Bear in national park kills hiker snapping its picture. Officials kill bear. WTF?

[EagleKeeper]

The man was to blame for inciting the animal and deserves his fate, imo. But I agree with everyone else - the animal had to be destroyed.

It ticks me off royally how people don't respect wildlife. Virtually all my vacations are spent in national parks and I've seen it all - people, common sense be damned, getting as close to bison/moose/bears as possible for a "great" picture. I think the one that takes the cake was at Grand Teton national park. A mother bear was standing at the base of a small grove of aspens in which were her 3 cubs. A crowd quickly formed - I saw people getting within 10-15 feet of the mother bear - one lady with a little yappy dog in her arms. My wife & I got in the car and drove straight to the ranger station to report the stupid idiots. The sad thing is that the animals always pay the price even though the stupid humans are the ones to blame.

While visiting Yellowstone, there was a herd of bison crossing the road. the herd was being shepherded by a rangy old bull.

An idiot in a baja buggy decided the herd was to slow and leaned on his horn.
Pissed off the bull; who trotted over to the buggy.

Bull decided to teach that noisy thing a lesson and charged it.
Driver decided to make an quick exit stage back; climbing out the back and over the next vehicle behind him.

Bull hit the buggy, head to head, flipped it and trotted back to the herd with the fiberglass fender hanging off of a horn.

That is their territory; we are just visitors

 

[JulesMaximus]

The real problem is in a national park hunting is banned and causes the animals not to be afraid of humans. Hunting helps curb the aggressive in animals. I do agree with killing the bear because once they show aggression they are prone to do it again. So all you bleeding hearts out there need to think with your brain not your heart.

Where did you hear this bit of nonsense? First of all, hunting is regulated by each state but they do allow hunting in many national parks... yes, even in California.

Second, killing animals doesn't make them afraid of people. It is their natural instinct to fear what they don't know. I'd say that idiots prancing around in the woods with cameras and lunch baskets causes animals not to be afraid of humans.

 

[dougp]

The real problem is in a national park hunting is banned and causes the animals not to be afraid of humans. Hunting helps curb the aggressive in animals. I do agree with killing the bear because once they show aggression they are prone to do it again. So all you bleeding hearts out there need to think with your brain not your heart.

Hunting doesn't make an animal fear humans unless they're pack animals. Animals are afraid of humans, regardless, as they're different and unknown.

I find it funny you mention that the bleeding hearts should think with their brain, whereas the "victims" of animal violence in a natural setting tend to not be thinking with their brains. When you're in the WILD and there's a CARNIVORE, you should assume that the CARNIVORE will eat you, even if you're a human.

 

[Pheran]

It's a carnivore - WTF do you expect?

Bears are omnivores, not carnivores. Of course that doesn't change the fact that they will eat meat, possibly including people.

 

[slayer202]

Ttiwwp

 

[highland145]

Ttiwwp

 

[dougp]

Bears are omnivores, not carnivores. Of course that doesn't change the fact that they will eat meat, possibly including people.

Yah, I figured someone would correct me on that, I should have just said predators since that's what I meant in general. Bears are part of the Carnivora order, but are also considered opportunistic omnivores. "Oh look a human, I'm hungry - and he's right here! Great opportunity!"

 

[amdhunter]

No wonder they killed it. If it were a polar bear, you'd better believe it would still be alive.

 

[highland145]

No wonder they killed it. If it were a polar bear, you'd better believe it would still be alive.

Well, of course.

 

[MontyAC]

San Diego TV station report:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/19379111/...-grizzly-bear-in-alaskas-denali-national-park

 

[Thebobo]

Where did you hear this bit of nonsense? First of all, hunting is regulated by each state but they do allow hunting in many national parks... yes, even in California.

Second, killing animals doesn't make them afraid of people. It is their natural instinct to fear what they don't know. I'd say that idiots prancing around in the woods with cameras and lunch baskets causes animals not to be afraid of humans.

Any national park at least for us civilians.

yea its like bam your dead now your afraid of me!

 

[NFS4]

Ttiwwp

 

[rh71]

I've never actually been near a bear but it seems 100 yards (general length of a football field) would be far enough - and even further if he had zoom if that's the way they determined his distance. Any closer and he is just asking for it.

 

[unokitty]

"Fear of attacks on humans has inspired folklore, superstition, legends and tales characterizing large predatory animals capable of killing and eating humans as evil. The Jersey shore shark attacks inspired the use of sharks as symbols of evil, enemies in political cartoons, and caricatures of all kinds of negative events."

Its a shame that the bear had to be put down because a human couldn't distinguish between a National Park and a Petting Zoo.

Chances are if the human would have followed the rules and kept their distance, both he and the bear would still be alive.

Only Hollywood and a few "hunters" benefit from the folklore, superstition, and tales associated with man killing animals. The reality is that very, very, few animals will knowingly attack a healthy human.

Though, with the right training and the right handler its amazing what an animal can do.

Uno
Sentry Dog Handler
US Army '69-'71

 

[Nintendesert]

This sounds like some really backwards thinking. A wild animal kills a man in the wild? Thus he doesnt show fear and must be killed? Sounds way too simpleton for my taste. How about we realize being in the wild means we arent the top of the food chain anymore? If a bear mauls somebody stupid enough to take pics from a couple hundred feet away we wash our hands of it and chalk it up to nature.

I'm always at the top of the food chain.

 

[DrPizza]

Ahhh, read the article. Grizzly bear. Stay away! Black bears are very docile in comparison. (I've been within 10-15 feet of black bears several times; within reach of a black bear and her cub once.) If a black bear sees you from 50 to 100 yards away before you see it, you won't see it. Just a couple weeks ago, we had one 25 yards from us - got a glimpse of something moving through a thick area. If it wasn't for a game camera set up for pre-season scouting, we'd have never known for certain that it was a bear.

The claw marks in a tree about 50 yards from my brother's tree stand are incredible - if you see those claw marks, you know how much power a bear has behind those claws. And, once you see a bear climb a tree, you know how silly it is to suggest climbing a tree to keep away from a bear - they climb a hell of a lot faster than you can go up a flight of stairs.

 

[Jeffg010]

Where did you hear this bit of nonsense? First of all, hunting is regulated by each state but they do allow hunting in many national parks... yes, even in California.

Second, killing animals doesn't make them afraid of people. It is their natural instinct to fear what they don't know. I'd say that idiots prancing around in the woods with cameras and lunch baskets causes animals not to be afraid of humans.

http://www.nps.gov/dena/parkmgmt/hunting-information.htm
Lets get one thing straight:
Sport hunting is prohibited within Denali National Park, including designated wilderness lands and the 1980 park additions. Sport hunting is only permitted within Denali National Preserve.

Second: http://www.whistlingwings.net/blog/...his-hunting-wolves-make-them-scared-of-humans

"I have been in extremely remote areas of Alaska where animals have never seen a human, never heard a gun shot and they walked right up to me. If I moved suddenly they would back off and come back. Not only the moose, deer and small game did this the bears and wolves did also. One big brown bear kept coming after several of us fired warning shots. He made several passes towards us despite magnum rifles going off. It was an unnerving situation and gladly we didn’t have to kill the bear. But I have been in areas where brown bear cubs grew up that got to see other game shot by humans as well as brown bears. Fire a rifle there and that bear runs for its life. Because it was conditioned to do so from human contact.
So if you have a park in Montana where you cant shoot bears they could become dangerously imprinted that humans are nothing to fear."

 

[DCal430]

Where did you hear this bit of nonsense? First of all, hunting is regulated by each state but they do allow hunting in many national parks... yes, even in California.

Second, killing animals doesn't make them afraid of people. It is their natural instinct to fear what they don't know. I'd say that idiots prancing around in the woods with cameras and lunch baskets causes animals not to be afraid of humans.

The LAST national park in California to allow Hunting was Channel Island National Park, and as of last year it has been banned. No national park in California currently allows hunting.

Infact it was the ONLY national park to allow hunting for many many decades, You can't even go fishing at the national parks in California. Their are signs strictly prohibiting it, you can only do catch and release.

 

[Jeffg010]

The LAST national park in California to allow Hunting was Channel Island National Park, and as of last year it has been banned. No national park in California currently allows hunting.

Don't bring facts into this discussion mister!

 

[jagec]

How about we realize being in the wild means we arent the top of the food chain anymore?

We're ALWAYS at the top of the food chain if we have our tools. The bear killed someone who didn't have the right tools, and so they sent in someone who did. Instead of running away now that it was no longer at the top of the food chain, the bear stayed put and got shot.

 

[OutHouse]

The man was to blame for inciting the animal and deserves his fate

the guy deserved to be mauled to death just for taking its picture?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

http://videosift.com/video/Idiot-Tourists-vs-Bison

 

[JulesMaximus]

The LAST national park in California to allow Hunting was Channel Island National Park, and as of last year it has been banned. No national park in California currently allows hunting.

Infact it was the ONLY national park to allow hunting for many many decades, You can't even go fishing at the national parks in California. Their are signs strictly prohibiting it, you can only do catch and release.

Maybe I'm mistaking a national forest for a national park? But I know for a fact you can hunt in the Sequoia National Forest.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/recreation/fishing.html

Welcome to the Sequoia National Forest and the Giant Sequoia National Monument recreational fishing and hunting web page.

Hunting is allowed on Forest Service land inside Sequoia National Forest and Giant Sequoia National Monument. All hunters must be licensed with the California Department of Fish and Game and also possess a license tag when hunting deer and other big game.

A few things for hunters and others to know:
•California does not have a blaze orange law. But if you will be hiking during hunting season (typically during the fall months) please consider wearing something bright orange for safety! Also, staying on trails or on roads and hiking with a partner are wise decisions.
•Hunting is not allowed in neighboring Sequoia & Kings Canyon National Parks. Make sure you have a good map of the area!
•It is illegal to shoot from a road, across a road, across a body of water, within 150 yards of a campground or other structure or occupied area, or if endangering any person or property.
•Hunting and shooting hours are from one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset (exception: upland game bird hunting ends at sunset)
•Deer meat cannot be wasted - report an incident if you see deer being abandoned or dumped. Hunters cannot sell the game they shoot.
•Baiting is illegal (i.e. laying salt blocks; leaving food stations, etc.)
•Hunters should be warned about leaving deer unattended at camp as it invites theft and possible bear problems.
•If you are camping outside a developed campground you will be required to have a campfire permit in order to have a campfire or charcoal BBQ. They can be picked up free of charge from any Forest Service, California Department of Forestry (CDF), or Bureau of Land Management (BLM) office.
For more information and a complete listing of regulations, please contact:
California Department of Fish & Game
1234 E. Shaw Avenue
Fresno 93710
(559) 243-4005
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wmd/

 

[NuclearNed]

the guy deserved to be mauled to death just for taking its picture?

The man was too close. From the bear's point of view, the man was being aggressive.

Let's put it in another light... if you noticed a man following you, paying close attention to you and your movements from 50-100 yards away, it might be reasonable to assume that the man was stalking you. You would most likely take precautions to protect yourself. That's exactly what the bear did. The difference is that to you "protecting yourself" might mean hiding or evading the man. To a bear, it means something different.

 

[OutHouse]

http://videosift.com/video/Idiot-Tourists-vs-Bison

yea that fuckstick would not be laughing if the buffalo had his kids head stuck on his horn.