Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yep, I think popular black culture has done more to harm blacks than any racist group there is. The violence and negativity in Rap music, the sense of entitlement, and the "black leadership's" never ending blame games have led to a culture of irresponsibility and moral poverty. It's also led whites to an even more negative image of blacks.
So let me guess . . . the first black physician and dentist graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill in the 70s but disco and blaxpoitation is the primary reason blacks lack the upward mobility of essentially every other ethnic group in America?!
Almost every state in the nation operated a two-tier system of higher education . . . assuming there were any options available to minorities. The majority even took Dartmouth (or was it Princeton?) back . . . talk about Indian givers.
The foundation of my state's prosperity was agriculture in particular tobacco. The good ol' boy network systematically denied opportunities to minorities . . . grievances which have been acknowledged but still not properly compensated by the federal and state government. Successful farmers could allow their children to complete K-12 and go on to college . . . assuming the college would allow you to matriculate.
Anybody that believes the images of "black culture" and stereotypes as protrayed in the media clearly lacks the intelligence to see beyond such drivel or the moral/cultural fortitude and curiosity to expand their personal knowledge of people from different backgrounds. From my experience, it is typically both. Particularly in the South where ignorance is a way of life for ALL ethnicities raised within the broader cultural context.
Chris Rock's comedy is not the best but he has at least one truism in his typically infantile rants . . ."everything white people don't like about black people . . . black people REALLY don't like about black people."
What racist group caused the historical racism you speak of? I thought that was caused by a society wide social form of racism. I stated that negative elements of popular black culture has done more harm than any racist group. You have said nothing that disputes that. I never said that they caused more harm than white racism.
Please, if you're going to try and prove me wrong, don't throw up straw men to do it
You know, it's amazing, but "white flight" is virtually non-existent in the South (GA, SC and NC). When I lived there, I noticed more intergreted neighborhoods than I ever saw up here in the Midwest.
Where exactly do you live? If you know anything about demographics in the South you would be aware the
majority of school districts had dramatic re-distributions of students by race AFTER busing. Essentially whites either moved away from integrated schools or removed their children in favor of private schools. Most of the integration is exactly the same as twenty years ago . . . black people on one side of the tracks and white people on the other.
Where DO I live, or where DID I live?
I now live in Chamapign, IL. I DID live in Augusta and Atlanta GA, Columbia and Hilton Head Island, SC, and Charlotte, NC. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley, CA. I never experienced "white flight" while living in the South. If a black family moved into an upper middle class neighborhood, the whites did not start selling their homes in droves like they do here in the Midwest. If hispanics moved into the neighborhood, whites did not start selling their homes as if they were cursed like they did when I was growing up in SoCal. Nearly every middle and upper middle class subdivision I lived in in the South was moderately, to heavily intergrated.
To be sure, blacks still lag behind whites in the income department, but even in this area, I noticed the lower income areas in these cities were more intergrated than those in CA and the Midwest.
In fact, you want to know the most segregated city I lived in in the South? Hilton Head Island. Yes, that bastion of transplanted white liberalism from the North East.
You can pull statistics out of your ass until it bleeds. It wont change what I experienced in my more than ten years of living in the South East, my more than 18 years of living in SoCal, and the five+ years I've lived in the Midwest. Granted, my experience in the South did not start until the late eighties. But by then I noticed that it was more intergrated than SoCal.