Behold My Antec Surgery!!!

[AnitaPeterson]

OP, your syntax is baffling. Are you by any chance of East-Asian origins?

I'm only curious, because every time you post, your thought processes seem to be very convoluted. You seem to be well-educated, but needlessly complicate things, and your text constructions don't always follow proper English-language rules. I've only seen this in Korean and Indian graduate students... I don't get the vibe that you're Russian or East-European, and you don't build your phrases like an African or Latin American. So which is it?

 

[Virgorising]

OP, your syntax is baffling. Are you by any chance of East-Asian origins?

I'm only curious, because every time you post, your thought processes seem to be very convoluted. You seem to be well-educated, but needlessly complicate things, and your text constructions don't always follow proper English-language rules. I've only seen this in Korean and Indian graduate students... I don't get the vibe that you're Russian or East-European, and you don't build your phrases like an African or Latin American. So which is it?

Anita! A FEMALE!

I am tempted to offer a sardonic response, i.e., let me text my agent and my editors to confirm my answer......but, being an inveterate optimist despite everything, I will assume your query was not disingenuous.

So, the answer is, no, Anita, I am not any of what you surmise above. Tho I am....a Southpaw.()

Addendum: what you experience as convoluted, my editors experience as richly, not arbitrarily free associative.

 

[Joepublic2]

Disassembling the PSU and desoldering the wires from the PCB would actually be much better in terms of look and safety.

This. If you're going to do this do it proper (safe) and desolder the conductors from the PCB, and remove excess solder with a pump/wick.

But difficult without a high-quality soldering iron with a large heat output (not just a high max temperature...)

If you don't have the equipment required to do this you shouldn't go hacking on your PSU in the first place; just tie up the extra wires with something nonconductive like a nylon zip tie. I really doubt this "mod" made any meaningful difference in the temps vs. just tying up the cables.

 

[Virgorising]

This. If you're going to do this do it proper (safe) and desolder the conductors from the PCB, and remove excess solder with a pump/wick.



If you don't have the equipment required to do this you shouldn't go hacking on your PSU in the first place; just tie up the extra wires with something nonconductive like a nylon zip tie. I really doubt this "mod" made any meaningful difference in the temps vs. just tying up the cables.

I appreciate your time, but I reject the despotic shoulds and oughts.

I did this 4 years ago.....never regretted it.

 

[CM Phaedrus]

Honestly, it's not a big deal as long as the wires are insulated after being cut. Not what I would recommend, of course, but not terrible. And there's a large gap between "wants to cut off cables" and "need a Weller or Hakko soldering iron"

 

[Virgorising]

Honestly, it's not a big deal as long as the wires are insulated after being cut. Not what I would recommend, of course, but not terrible. And there's a large gap between "wants to cut off cables" and "need a Weller or Hakko soldering iron"

I am sending you my imaginary big block, numbers-matched, mint, 67 Vette.:thumbsup:

 

[Nec_V20]

Virgorising, my one holdout with regard to what you have done is in the event that your PSU were ever to catch fire and you have to claim on your insurance the assessor will take one look at that PSU and they will refuse to pay out.

 

[crashtech]

The burden of proof would be on the insurer to prove the fire was the result of negligent action by the insured. In the absence of a confession, that would be fairly difficult to substantiate.

 

[Virgorising]

Virgorising, my one holdout with regard to what you have done is in the event that your PSU were ever to catch fire and you have to claim on your insurance the assessor will take one look at that PSU and they will refuse to pay out.

Sigh. First, as I shared herein many times, the system in question is about to be retired (when I get every single minute things in it, into this new/used, warpseed system....the one I am on right now. I am almost finished doing that, but not quite.

As I also shared, I did this FOUR YEARS AGO. Perhaps more, not sure.

NOTHING WOULD EVER HAD CAUGHT FIRE. NOTHING. Objectively, there was never any danger of that! AND, for very specific reasons I got right off, and have shared in this thread re the precise ways I did this.

Next, there is a fine line between ASSESSING/ANTICIPATING every possible eventuality down the road in ANY ENDEAVOR, and being held hostage by irrational postulations and terror.

As usual, it all works back to making keen differential judgements. And those chops are earned over time in all of life.
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Edit: Please know, re what you posted, it's no small irony, one of the main reasons I was moved to post the account and the pics, was, I was attacked viciously, and by many malcontents who seem to make everything a contest. in my thread asking for feedback re moving to SSDs, I was attacked... for not being BOLD...IMPUGED, via the (wrongheaded, cavalier) premise, I am some kinda WUS.

Ponder.

 

[Nec_V20]

You misread my comment. I wrote, "my one holdout with regard to what you have done". I made no mention or criticism above and beyond that.

Unfortunately PSUs catching fire is a thing which happens and you only have to take a look at Health Insurance companies who, before the ACA (Obamacare) was passed, would cancel someone's coverage who got ill because they considered pregnancy to be a "pre-existing condition".

I have absolutely no trust in insurance companies whatsoever, and if they can weasel out of paying upon any pretext then they will.

I was saying this as something to bear in mind if someone would be tempted to emulate what you did with your own PSU.

It was not a personal dig at you nor was it written to insult you.

 

[Virgorising]

You misread my comment. I wrote, "my one holdout with regard to what you have done". I made no mention or criticism above and beyond that.

Unfortunately PSUs catching fire is a thing which happens and you only have to take a look at Health Insurance companies who, before the ACA (Obamacare) was passed, would cancel someone's coverage who got ill because they considered pregnancy to be a "pre-existing condition".

I have absolutely no trust in insurance companies whatsoever, and if they can weasel out of paying upon any pretext then they will.

I was saying this as something to bear in mind if someone would be tempted to emulate what you did with your own PSU.

It was not a personal dig at you nor was it written to insult you.

Wow. Could I be anymore grateful for this clarification than I am? NO!!!!!

Indeed, the ignoble, the end justifies the means/greed paradigm for big business here has been eroding quality of life LONG ENOUGH.

And those hell bent on gestating impediments to the miniscule advances our President has managed to lead the fight to get in place....make me SICK.... on behalf of the collective.

Many of my clients are in the UK, and I keep reminding them never to be sanguine about their ENLIGHTENED health care. Is it perfect?? WHAT IS? BUT, DOES IT AFFORD A FUTURE for their civilizations? YES. It is....NUCLEAR.

But face it, the electorate let the rabid foxes steal the coop, and that appears far more daunting to mitigate than , or anyone I know realized. Sickening and scary.D::thumbsdown:

THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN....the clarification meant the world.:thumbsup:

Forgive me, I must now watch Project Runway. I would die if I missed any episode, missed last week's did not catch up online.()

Edit: Again, what I was suddenly moved to do, I got going in, would have NO DOWNSIDE. But, I now understand from this thread, that owed to that I knew right off how to do it and how not to do it. No small thing to get.....so, point taken.

Here in my building, we have pretty amazing staff, but we hire outsid,e fully licensed contractors do to everything which requires up to code and inspection. We are wondrously strict here in NYC re inspecting everything and codes of all kind. The inspectors who visit this building regularly adore us, because everything is always beyond perfect. We would never abide violations of any kind. We....have INTEGRITY.

 

[Nec_V20]

Many of my clients are in the UK

As I said to you before, I am German and am living in the UK presently.

 

[Virgorising]

As I said to you before, I am German and am living in the UK presently.

I had forgotten, thanks for reiterating. I hope you are moved to follow political/socio cultural doings on my side of The Pond. Some of use here are doing battle to slow the purposeful, pernicious reversal of the hard earned reforms won by authentic heros with great effort, at great cost, over the last 100 years. We are doing battle with FAUSTS.

Beyond any viable future, it's only our actual souls which are at stake.

 

[dawp]

But difficult without a high-quality soldering iron with a large heat output (not just a high max temperature...)

and without the skills it's very easy to damage anything you touch a soldering iron to.

I've done thir to a enermax psu I had years ago but instead of sealing the end of the wires I put some molex plug and made my own modular psu.

 

[Virgorising]

and without the skills it's very easy to damage anything you touch a soldering iron to.

I've done thir to a enermax psu I had years ago but instead of sealing the end of the wires I put some molex plug and made my own modular psu.

For anyone dexterous and focused, soldering skills are not that hard to earn......not, say, like micro surgery on living beings; you get a feel for such by doing, the usual learning curve......but I think what you did rocks. You should be proud!!!:thumbsup:

Again, for what I paid for my anything but modular Antec......remember, time is money, I have not one regret.

I said in the thread in which I was suddenly inspired to post re this event, esp given I had the pics in this new system.....I already thought any responses offered would be litmus tests.

Yes, indeed.:sneaky:

 

[amitkher]

I don't understand the warnings of dire consequences should the OP ever need to attach more components off the amputated PSU. The surgery seems completely reversible to me.

With somewhat more skill than required for the original amputation, some insulating tape, (solder for the purists), one can re-attach one or more the organs of the PSU. Not a big deal at all.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

I don't understand the warnings of dire consequences should the OP ever need to attach more components off the amputated PSU. The surgery seems completely reversible to me.

With somewhat more skill than required for the original amputation, some insulating tape, (solder for the purists), one can re-attach one or more the organs of the PSU. Not a big deal at all.

No big deal at all.

What could possibly go wrong ...

There are lots of ways of doing things in life.
You could cut the wires and reconnect them later.
But I think it is creating a lot of possibly (unnecessary) work for the future, and may be a safety risk.

 

[amitkher]

No big deal at all.

What could possibly go wrong ...

There are lots of ways of doing things in life.:\
You could cut the wires and reconnect them later.
But I think it is creating a lot of possibly (unnecessary) work for the future, and may be a safety risk.

How come you didn't post such warnings in haswelll / ivy bridge processor delidding threads ? Come to think of it, might give you a heart attack.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

How come you didn't post such warnings in haswelll / ivy bridge processor delidding threads ? Come to think of it, might give you a heart attack.

Some of the wires coming out of modern computer power supplies have to take VERY large currents. It is a VERY good idea to never mess with high current wires, unless one is VERY competent with electronics.
Otherwise the resultant (mess) can actually be a fire risk, and/or damage the rest of the computer.

If you disagree with this, please refer to another (current) thread, where another member has fried his motherboard, by being silly with the high current plugs.

Other thread (Example)

How come you didn't post such warnings in haswelll / ivy bridge processor delidding threads ?

If you absolutely HAVE TO, i.e. there is no other way, then there may be justification for such modifications.

With de-lidding it is probably the only way of (outside of using liquid Nitrogen, etc) getting extreme overclocks, from non-soldered T.I.M. Intel cpus.

But there are much better ways of dealing with extra power supply leads, such as getting a modular power supply in the first place.

 

[amitkher]

Some of the wires coming out of modern computer power supplies have to take VERY large currents. It is a VERY good idea to never mess with high current wires, unless one is VERY competent with electronics.
Otherwise the resultant (mess) can actually be a fire risk, and/or damage the rest of the computer.

If you disagree with this, please refer to another (current) thread, where another member has fried his motherboard, by being silly with the high current plugs.

Other thread (Example)

People have choked badly on food. You must be fun at parties around people having food.

If you absolutely HAVE TO, i.e. there is no other way, then there may be justification for such modifications.

With de-lidding it is probably the only way of (outside of using liquid Nitrogen, etc) getting extreme overclocks, from non-soldered T.I.M. Intel cpus.

Overclocking has not been helped greatly in most delidding scenarios. Especially on haswell.

And, (gasp), people do risky things , like eating food and delidding processors even when nobody else has done it. Not a big deal.

But there are much better ways of dealing with extra power supply leads, such as getting a modular power supply in the first place.

There are better ways of dealing with "low performance" processors like 3770k such as getting a Xeon (in dual socket motherboard , maybe like EVGA SR-X 270-SE-W888-KR) in the first place. No "risky" things like overclocking allowed there.

 

[Sheep221]

I don't understand OP and her praising of any kind of mod to a computer in this way, do you OP think that anyone should be awarded for differentiating triangle from square or what?

In your case, more smarter would definitely be to just bundle the wires together to create bonds and put them somewhere around the PSU, or case or somewhere else, as I suggested before, cutting off PSU wires just because you don't need them right now is too harsh solution imo. If you are too much around arrangement inside the case than either get the modular PSU or live with it.

People have choked badly on food. You must be fun at parties around people having food.




Overclocking has not been helped greatly in most delidding scenarios. Especially on haswell.

And, (gasp), people do risky things , like eating food and delidding processors even when nobody else has done it. Not a big deal.


There are better ways of dealing with "low performance" processors like 3770k such as getting a Xeon (in dual socket motherboard , maybe like EVGA SR-X 270-SE-W888-KR) in the first place. No "risky" things like overclocking allowed there.

Server CPUs are intended for professional use, overclocked CPUs are much more error prone than stock ones, so it's obvious you don't want to OC a server CPU which also has to comply with additional standards and certifications for reliability and performance, compared to regular computer CPUs

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

I don't understand OP and her praising of any kind of mod to a computer in this way, do you OP think that anyone should be awarded for differentiating triangle from square or what?

In your case, more smater would definitely be to just bundle the wires together to create bonds and put them somewhere around the PSU, or case or somewhere else, as I suggested before, cutting off PSU wires just because you don't need them right now is too harsh solution imo. If you are too much around arrangement inside the case than either get the modular PSU or live with it.

I agree.

It's like someone who wants to be different, NOT using their front door key.

Instead they smash their way through the front door with a sledgehammer, and congratulate themselves for being REALLY creative.

Then tape the smashed up door later, when they want to leave.

My suggestions that a burglar/intruder may find it easier to break into their home, by praising the tape away, seems to be falling on deaf ears.

If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT (or in this case, cut the power supply wires).

 

[Sheep221]

I agree.

It's like someone who wants to be different, NOT using their front door key.

Instead they smash their way through the front door with a sledgehammer, and congratulate themselves for being REALLY creative.

Then tape the smashed up door later, when they want to leave.

My suggestions that a burglar/intruder may find it easier to break into their home, by praising the tape away, seems to be falling on deaf ears.

If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT (or in this case, cut the power supply wires).

I just checked the first post and photo of her computer, there is PLENTY of room for PSU cables on top of PSU and top CD Rom drive(they are shown on the bottom in the picture because it is captured upside down). OP you really had to try hard to miss that out.

 

[amitkher]

Server CPUs are intended for professional use, overclocked CPUs are much more error prone than stock ones, so it's obvious you don't want to OC a server CPU which also has to comply with additional standards and certifications for reliability and performance, compared to regular computer CPUs

I know, that is what I am saying. This EVGA motherboard doesn't even allow "risky" things like overclocking. Obviously better than a "low performance" 3770k, right? It costs a zillion times, but at least it is not "risky".

BTW eating food is risky, better stay hungry. Oops, that is risky too, never mind.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

I know, that is what I am saying. This EVGA motherboard doesn't even allow "risky" things like overclocking. Obviously better than a "low performance" 3770k, right? It costs a zillion times, but at least it is not "risky".

BTW eating food is risky, better stay hungry. Oops, that is risky too, never mind.

For any serious computer usage, where the computer misbehaving in anyway can cause expensive/embarrassing/dangerous issues, overclocking is a VERY bad idea.

E.g. If you were to get seriously ill from eating food, even if it smells off, and looks like it will give you food poisoning.
Would you mind if the machine/pumps/computer, keeping you alive (in hospital), crashed due to it being overclocked ?