Beautiful Watercooled System

[Ballashoes]

Not sure if this has been posted or not but this is a great looking watercooled system that everyone should see.

Murderbox

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Ballashoes
Not sure if this has been posted or not but this is a great looking watercooled system that everyone should see.

Murderbox

all my setups including my NAS, and my CM690 would spank it in cooling.

DD block = very poor design and poor choice out of all the FC blocks.

the Radiator could of been upgraded to a PA120.3 series. Which would of helped it a lot.

8800GTX + Quadcore overclocked on a PA120.2 = nightmares when everything is loaded. Very poor choice in radiators for such a nice system.



In my eyes... beautiful = multi loop monstrosities meshed into sync order to cool everything very successfully. Most of the time modding is required.


Incase someone is wondering about the cooling hardware its as follows:

D-tek fusion CPU block
DD FC 8800 block
PA120.2 from the looks of it
Liang D5 aka Swiftech 655
1/2 tubing with a T line.


Very simple setup in side a TJ-07. I know for a fact you can fit this inside tho because ive had it:

ApogeeGT <sorry the GTX wasnt out yet... neither was the fusion when i had this case>
PA120.3
DDC-2 Originals x 2
MCR220
2 x Swiftech micro RES.
2 x EK FC blocks. <--- much better


So i guess you can see why i call it Lacking... You'll probably end up paying 2x tho if you buy it prebuilt.

Also my main Queen would run laps around this setup. My pump alone most likely costs more then half his setup

 

[LOUISSSSS]

probably cost a ton

i wouldn't pay for any of it for the marginal gains in performance and prettyness.

sure looks neat tho.

 

[yanquii]

I wonder how much hed charge to wire my case..

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: yanquii
I wonder how much hed charge to wire my case..

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...word1=cable+management



Crap we need to get a mod to resticky that.... it was a very useful guide for the newbies.

 

[Corporate Thug]

lets call a spade a spade: that TJ07 is clean as all hell.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
lets call a spade a spade: that TJ07 is clean as all hell.

As i said ive had a better TJ-07. There are TONS of better TJ-07 on XS.

Its very lacking.... And most of all, it looks 2x more expensive then its worth.

 

[gingerstewart55]

You've got that right, aigomorla. If anyone would spend some time looking around XS and the systems some have spent some time creating, they'd dismiss this POS and absolutely marvel at what some real enthusiasts have done.....for nothing more than self-satisfaction, not a quick buck.

And the radiator inside this box seems rather overpowered for its size.....would have thought a 3 x 120 rad would have been put inside....since it promotes itself as the pinnacle of performance....LOL!


Just gotta love their fascination with 90 degree elbows, though!

 

[WoodButcher]

I agree w/ you ginger on those 90's , in my TJ-08 I was forced to use a couple but mine is a dual pump, dual rad in a MATX case, that's a full tower for pete's sake! I don't like to put down others work cause it sounds like sour grapes, but,,,,
hey,
it's pretty :laugh:

 

[Raider1284]

these units go for around 7k i believe. Hes sold 7 of them and has orders for about 8 more.

You guys can diss it all ya want but this guy is making bank of of these units. Many people care more about looks and sound compared to performance. Considering many vendors sell vastly inferior water cooled sets for the same price this guy is quite ingenious.

90 degree turns dont really affect performance that much either btw.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Raider1284
these units go for around 7k i believe. Hes sold 7 of them and has orders for about 8 more.

You guys can diss it all ya want but this guy is making bank of of these units. Many people care more about looks and sound compared to performance. Considering many vendors sell vastly inferior water cooled sets for the same price this guy is quite ingenious.

90 degree turns dont really affect performance that much either btw.

Doesnt effect performance eh?

http://www.overclock.net/galle.../ElbowsTrioPDcurve.jpg

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...65383&highlight=elbows


That would show otherwise....



EDIT: incase you guys are wondering. Yes i am an owner of Martin's mother of all elbows. i have 4 on me. And 1 martin T. Martin is also working on a after rad tec heat exchanger for me. Which i hope to play with low voltage high capacity tec's(3 of them next to each other) to see if i can tweek my system in lowering anywhere from 2-15C off my load temps with a dial.




this is where watercooling goes after you've done/played with it all.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
You've got that right, aigomorla. If anyone would spend some time looking around XS and the systems some have spent some time creating, they'd dismiss this POS and absolutely marvel at what some real enthusiasts have done.....for nothing more than self-satisfaction, not a quick buck.

And the radiator inside this box seems rather overpowered for its size.....would have thought a 3 x 120 rad would have been put inside....since it promotes itself as the pinnacle of performance....LOL!


Just gotta love their fascination with 90 degree elbows, though!

i love the work that the people do over at XS, and I've seen them all. But they dont compare to this guy, at least aesthetically.

 

[MegaVovaN]

I admit, I am a complete newb on water cooling parts, but the system is beautiful. Good matching of colors, not screaming...exactly how I like. Kind of elite that is confident in itself, and doesn't need cheap flash.

 

[PCTC2]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

In my eyes... beautiful = multi loop monstrosities meshed into sync order to cool everything very successfully. Most of the time modding is required.

Very simple setup in side a TJ-07. I know for a fact you can fit this inside tho because ive had it:

ApogeeGT <sorry the GTX wasnt out yet... neither was the fusion when i had this case>
PA120.3
DDC-2 Originals x 2
MCR220
2 x Swiftech micro RES.
2 x EK FC blocks. <--- much better

Then there's the monstrosities over at XS with PA120.3's and PA120.2's in the TJ07, or even a BIX 120.4 in the TJ07.

But I definitely agree with Aigo.
I love this custom Lian-Li v2000

 

[aigomorla]

okey since you guys really think its that beautiful... i'll pick at it and show you ALL the FLAWS with it.

1. The outlet from pump to GPU block. USes a T but the thing is the T has the wrong output to GPU. Now thats a hugh presure drop at the start level.

2. Use of a 90 on the Outlet of the GPU block. WHY? he could of just rolled the tubing down for a better bend and use blue tube coils to add even a nicer splash of blue to it.

3. Radiator has a T and a 90. Uhhhh.. once again. in a T the top part has the least obstruction. You do not Use the Bottom of the T as the outlet.

4. The radiator is too small. The PA120.2 only has a cooling power of around 350-400 at most You DEFINITELY NEED A BIGGER RAD For a Quad+ G80 config.

5. His components expecially board level is missing board cooling options. IE. he has no air running over the mosfets on a shitty lvl 680i Dont get me started on this.



Beautiful huh? It really looks like an eye sore to me.

 

[Quiksilver]

The color scheme and paint is nice, but cooling wise its underfed for the price you would have to pay for it.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

Like said before not everyone cares about how well it performs. I personally like it, just because it is very pleasing to the eyes. And the elbows, and T's wont make enough of a difference for anyone to care, or see a difference if they were not there. What maybe 1-2c? Thats not enough to make a difference.

 

[CurseTheSky]

The system is interesting, but it's definately not for me.

Don't get me wrong. It LOOKS great. It's worth every penny to someone who doesn't have the time or expertise to design their own system. However, for a high-end system like that, I'd prefer screaming performance. Once you have the best processor, memory, graphics card, and other hardware, overclocking is the only way to go. Even 5C load for an overclocker is huge. For that kind of money, I want the best water cooling I can get.

Not to mention, I would never sink $7k into something that will be less-than-impressive in a year or two. You CAN upgrade everything inside of it little by little, but good luck getting it to look the way it does when you got it. And for all that trouble, why not build it yourself? Essentially, you're paying $2k for parts (just guessing, didn't look at the actual specs), and $5k for someone to wire it for you.

My two cents.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
Like said before not everyone cares about how well it performs. I personally like it, just because it is very pleasing to the eyes. And the elbows, and T's wont make enough of a difference for anyone to care, or see a difference if they were not there. What maybe 1-2c? Thats not enough to make a difference.

tyler read my flaws on the case... then go take a look at the picture again while making note of the flaws.

Your going to say OMGWTFBBQ. The loop is absolutely terrible. The guy has no idea on flow and head pressure conservation.


I can make a prettier one then this since you guys think its all nice cuz its so rediculously simple. It uses a company called Koolance or AquaComputers.

It wont have any head on performance, but it would look 50 times riced up then this rig would.


You guys, whats the point in watercooling if you dont get the added benfits. Whats the point in going though all the trouble of migrating, and spending almost double if not tripple of what you would spend on air if you dont see a leap in performance.

This setup has no concept of performance. Just bling. Stay on AIR. Dont get bought up into this crap please.

RAWR:

My setups:
CM690
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0862.jpg


My U2:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0721.jpg


My Armor: I use a 90 elbow, but im running 2 pumps. Something He's not. And each of my DDC-2 has greater head pressure then 1 of his D5.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0574.jpg


My stacker:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0406.jpg


I have one more inside a Lian Li V2000, but i never took pictures of it.




And yes each of my setups would rape his on performance.


So its CRAP. You guys are marveling at crap, expecially because he can easily fix it but he obviously wants the bling.

You want to spend 7k on this rig? go ahead. I'll show you one for half that price that would put this rig into serious shame. Vapoli ring a bell?? for 7k why not just phase.

Errrr Tylers old rig would put this rig into shame and that wasnt half the price. Unless he got raped on the price for nol's unit.

 

[Corporate Thug]

aigomorla, I dont think anyone in this thread said that the murderbox is a good buy or that they are planning on buying it. And I'm sure you setups will "rape" this one, but from a purely aesthetic perspective, the murderbox is very well done.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
aigomorla, I dont think anyone in this thread said that the murderbox is a good buy or that they are planning on buying it. And I'm sure you setups will "rape" this one, but from a purely aesthetic perspective, the murderbox is very well done.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...d.php?t=34877&page=201

please look at the work of cyber druid. I am trying to buy some of his time for his work on a project of mine

That is the kind of custom work i see as beautful in both aestetics and performance.


It is clean tho. I'll admit to that.


Look at ConMan's build also please post #5128. That is a proper TJ-07.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...d.php?t=34877&page=206

 

[tylerdustin2008]

Thug hit it right on the money.

Oh and yea my last rig would kill any and I mean any water cooling setup out there. I was idling at -50c.... loading at -47 to -48. TO bad I had to sell it to get a portable computer.

I miss her though! I would give anything to get her back.


Look at this beast.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
Thug hit it right on the money.

Oh and yea my last rig would kill any and I mean any water cooling setup out there. I was idling at -50c.... loading at -47 to -48. TO bad I had to sell it to get a portable computer.

I miss her though! I would give anything to get her back.


Look at this beast.

what u got running there?

 

[PCTC2]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
Thug hit it right on the money.

Oh and yea my last rig would kill any and I mean any water cooling setup out there. I was idling at -50c.... loading at -47 to -48. TO bad I had to sell it to get a portable computer.

I miss her though! I would give anything to get her back.


Look at this beast.

what u got running there?

Tyler's Phase-change cooled UFO. It should have a thread around here somewhere.

@Tyler. You have to sell it? Come on! Just tighten your belt for a month or so. That's what I did...

 

[MarcVenice]

I haven't seen you link to a watercooled case that looked as good as the murderbox. I think you are confusing performance with beauty. The murderbox looks clean as hell, with straight bends, that somehow all fit together. It's not so much that the other cases are ugly, this case just looks as a work of art, with the pencil stripes laid out perfectly, but then with tubes. The blue sata connectors add to it as well ...