Be careful with opiods

[alanwest09872]

ever thought about recovery? it's pretty impressive you made it a month, but most addicts end up back on their drug of choice eventually.

I am not going to end up back on the meds. Life is so much better sober and clear headed. Im very happy now. My body is starting to get back to normal. Im laughing at funny things again. I think my endorphins are starting to pump back into my body. This is so much better then taking pills that dont even get me high anymore. If I really wanted to take the meds I could call a friend and have them here in 20mins. I dont wanna do that. Life is so much better now. I am feeling way less depressed and able to go and do things again is great. Yesterday I went to a movie. First time ive done that in about 3 years.

 

[Saint Nick]

Stick with it!

 

[SociallyChallenged]

I am not going to end up back on the meds. Life is so much better sober and clear headed. Im very happy now. My body is starting to get back to normal. Im laughing at funny things again. I think my endorphins are starting to pump back into my body. This is so much better then taking pills that dont even get me high anymore. If I really wanted to take the meds I could call a friend and have them here in 20mins. I dont wanna do that. Life is so much better now. I am feeling way less depressed and able to go and do things again is great. Yesterday I went to a movie. First time ive done that in about 3 years.

I think you need to stop telling yourself that you could have them here in 20min. You honestly can't because your life depends on it. As I said before, you should probably delete those numbers and throw away those pills. Getting the drugs should not be an option and the possibility needs to be eliminated. Are you seeing a rehab specialist about this? You definitely should.

It's definitely good to hear that you're feeling better and I commend you on returning to normal life. I just felt that I should point your mindset out to you because it seems, to me, to be a dangerous one.

 

[alanwest09872]

I did delete the numbers. Its just I know exactly where they live. Which makes it hard. I have no intention of buying any of them thou.

 

[alanwest09872]

Counting down to day 29. 13 days left of this hell then its all up hill. I really appreciate all the encouraging words that everyone has posted. It really does help. I know I can do this as long as I keep exercising and keeping a positive attitude. All I know is life is so much better off the meds. I just wish the diarrea would go away its only supposed to last 10 days and I am on day 29 now. It sucks.

 

[coreyb]

this is all great and positive. but i should point out again, addicts always end up back on something. i have many addict friends and family members. they've quit stuff for short terms, but always go back...wether it be pills, drinking, weed, etc.

 

[alanwest09872]

I have one big thing that will keep me clean and sober. My daughter. Plan and simple. I have to because I want back into her life. Before I could spend all day with her and I would be fine now its tough to do an 8 hour day. But its getting easier and easier every day. It is a legitamite concern and I will do everything in my power to stay clean. The one thing I wanna get addicted to is excersising. I need to get back into shape. I was very lean and very attractive before (9 months ago). I will get back to that point if it kills me. The only thing I plan on doing is alcohol. And that wont be till 6 months from now.

edit I do smoke cig thou

 

[wheresmybacon]

I commend your progress so far dude! I’d just like to offer a little anecdote you can either take with you or throw away as you will. I’m in recovery and I relate to your story.

As someone who’s tried and tried, and finally faced and beaten down the demons that damn near killed me, let me just say that they will come back. Not to poop in your Cheerios, just offering some reality. The thought that a pill or twelve might be nice will come back. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. And the concept of “beating” addiction is much more metaphoric than factual. It’s like beating diabetes; it’s more accurate to say one is keeping it at bay.

There are some people – not many, but some – who are fine with quitting something like booze or opioids or uppers or whatever on will power and will power alone. I would estimate the success rates of the Will Power Crowd as being in or near the single digits. Very few can just hang on and white-knuckle it, ad infinitum. Eventually the lure is overpowering and we succumb to it, falling back into old ways. The reasons for this are many, but suffice to say that once we’re “in the shit” and are in a full-blown cycle of addiction, we actually have changed our brain chemistry such that using is damn near instinctual. So while you may feel great now, when the shit hits the fan, it’s good to be ready for war.

And this is why I suggest – at the minimum – some plan of attack. Whether it be outpatient treatment, counselors, NA, or all of the above, it’s a good idea. Especially since you’re not working. Do it now while you can. NA is free, and there are meetings everywhere.

I’ve had the unfortunate opportunity to attend more than a couple funerals of friends who’ve lost the addiction battle. I figure I was near death a couple times myself. It is a disease, and it’s progressive and fatal. Do yourself a favor and be one of the “high bottom” cases. Go to an NA meeting and talk with someone. The simple act of talking 1 on 1 with another person who knows what you’re going through is a very powerful thing. It certainly won’t hurt.

All my best,

Bacon

 

[marmasatt]

QFT. Powerful words, my man.

I commend your progress so far dude! I’d just like to offer a little anecdote you can either take with you or throw away as you will. I’m in recovery and I relate to your story.

As someone who’s tried and tried, and finally faced and beaten down the demons that damn near killed me, let me just say that they will come back. Not to poop in your Cheerios, just offering some reality. The thought that a pill or twelve might be nice will come back. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. And the concept of “beating” addiction is much more metaphoric than factual. It’s like beating diabetes; it’s more accurate to say one is keeping it at bay.

There are some people – not many, but some – who are fine with quitting something like booze or opioids or uppers or whatever on will power and will power alone. I would estimate the success rates of the Will Power Crowd as being in or near the single digits. Very few can just hang on and white-knuckle it, ad infinitum. Eventually the lure is overpowering and we succumb to it, falling back into old ways. The reasons for this are many, but suffice to say that once we’re “in the shit” and are in a full-blown cycle of addiction, we actually have changed our brain chemistry such that using is damn near instinctual. So while you may feel great now, when the shit hits the fan, it’s good to be ready for war.

And this is why I suggest – at the minimum – some plan of attack. Whether it be outpatient treatment, counselors, NA, or all of the above, it’s a good idea. Especially since you’re not working. Do it now while you can. NA is free, and there are meetings everywhere.

I’ve had the unfortunate opportunity to attend more than a couple funerals of friends who’ve lost the addiction battle. I figure I was near death a couple times myself. It is a disease, and it’s progressive and fatal. Do yourself a favor and be one of the “high bottom” cases. Go to an NA meeting and talk with someone. The simple act of talking 1 on 1 with another person who knows what you’re going through is a very powerful thing. It certainly won’t hurt.

All my best,

Bacon

 

[Sixguns]

this is all great and positive. but i should point out again, addicts always end up back on something. i have many addict friends and family members. they've quit stuff for short terms, but always go back...wether it be pills, drinking, weed, etc.

Way to see positive in life. I know this not to be true because I broke this same addiction over 1 year ago and I am not a addict of anything else. Someone else said in this post thats its all free will. That right there is keeping me away from something that runs my life, not me.

 

[BeauJangles]

Congrats on the good work thus far man. I have nothing beyond a simple voice of support to offer.

I commend your progress so far dude! I’d just like to offer a little anecdote you can either take with you or throw away as you will. I’m in recovery and I relate to your story.

As someone who’s tried and tried, and finally faced and beaten down the demons that damn near killed me, let me just say that they will come back. Not to poop in your Cheerios, just offering some reality. The thought that a pill or twelve might be nice will come back. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. And the concept of “beating” addiction is much more metaphoric than factual. It’s like beating diabetes; it’s more accurate to say one is keeping it at bay.

There are some people – not many, but some – who are fine with quitting something like booze or opioids or uppers or whatever on will power and will power alone. I would estimate the success rates of the Will Power Crowd as being in or near the single digits. Very few can just hang on and white-knuckle it, ad infinitum. Eventually the lure is overpowering and we succumb to it, falling back into old ways. The reasons for this are many, but suffice to say that once we’re “in the shit” and are in a full-blown cycle of addiction, we actually have changed our brain chemistry such that using is damn near instinctual. So while you may feel great now, when the shit hits the fan, it’s good to be ready for war.

And this is why I suggest – at the minimum – some plan of attack. Whether it be outpatient treatment, counselors, NA, or all of the above, it’s a good idea. Especially since you’re not working. Do it now while you can. NA is free, and there are meetings everywhere.

I’ve had the unfortunate opportunity to attend more than a couple funerals of friends who’ve lost the addiction battle. I figure I was near death a couple times myself. It is a disease, and it’s progressive and fatal. Do yourself a favor and be one of the “high bottom” cases. Go to an NA meeting and talk with someone. The simple act of talking 1 on 1 with another person who knows what you’re going through is a very powerful thing. It certainly won’t hurt.

All my best,

Bacon

Fucking-A. Great post.

 

[alanwest09872]

I know I am going to get cravings through out my life especially over the next couple of years. But those cravings wont and I repeat wont be more powerful then my will power to quit for my daughter. I know its going to hunt me for a while but I am clean now and I am going to stay that way and nothing is going to change that. I havent taken a lortab for over a year. My main addiction has been tramadol and suboxne over the last year. (which is much easier to get off of then lortabs the rls isnt anywhere near as bad). I dont look forward to these future cravings but I am looking forward to the future. I am making plans with my life and I plan on completing them. I need to get off these things for good just because of the depression that it sets in me. Its so bad and I wont go back to that. I am able to do things with my life now that a month ago I couldn't.

Just a question for you. How long did it take for your endorphins to really start kicking back in. I am just wondering when I can get back to a normal mind set. I read it can take up to 2 years for your body to adjust. I think it will be less for me do to the fact I havent taken a lortab in over a year. Tramadol isnt as powerful as lortabs are.

I really appreciate your post you def took your time with it. I am ready for the war thats coming. I know that these cravings wont go away easy. I have actually had several cravings. Usually when I play with my daughter. I was the type of father that spent all his time with his kid after the opiods that changed. I am working on changing that back. What I do now about these cravings is go outside smoke a cig and calm myself down. If I do this then usually the craving supsides in a few minutes. Up to about 10. Then Im usually good to go for at least another 30 mins of play time.

What my plans are for the future. Starting all these in 6 months or before
1. Get at least an rn degree if not a physicians assistant degree starting jan (besides my English and grammar and reading skill I am actually very intelligent I remember damn near everything)
2. Stop smoking in 6 months
3. Spend more Time with my daughter starting right away
4. Get off of social security disability (for sever depression) starting asap
5. Get my life back togeather starting asap

 

[maziwanka]

best of luck man. glad to hear you taking positive steps

 

[alanwest09872]

On day 30. I made it a month. Woot. Never thought this day would come. I am so happy. Still sick to my stomach and still having problems sleeping but those are of little consequence. I am willing to give up sleep to be clean. If I did it anyone can. One recommendation is if you are addicted to lortabs or vicodin then switch to tramadol for 2 months then quit. The withdraws arnt as bad as hardcore opiods. Its much more manageable. The RLS wasnt as bad. The RLS is the worse for opiod addicts. Its enough to drive someone crazy.

Well thats it for now. 12 days left of major withdraw then its all down hill. I made it this long on sheer force of will and I will continue to do so.

ps. I am also getting my sex drive back again. Now I just need to loose 40 lbs to use it again lol.

 

[alanwest09872]

I am on day 31 now. Things are going well except the lack of sleep and the stomach problems. Its tough but I will get through this. I cant wait till I get a full nights sleep.

 

[alanwest09872]

On day 32 now. I got a good nights sleep last nite. Still sick to my stomach thou. Things were rough this morning. But I feel better now.

 

[Jeff7181]

I have one big thing that will keep me clean and sober. My daughter. Plan and simple. I have to because I want back into her life. Before I could spend all day with her and I would be fine now its tough to do an 8 hour day. But its getting easier and easier every day. It is a legitamite concern and I will do everything in my power to stay clean. The one thing I wanna get addicted to is excersising. I need to get back into shape. I was very lean and very attractive before (9 months ago). I will get back to that point if it kills me. The only thing I plan on doing is alcohol. And that wont be till 6 months from now.

edit I do smoke cig thou

Really? You think you're going to make good decisions when drunk? I think you're headed for a relapse sooner than you think with that mindset.

 

[alanwest09872]

I can assure you I dont really get drunk. I get buzzed but thats about it. And I always walk home no driving. Even if I do happen to get drunk that wont make me take lortabs or any kind of opiods. I really dont drink that much. I drink beer and I dont drink enough to say so. Just enough that I can meet new people (women mostly). Its easier with a beer in your hand then a coke.

I thank you for your concern. Plus this wont be for another 6 months from now. I need to loose a bit of weight first. Unfortunely I am sick as a dog today so no excersising.

 

[wheresmybacon]

You'll find folks who may relate better to your experience on another forum. Not that people don't mean well, it's just "talking" to folks who've been there, in my experience, is an entirely different and positive deal.

Forums here helped me a lot when I was just getting going on piecing my life back together:

http://www.soberrecovery.com/

 

[alanwest09872]

Thanks but I dont really need support anymore. Im just counting down days now because I said I would. Im doing really well now. Yesterday was rough. Im not used to being sick without pain meds it sucks. Every muscle was hurting in my body. On day 33 now and I feel alot better. I think I was sick because I didnt take my xendarine for a few days. (tyrisine is in xendarine. Tyrisine helps release dopamine in the brain the same stuff thats in opiods. Dont worry thou its just a vitamin that helps with the release. Theres no addictive quaitys. Its apart of the thomas recipe. Great guide for anyone thats trying to get off of opiods. I wish I would have done it.

Anyone that has addiction to opiods If I can quit so can you its not easy. Infact its very difficult but I am not a strong person right now I am very weak and I was able to do it so can you. Life is better off the opiods trust me.

I just wanna say to that i appreciate your concern thou and the fact that you took the time to post really means alot. Thank you

 

[Jeff7181]

A month sober and saying you don't need support and can handle alcohol. This has relapse written all over it.

 

[alanwest09872]

I dont plan on drinking for another 6 months. Thats plenty of time to heal. Plus like I said before I dont get stupid drunk. I have support from my family and friends. There all happy that I am off and are aways up for a chat when I need it. I went through the hell of withdraw once I wont be doing it again!

 

[alanwest09872]

Well found out why I have felt like crape the past couple of days. I got strep throat. This sucks Im not used to being sick without the opiods

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Well found out why I have felt like crape the past couple of days. I got strep throat. This sucks Im not used to being sick without the opiods

You know being on any kind of drug long term makes your immune system suck right?

 

[coreyb]

A month sober and saying you don't need support and can handle alcohol. This has relapse written all over it.

this was the point I was trying to make earlier. everyone is trying to support him, but one month really isn't shit when it comes to addiction and he's a pill or a drink away from his entire life falling apart again.

just give it time. he needs recovery.