Be all end all IRS > SRA thread

[SpatiallyAware]

Every single mustang thread spirals down into SRA vs IRS, I think it's about time to have a thread just for this.

I know some guys love their SRA suspension, but the bottom line is that it's ancient technology. Yes, ford dumped a bunch of money into making it handle well on a perfectly smooth track, but it is terrible on the street.

Any mustang (except the IRS cobra) hops all over the place if being pushed at all through a bumpy corner, this has held the mustang back for at least 5-6 years now.

SRA has its place... In budget drag cars. There is no other reason to specifically want a SRA setup, and drag racing is the only positive aspect of SRA.

If you use your car for ANYTHING other than drag racing (daily driver, weekend car, track, mountains) you are better off with IRS.

 

[brainhulk]

C'mon, arguing over the interwebs will continue till the end of time. Once the mustang ditches the sra, we'll be arguing over big v8 vs i4 turbo...

Don't try to stop the arguing, its fun

 

[SpatiallyAware]

C'mon, arguing over the interwebs will continue till the end of time. Once the mustang ditches the sra, we'll be arguing over big v8 vs i4 turbo...

Don't try to stop the arguing, its fun

I enjoy it as well


I predict the 'diehard' SRA people will claim the SRA mustangs will always be better than the IRS version

 

[Zargon]

C'mon, arguing over the interwebs will continue till the end of time. Once the mustang ditches the sra, we'll be arguing over big v8 vs i4 turbo...

Don't try to stop the arguing, its fun

coming in 2015....http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...ule-confirms-independent-rear-suspension.html

 

[SSSnail]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uOwSPccbzl4#t=410s

 

[JackBurton]

coming in 2015....http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...ule-confirms-independent-rear-suspension.html

Now THAT is a much better looking Mustang than the other pictures floating around. IRS with 450HP minimum for the GT is all I ask. 315 tires in the back wouldn't hurt either. Oh, and magnetic ride control too.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uOwSPccbzl4#t=410s

And that's on a smooth racetrack..

I've posted about this numerous times, but it is so abundantly obvious that the rear suspension sucks if you follow a mustang around a tight corner on the street that is anything other than perfectly smooth.

Any little bumps while turning under load will completely upset the suspension, the offramp near my house is a fairly bumpy cambered turn.. at 90% you would be going 60-70mph, but most sports cars fly through around 40-45. A mustang rear end hops all over place... It's really kind of sad to see.

 

[nerp]

How can anyone claim SRA is good? Maybe someone who needs to convince themselves they didn't waste money? I know when I was a kid, I'd often pretend something was awesome even when I knew it sucked just because I didn't want to feel upset or disappointed with my purchase. I've grown up now, though.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

How can anyone claim SRA is good? Maybe someone who needs to convince themselves they didn't waste money? I know when I was a kid, I'd often pretend something was awesome even when I knew it sucked just because I didn't want to feel upset or disappointed with my purchase. I've grown up now, though.

There are a number of people who truly believe that a 'properly setup' SRA is every bit as good on the street as IRS.

 

[nerp]

And most people have no interest in modifying a stock $50,000 car's SRA just so it can be as good on the street as stock IRS cars.

 

[heymrdj]

If that autoguide pic is the new car I guess my mustang love will die. The 2013 to me is dead sexy. That new one looks like someone mated a focus, lambo, and audi together. I want a car that looks kinda brutish, not the curvy euroball like everyone else is making.

 

[nerp]

If that autoguide pic is the new car I guess my mustang love will die. The 2013 to me is dead sexy. That new one looks like someone mated a focus, lambo, and audi together. I want a car that looks kinda brutish, not the curvy euroball like everyone else is making.

Do you like the Charger or Challenger?

 

[heymrdj]

Do you like the Charger or Challenger?

Charger yes, Challenger I don't know, can't say I've been close enough to one to pass proper judgment. It kind of swings the other way for me and is too classic. But I still think it's pretty sexy. I would probably drive both

 

[Howard]

I agree that most cars are better served by IRS.

 

[z1ggy]

coming in 2015....http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...ule-confirms-independent-rear-suspension.html

That picture just an artist rendering of what he wishes it will look like??

 

[foghorn67]

Every single mustang thread spirals down into SRA vs IRS, I think it's about time to have a thread just for this.

I know some guys love their SRA suspension, but the bottom line is that it's ancient technology. Yes, ford dumped a bunch of money into making it handle well on a perfectly smooth track, but it is terrible on the street.

Any mustang (except the IRS cobra) hops all over the place if being pushed at all through a bumpy corner, this has held the mustang back for at least 5-6 years now.

SRA has its place... In budget drag cars. There is no other reason to specifically want a SRA setup, and drag racing is the only positive aspect of SRA.

If you use your car for ANYTHING other than drag racing (daily driver, weekend car, track, mountains) you are better off with IRS.

Who is arguing its superior?
You started a thread out of spite?
How pathetic you've proven to be.
You have issues.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Who is arguing its superior?
You started a thread out of spite?
How pathetic you've proven to be.
You have issues.

Rofl what?? Spite towards what? This thread gives us one place to have a decent debate about this, rather than every single mustang thread getting derailed into pointing out that SRA is an ancient and inferior design, and only a fanboy would 100% diehard support it.

 

[Throckmorton]

I think several people on this forum don't understand how the various types of suspension actually work, and aren't willing to learn. If you try to discuss suspension engineering, they get angry because "You're not an engineer!!!111" They really believe that all you should do, if you aren't an engineer, is look at track times.

Here is a decent explanation of different suspension designs
Front http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible.html
Rear http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible_pg2.html

 

[foghorn67]

I think several people on this forum don't understand how the various types of suspension actually work, and aren't willing to learn. If you try to discuss suspension engineering, they get angry because "You're not an engineer!!!111" They really believe that all you should do, if you aren't an engineer, is look at track times.

Here is a decent explanation of different suspension designs http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible.html

Pot meet kettle. The guy that has so far has only read articles.
And who ate you trying to prove it to?
Everyone know irs is superior except for the bolt on dragsters.
Some argue the difference isn't as much as you think.
I think you attach yourself to one word and run away with it.
Even on subjective issues, you tend to get pissy.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Pot meet kettle. The guy that has so far has only read articles.
And who ate you trying to prove it to?
Everyone know irs is superior except for the bolt on dragsters.
Some argue the difference isn't as much as you think.
I think you attach yourself to one word and run away with it.
Even on subjective issues, you tend to get pissy.

Bahaha no one here has gotten pissy except you.

The difference is substantial. This is not a minor little thing with no noticeable driving difference like HID lights or something..

Having IRS is an understandable requirement for anyone serious about driving who is buying a performance car.

 

[foghorn67]

Bahaha no one here has gotten pissy except you.

The difference is substantial. This is not a minor little thing with no noticeable driving difference like HID lights or something..

Having IRS is an understandable requirement for anyone serious about driving who is buying a performance car.

So the GT and Boss 302 are for casual gamers? Understandable requirement yes. Absolutely necessary. No.
Now 5 years from now? Yes. Ford should had done so during the mid cycle refresh. But they were from verge of collapse. Something got shelvd again.
Trust me. My feet are resting on the table as I finger tap this reply our in my tiny iPhone.
Throck is a wound up ball of weirdness.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

So the GT and Boss 302 are for casual gamers? Understandable requirement yes. Absolutely necessary. No.
Now 5 years from now? Yes. Ford should had done so during the mid cycle refresh. But they were from verge of collapse. Something got shelvd again.
Trust me. My feet are resting on the table as I finger tap this reply our in my tiny iPhone.
Throck is a wound up ball of weirdness.

No, he isn't. I've read the threads where he has been ganged up on by yourself and others who insist that SRA is absolutely unnoticeable on the street and that IRS is pointless.

I've read so much BS from the diehard pro SRA people it's amazing that it's taken this long to have a thread about it.


For a serious driver IRS is an understandable requirement. Some people are willing to cave, pay less for more power, and give up handling and that's fine - but don't twist that into SRA being just as good as IRS.

 

[exdeath]

Its never an issue of whether or not IRS is superior to SRA; it is.

Its more that the people who keep nitpicking the issue are just a bunch of computer nerds who drive FWD Hondas who are purely arguing paper specs on cars they wont ever buy and still wanting a particular car to have something for the sake of having it.

Its literally the equivalent of boasting a motherboard is superior because it has 8 SATA ports instead of "just 6" when you only have 2 SATA devices anyway. Still gotta have it because that 8 looks better on paper or in a sig than only 6. Thats all IRS, DOHC, leaf spring, and strut arguments on this forum ever are; computer nerds jerking off to paper spec sheets to cars they don't have.

 

[Throckmorton]

Exactly, IRS is an understandable requirement. I got flamed for being an elitist because I wanted the Mustang to have IRS. It's like on this forum it's heresy to insult the almighty super engineered Ford solid axle that beat an M3 on a track!

 

[Throckmorton]

Its never an issue of whether or not IRS is superior to SRA; it is.

Its more that the people who keep nitpicking the issue are just a bunch of computer nerds who drive FWD Hondas who are purely arguing paper specs on cars they wont ever buy and still wanting a particular car to have something for the sake of having it.

Its literally the equivalent of boasting a motherboard is superior because it has 8 SATA ports instead of "just 6" when you only have 2 SATA devices anyway. Still gotta have it because that 8 looks better on paper or in a sig than only 6. Thats all IRS and DOHC and leaf spring arguments on this forum ever are.

That's ridiculous. This is a car forum and people on here are enthusiasts.

I've never even owned a FWD vehicle. All my vehicles have either been RWD sports cars or offroaders.