 27-24, Texas Tech 34-27
4. Georgia 10-2 Finish 3rd in SEC; S.Carolina 16-12, Tennessee 35-14
5. Virginia Tech 11-2 Won ACC; LSU 48-7, Boston College 14-10
6. USC 10-2 Won Pac10 on tie-breaker *; Stanford 24-23, Oregon 24-17
7. Missouri 11-2 Runner up Big12; Oklahoma 41-31, Oklahoma 38-17
8. Kansas 11-1 Finish 3rd in Big12; Missouri 36-28
9. Florida 9-3 Finish 4th in SEC; Auburn 20-17, LSU 28-24, Georgia 42-30
10. Hawaii 11-0 Won WAC *; ONLY REMAINING D-1A UNDEFEATED
11. West Virginia 10-2 Won BigEast *, lost to Runnerup; S.Florida 21-13, Pittsburgh 13-9
12. Arizona State 10-2 Runner up in Pac10 *; Oregon 35-23, USC 44-24
13. Illinois 9-3 Runner up in Big10 *; Missouri 40-34, Iowa 10-6, Michigan 27-17
14. Boston College 10-3 Runner up in ACC; Florida St 27-17, Maryland 42-35, Va Tech 30-16
15. Clemson 9-3 Finish 4th in ACC; Ga Tech 13-3, Va Tech 41-23, Boston College 20-17
16. Tennessee 9-4 Runner up in SEC; California 45-31, Florida 59-20, Alabama 41-17, LSU 21-14
17. Texas 9-3 Finish 4th in Big12; Kansas St 41-21, Oklahoma 28-21, Texas A&M 38-30
18. Wisconsin 9-3 Finish 4th in Big10 *; Illinois 31-26, Penn State 38-7, Ohio St 38-17
19. Brigham Young 10-2 Won MountainWest *; UCLA 27-17, Tulsa 55-47
20. Cincinnati 9-3 Finish 3rd in BigEast *; Louisville 28-24, Pittsburgh 24-17, W.Virginia 28-23
21. Virginia 9-3 Finish 3rd in ACC; Wyoming 23-3, NC State 29-24, Va Tech 33-21
22. Auburn 8-4 Finish 5th in SEC; S.Florida 26-23, Miss St 19-14, LSU 30-24, Georgia 45-20
23. South Florida 9-3 Finish 4th in BigEast *; Rutgers 30-27, UConn 22-15, Cincinnati 38-33
24. Boise State 10-2 Runner up WAC *; Washington 24-10, Hawaii 39-27
25. Arkansas 8-4 Finish 6th in SEC; Alabama 41-38, Kentucky 42-29, Auburn 9-7, Tennessee 34-13

* should be penalized for no conference championship game

Also recieving votes in Coaches Poll:
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Texas Tech 8-4 Finish 5th in Big12; Oklahoma St 49-45, Missouri 41-10, Colorado 31-26, Texas 59-43
Central Florida 10-3 Won ConfUSA; Texas 35-32, E.Carolina 52-38, S.Florida 64-12
Connecticut 9-3 RunnerUp in BigEast *; Virginia 17-16, Cincinnati L 27-3, W.Virginia 66-21
Oregon 8-4 Finish 4th Pac10 *; Arizona 34-24, UCLA 16-0, Oregon St 38-31
Oregon State 8-4 Finish 3rd in Pac10 *; Cincinnati 34-3, Arizona St 44-32, UCLA 40-14, USC 24-3
Michigan 8-4 Finish 3rd in Big10 *; App St 34-32, Oregon 39-7, Wisconsin 37-21, Ohio St 14-3
Air Force 9-3 Runner up in MountainWest *; BYU 31-6; Navy 31-20; New Mexico 34-31
Penn State 8-4 Finish 5th in Big10 *; Michigan 14-9, Illinois 27-20, Ohio St 37-17, Mich St 35-31
Wake Forest 8-4 Finish 5th in ACC; Boston College 38-28, Nebraska 20-17, Virginia 17-16, Clemson 44-10

No votes in Coaches Poll:
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Central Michigan 8-5 Won Mid-American; Kansas 52-7, Purdue 45-22, ND State 44-14, Clemson 70-14, E.Michigan 48-45
Troy 8-4 Won SunBelt *, lost to Runnerup; Arkansas 46-26, Florida 59-31, Georgia 44-34, Florida Atlantic 38-32
Tulsa 9-4 RunnerUp in ConfUSA; Oklahoma 62-21, UTEP 48-47, C.Florida 44-23, C.Florida 44-25
Bowling Green 8-4 Runner up in Mid-American; Mich St 28-17, Boston College 55-24, Miami (OH) 47-14, Ohio 38-27
Fresno State 8-4 Finish 3rd in WAC *; Texas A&M 47-45, Oregon 52-21, Boise St 34-21, Hawaii 37-30
Utah 8-4 Finish 3rd in MountainWest *; Oregon St 24-7, Air Force 20-12, UNLV 27-0, BYU 17-10
Houston 8-4 Finish 3rd in ConfUSA; Oregon 48-27, E.Carolina 37-35, Alabama 30-24, Tulsa 56-7
New Mexico 8-4 Finish 4th in MountainWest *; UTEP 10-6, BYU 31-24, TCU 37-0, Utah 28-10
Navy 8-4 Independent; Rutgers 41-24, Ball St 34-31, Wake Forest 44-24, Delaware 59-52

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: kalster
this is pretty messed up i have to say , lsu moves up so many spots for barely beating tenn, tenn was never that good, a 6-6 cal beat it by 2 scores,, not to mention they were the last to lose as well, even the game y'day but pretty much handed to them by tenn, i atually prefer putting in ou over lsu, atleast ou totally dominated a no #1 team

LSU played with a back up QB.

How many teams played with a backup QB and lost?

USC
Cal
Oregon
OU
etc
etc

 

[dbk]

I agree with the rankings...I go to VT

 

[Darwin333]

One of the writers on ESPN is predicting a Georgia vs Hawaii Sugarbowl.

That will be an amusing game to say the least.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Darwin333
One of the writers on ESPN is predicting a Georgia vs Hawaii Sugarbowl.

That will be an amusing game to say the least.

Several others have this

LSU vs OSU Title Game
WVa vs VaTech Orange
Georgia vs Hawaii Sugar
OU vs Kansas Fiesta
USC vs Illinois Rose

There other likely scenario is Kansas and Hawaii switching places.

 

[kalster]

usc georgia will be a better game, hawaii vs illinois will be fun

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: kalster
usc georgia will be a better game, hawaii vs illinois will be fun

The Rose always sticks with a Pac 10 - Big 10 game if they have the option.

They have the option. Not to mention, the Sugar has first dibs on Georgia.

USC - Georgia would be a better game but its not going to happen.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Darwin333
One of the writers on ESPN is predicting a Georgia vs Hawaii Sugarbowl.

That will be an amusing game to say the least.

That'll be a snoozer. Hawaii will get schooled.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333
One of the writers on ESPN is predicting a Georgia vs Hawaii Sugarbowl.

That will be an amusing game to say the least.

That'll be a snoozer. Hawaii will get schooled.

People said the same thing about Boise State last year.

 

[GrimmRimmer]

That's why I hate the Rose Bowl. USC vs UGA would be a tremendous game, but they will pick Illinois instead because of the Big 10 ties.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333
One of the writers on ESPN is predicting a Georgia vs Hawaii Sugarbowl.

That will be an amusing game to say the least.

That'll be a snoozer. Hawaii will get schooled.

although hawaii isnt the same level as wvu when clicking but many were expecting georgia to school wvu 2 years back and it turned not so well for ga

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: GrimmRimmer
That's why I hate the Rose Bowl. USC vs UGA would be a tremendous game, but they will pick Illinois instead because of the Big 10 ties.

The Rose won't have the option of picking UGA. The Sugar gets first dibs on UGA.

Rose gets first dibs on Big 10/Pac 10.

Fiesta gets first dibs on Big 12

Sugar gets first dibs on SEC

Orange gets first dibs on ACC/Big East


Id personally like to see

OU vs UGA in the Sugar

Kansas vs Hawaii in Fiesta

Those would be good matchups.

 

[Chryso]

LOL, there goes LSU losing to two unranked teams.
Ar-Kansas is now ranked.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin

So you don't like it when teams that don't play move up and you don't like it when teams that don't play stay where they were. Should teams always move down in the polls if they don't play?

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin

So you don't like it when teams that don't play move up and you don't like it when teams that don't play stay where they were. Should teams always move down in the polls if they don't play?

Don't listen to him...he's all over the place.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darwin333
One of the writers on ESPN is predicting a Georgia vs Hawaii Sugarbowl.

That will be an amusing game to say the least.

That'll be a snoozer. Hawaii will get schooled.

although hawaii isnt the same level as wvu when clicking but many were expecting georgia to school wvu 2 years back and it turned not so well for ga

Both Boise St in 2006 and WVU in 2005 beat their easy schedules convincingly. Hawaii has not. Hawaii's schedule is also worse then either of those two teams, by far. By Sagarin's SOS stats, Hawaii's is 137th (worse then 17 1-AA teams), Boise St's was 90th and WVU's was 63rd.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin

So you don't like it when teams that don't play move up and you don't like it when teams that don't play stay where they were. Should teams always move down in the polls if they don't play?

Don't listen to him...he's all over the place.

Each team has their own circumstances. USC, VT are both better than Georgia (or at least on par) and they had to play extra games (Which they won) and yet they don't move at all.

-Kevin

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin

So you don't like it when teams that don't play move up and you don't like it when teams that don't play stay where they were. Should teams always move down in the polls if they don't play?

Don't listen to him...he's all over the place.

Each team has their own circumstances. USC, VT are both better than Georgia (or at least on par) and they had to play extra games (Which they won) and yet they don't move at all.

-Kevin

USC and Georgia are both 10-2. There is no extra game there.
USC had an extra bye week. That means they had more time to rest during the season.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
USA Today poll is up... same as AP.

Ohio
LSU
OU
Georgia
VT

I hate how Ohio doesn't play yet moves from 5th to 3rd to 1st. I dislike how OU by beating Mizzou, even though they were expected to, jumps 6 ranks. Finally I dislike how Georgia doesn't play, they don't win their conference, they don't play in their championship yet they still are 4th.

-Kevin

So you don't like it when teams that don't play move up and you don't like it when teams that don't play stay where they were. Should teams always move down in the polls if they don't play?

Don't listen to him...he's all over the place.

Each team has their own circumstances. USC, VT are both better than Georgia (or at least on par) and they had to play extra games (Which they won) and yet they don't move at all.

-Kevin

USC and Georgia are both 10-2. There is no extra game there.
USC had an extra bye week. That means they had more time to rest during the season.

Ah I forgot their extra bye week. Well in that case, VT definitely had an extra game against the 11th ranked team in the nation.

-Kevin

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
OU winning yesterday will not help them in the computers. You don't get help for beating the same team twice in one season.

That may or may not be true.

It is certainly better for OU to beat a one loss team then for USC to beat a 5 loss team, in the computers.

It makes more of a difference for a team to beat another team twice the less losses the other team has. Thus, Oklahoma's wins against Missouri are better then Auburn's wins over Tennessee in 2004. Also, both USC and Oklahoma in 2004 had much better schedules then Auburn in 2004, and so there was much less change in the rankings. This year, everyone is spaced much more closely, so Oklahoma's win will certainly help them. They already jumped to 3rd in Sagarin's BCS rating, which is the only one out right now.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: BigJelly
you forget that SEC >> EVERYONE even if they lose they should have won :roll:

Look what happens when SEC plays anyone out of conference, they annihilate them. You can't honestly say that any other conference is better (Believe me I would love for my ACC to be better)

-Kevin

Yes, the #1 SEC team annihilated the #1 ACC team. But, the #2 SEC team lost to the #7 Pac-10 team. It's not as simple as saying 1 conference ALWAYS annihilates everyone else.