Be forewarned: The next person to say to my face "America had it coming" in relation to 9-11

[Fastball]

<< Come on guys, let's follow LOB and take that Machine Gun Nest!!! >>



I guess you're in favor of the Civil Liberties Union too, right?

 

[GodBlessTheUSA]

<< Hey, instead of talking a mean game why don't you do something about it and join the Armed Services. >>


Already been there, thanks.


<< What purpose what hitting someone serve, assuming you can even muster the strength to do so? >>


#1, the purpose will be to possiblyt knock some sense into a non-sensical person. #2, I would not have a problem mustering strength so that's not a problem.

Next!

 

[Lalakai]

Sorry Vespasian, but it's a matter of record. I think it's referred to as the "Tuskogee Incident".

 

[Red Dawn]

<< I guess you're in favor of the Civil Liberties Union too, right? >>

Why would you say that, because I openly mock the foolish Bravado that little dweebs like you display as if it's something to be admired instead of ridiculed for what it is, plain old dumb ass BS? Sorry, I don't see the correlation.

 

[Red Dawn]

<< Already been there, thanks. >>

Removes LOB from the list of Dweebs in this thread

 

[UltraQuiet]

Peace demonstration

I meant to link this a couple of weeks ago. Read the whole article. There was a little bit of an uproar here about what the cop said to the demonstrators.

 

[Big Bwana]

<< We intentionally target civilians? Are you smoking crack or are you just stupid? >>



segregation...WW2 "relocation camps"...McCarthyism...racial profiling...

hell, the fact that hate crimes happen at all is an indicator of certain public sentiments so it should be no surprise
that our 'for the people by the people' government reflects some of the unpleasantness that exists.

BB

 

[charrison]

When did the blame America crowd get so large here?

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Luckily there are no civilians living in Afghanistan, or some might have died during the bombings.
Oh wait, I forgot, it's only bad when Americans die right?

I talked to some rightwing white Texans (right as in: they think Bush is a leftist bastard) after the WTC crash, and they were like 'So a few people died there, like we care, thousands more die each year to car crashes and shootings, why is this so much worse?'
They were in favour of retaliating, but they also doubted the usefulness of random bomb civilians while the real target can slip away.

 

[Red Dawn]

<< I think it's referred to as the "Tuskogee Incident". >>

What? Excuse me, can you please enlighten us about what the hell it is you are talking about?

 

[Lalakai]

I don't think the "Blame America" crowd grew. Rather, going to war based on actions that we have committed ourselves, then calling the other person a terrorist; it's bit like the "pot calling the kettle black". Our response though is justified and appropriate; just make certain we are doing it for the right reason.

 

[charrison]

Skyclad1uhm1

Fortunatly who ever you spoke with does not represent the general population of texas.

 

[JeremiahTheGreat]

<< We intentionally target civilians? Are you smoking crack or are you just stupid? >>



HHhahahahHHAhahaHAHAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAhahAKEkekekHAHAHhahaahHHAHAHahahHHAhHAhaHAhAhahahhahhaaahahHAHHAhahahaHAHahahHahaHhhhhH!!!!!!!!!

Look at what you did to Japan using Nukes, didn't intentially target civilians MY ARSE. The EXACT same argument can be used, why did America choose a town full of civialians to bomb the crap out of and not some military/government establishment? Because you want to show the world your power..


The US is such a stuckup pompus country.. PULL YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASS AND START USING IT!!!

<using my right to bag a country of my choice, please do it to mine>

No-one deserves to be killed ("without reason" - you have to read George Owell's Animal farm to really understand the reason for the quotation), No-one deserves to be punished who were not involved.. sheeeeesssshshh, why can't both sides stick to this rule rather than turn a blind eye when the situation doesn't suite them.


NOTE - this post was meant to get lots of angry responses.. plz do it. Feel free to speak what's REALLY in your head rather than be afraid that you'll get bashed, that's what the internet is for. What you really feel..

 

[charrison]

Lalakai,

And what may I ask, are the actions that lead to this?
Our foriegn policy is far from perfect, but it has done more positive than negative.

 

[Elledan]

Okay, here goes:

With the US's 'assistance' to certain minorities in foreign countries whose presence in more influentual circles in that country would gain the US a political and/or strategical advantage, the US has angered several groups of people. Since the US does not appear to be willing to listen to reason (or common sense), only a terrorist attack could draw enough attention to their cause.
It wasn't a matter of whether the US would be attacked, but when.

Happy now?

 

[charrison]

Elledan,

Since when did any country in the middle east have reason or common sense?

By your logic, we can only have a foriegn policy which makes all parties happy, but you must know, this is not possible.

 

[Rogue]

Is GBTU related in any way to GUTB? Perhaps....

While it's fine to feel that way about something, to do it will land your ass in jail. Freedom of speech is something that we're entitled to in this nation, good or bad, right or wrong, bold or meek. It gives you the right to tell them they are an outright @sshole if you see fit. We as a nation quite frequently exercise our freedom of speech to condone the actions of other countries, of which we focus a lot of our energies on Arab nations. We chastised the Taliban for years about their treatment of their people, but did nothing much more than verbally denounce it. We talked about terrorist networks not being able to do the things they've done and look, they punched us in the mouth for underestimating them, for ridiculing them and for denouncing them. It's done nothing but force us to punch back.

Now, to the naysayers, let me say this. I am currently assigned as an Active Duty Military Police Officer in the United States Army. I am anything but a pacifist, liberal, whining ass you might choose to label me as. I do what I do because I love to do it. In fact, I was out of the Army Reserve when 9/11 hit and I went right back down and got back in to serve the call. I am conducting law enforcement duties as a police officer rather than field duties as an MP running POW camps, etc. in the field. Given the chance though, I would go kill my fair share of the enemy under orders with little or no question. However, I also realize that if you hit me for what I said, you're going to jail and my freedom of speech will be that much more intact. Hitting you back only lands me in jail still listening to your dumb ass continue on about how you think what I've said is stupid and you'd hit me again if you get the chance. See? It's just an ass biting circle.

A true patriot has no need to wave a flag or put on a bumper sticker or get a tattoo. In my opinion (key word there, opinion) a true patriot serves his/her country steadfastly and without question in whatever way they possibly can. They don't work to defile, demoralize or demote the things that made that country what it is today. That is what you aim to do, break down the very freedoms that so many before you fought for patriotically.

 

[Random Variable]

<< Luckily there are no civilians living in Afghanistan, or some might have died during the bombings.
Oh wait, I forgot, it's only bad when Americans die right?

I talked to some rightwing white Texans (right as in: they think Bush is a leftist bastard) after the WTC crash, and they were like 'So a few people died there, like we care, thousands more die each year to car crashes and shootings, why is this so much worse?'
They were in favour of retaliating, but they also doubted the usefulness of random bomb civilians while the real target can slip away. >>


So we have to wait until suitcase nukes obliterate several U.S. cities and kill millions of Americans before we can defend ourselves? :|

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

<< Elledan,

Since when did any country in the middle east have reason or common sense?

By your logic, we can only have a foriegn policy which makes all parties happy, but you must know, this is not possible. >>



The US never looks at what might make all parties happy, or even most parties, it just looks at what might be the most profitable to the US. If Kuwait would have had oil they'd be part of Iraq now. If Osama hadn't been hiding in Afghanistan the Taliban would still hold the power there. When the Hutus and Tutsis slaughtered eachother the rich countries said 'Bad boys!', but no one bothered intervening cause there was nothing to get there.

Humanity does not care for lives, it only cares for profit. Guess we're just Ferengi (Or actually: )

 

[Grunt03]

" Is going to get punched in the mouth."

Followed by a Swift kick in the " Ding Ding"...........

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

<<

<< Luckily there are no civilians living in Afghanistan, or some might have died during the bombings.
Oh wait, I forgot, it's only bad when Americans die right?

I talked to some rightwing white Texans (right as in: they think Bush is a leftist bastard) after the WTC crash, and they were like 'So a few people died there, like we care, thousands more die each year to car crashes and shootings, why is this so much worse?'
They were in favour of retaliating, but they also doubted the usefulness of random bomb civilians while the real target can slip away. >>


So we have to wait until suitcase nukes obliterate several U.S. cities and kill millions of Americans before we can defend ourselves? :| >>



Might have been wise to actually target those responsible rather than just bombing some civilians in order to keep up the pretence of retaliation. Only problem there is that we had no idea where Osama was back then, and we have no idea where he is now.

 

[charrison]

Skyclad1uhm1,

You are right, had we no political interests in those regions you mentioned, they probably would have been left alone.
We will hunt bin laden down, no matter what country he goes to.
Kuwait and saudi are trading partners, and we defended them at their request.

This is not a mistake in policy.

 

[khtm]

<< Is going to get punched in the mouth. >>



You, sir, are an asshat.

 

[Random Variable]

<< Might have been wise to actually target those responsible rather than just bombing some civilians in order to keep up the pretence of retaliation. >>


You're delusional. I don't know why I'm even arguing with you.

 

[charrison]

Skyclad1uhm1,

We have been far more selective in targets, that bin laden who has only targeted civilians.