BELKIN Desktop 10/100 PCI Network Card -- 95 cents [DEAL NOW DEAD]

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RobsTV

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Begin Rant mode.

BNC or TP?
I've been taking a lot of flack over the past couple years because I've stuck with BNC.
Here is why I stuck with BNC.
To network, put a network card in each PC, connect a coax cable between them,
and you are done. Add on's to this network are as simple as running a piece of
coax from one of the end PC's to the new PC, and it then becomes an end PC.
Want to add a PC 4 rooms away? Simple run a cable to it.
No hubs, switches, routers, or nothing. Just connect the cards.
4 PC's networked together, cost under $30, (combo cards were $5 each after rebate).
Add another for the cost of card plus some simple cable.

To connect this lan to the Internet was as simple as installing another card in
main PC, and connecting it to the DSL modem. Done. No router or nothing!

So now I "thought" I would finally make the switch to TP.
Sure I will need to run lines and lines of useless wire.
Seems stupid that if you have a switch you must run a line to each PC.
So if you have a row of 10 PC's, and a switch a one end, one PC will
have 10 wires running by it, next will have 9, and so on. BNC required one wire.
After wire is run, I must invest in a switch or hub.
Now it seems that I will also need a router as the switch I just bought will not do for DSL.
Why bother going through all this trouble and cost, when BNC doesn't require it?

Linksys FAQ wiring TP or BNC

Rant over.
 

IshmaelLeaver

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Feb 19, 2001
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Anyone realized these are refurbs?

You sure that the "refurbished" in the URL signifies that? It could just be part of a query or something.
 

Zwingle

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<< You sure that the "refurbished" in the URL signifies that? It could just be part of a query or something. >>



These are new....whether they are OEM or retail is still to be determined....these NICS debuted in June.
 

badluck

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TBC:

Do you really think that eBay buyers know to go to Dell to buy these? Out of all the on-line stores in the world, I think them figuring out it is at Dell is slim.....
 

vortix

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Sweet, just picked up 10 of the network cards and a Belkin 802.11b wireless PC card for under $60 shipped The wireless card does 128-bit WEP also, which is kinda nice for quick and easy "security" (this 128-bit encryption can be cracked fairly easily, but should at least stop people from casualling using your net connection).
 

divide by zero

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Feb 18, 2000
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Thanks for pointing out the Belkin USB->Ethernet adapters.
I just picked up two for the two Burbie computers I purchased.
Came out to $8.07 each, shipped and taxed!
 

time4cash

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Got 5 also...
confirmation received!!!!!

order not showing up under my account..
any idea how long it takes to show up?
thanks
 

JesseKnows

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HKSturboKID and others: A Belkin crimping tool is $12.95 - 15% and free shipping. Search Dell for part #506132.
 

RobsTV

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Check order status.
Now showing as Not available.
Seems like maybe some ordered a couple dozen too many, so that the rest of us are sol.
 

rugby

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Oct 11, 2001
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Delayed Items
Currently one or more items are not available. Every effort is being made to complete your order.

This is what I have on my order.
 

TunaBoo

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Okay, so the cable gets cripmed ANYWHERE along the router, and your network goes down. Fun. Try connected 20 or more computers with BNC and keeping the network up. And this is not even mentioning how slow it is (100 mbit on a switch with a good gigabit backplate is a LOT of preformance).

Oh and you can use ICS with windows and ethernet, just like you do on BNC. But some people such as myself value our network security, and user an old computer for a dam good firewall/router.





<< Begin Rant mode.

BNC or TP?
I've been taking a lot of flack over the past couple years because I've stuck with BNC.
Here is why I stuck with BNC.
To network, put a network card in each PC, connect a coax cable between them,
and you are done. Add on's to this network are as simple as running a piece of
coax from one of the end PC's to the new PC, and it then becomes an end PC.
Want to add a PC 4 rooms away? Simple run a cable to it.
No hubs, switches, routers, or nothing. Just connect the cards.
4 PC's networked together, cost under $30, (combo cards were $5 each after rebate).
Add another for the cost of card plus some simple cable.

To connect this lan to the Internet was as simple as installing another card in
main PC, and connecting it to the DSL modem. Done. No router or nothing!

So now I "thought" I would finally make the switch to TP.
Sure I will need to run lines and lines of useless wire.
Seems stupid that if you have a switch you must run a line to each PC.
So if you have a row of 10 PC's, and a switch a one end, one PC will
have 10 wires running by it, next will have 9, and so on. BNC required one wire.
After wire is run, I must invest in a switch or hub.
Now it seems that I will also need a router as the switch I just bought will not do for DSL.
Why bother going through all this trouble and cost, when BNC doesn't require it?

Linksys FAQ wiring TP or BNC

Rant over.
>>

 

Richard98

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Jan 30, 2001
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<< Delayed Items
Currently one or more items are not available. Every effort is being made to complete your order.

This is what I have on my order.
>>



Same here. Wierd that they haven't fixed the price yet and that they are still showing it as available - you can still add it to your shopping cart for .95.
 

worms

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Feb 13, 2001
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I've got the "one or more unavailable" status also.

JesseKnows: Great find on the crimper. I'm sure it's not the greatest quality but for $13 who cares? You can buy ends and stranded CAT5 by the foot at any ma/pop computer store or even at Home Depot. You can also just buy a 50' pre-made cable and cut it up to the length you like. That said, last time I made cables I felt like a real fool for having wasted 10 min per sloppy home-made cable just to save a dollar or two. Even with a $13 crimper, you'd have to make a half-dozen or so cables before breaking even.

RobsTV: BNC can be handy for simple linear arrangements, but if your computers are in a T or other shape, it's really awful. And while adding a computer to the end of a BNC chain is a simple task of bringing down the entire network and laying a new cable segment, adding a computer to the middle of the chain (as is the case 99% of the time) is a horrific nightmare of crimpers and meters, and struggling to find T connectors that work and checking the terminators over and over, then swapping out terminators to try to find one that works, then bending the coax just right, then...
The major problem with BNC as I'm sure you know is that it pretty much never works.
Add that to the fact that any problem, no matter how small (like a cable not being bent just right) causes a total catastrophic failure of the entire network that often requires hundreds of man-hours to trace and correct.
- BNC is also 1/10 the speed of TP
- Neither hot-swappable nor fault tolerant
- Can't be integrated into the building with wall jacks (the most professional BNC installation I've ever seen was where the installer kicked a big hole in the wall with his boot and then dragged the cable through that hole up through the crawl-space and out another hole at the next computer. Unfortunately, all his hard work was in vain because the cable curved just slightly as it went through one of the holes and so of course the entire network was completely inoperative.
- BNC is Incompatible with all but the oldest laptops and print servers
- Uses a stiff, bulky, ugly, and difficult to hide cable that protrudes from both sides of the computer rather than straight out the back like the rest of the cables.
- And finally, BNC is incompatible with any post-war products which is why you need to put all those network cards in your "main" computer to connect to your router.

You can get a TP hub for the price of a length of coax these days so TP is actually cheaper - and you don't even need to get out your Ohm meter to set it up! You can use any switch, hub, or router with your DSL. There are even a multitude of products that are 4,5, or 8 port 10/100 switches with integrated WAN interfaces that will connect all your computers to one another and the internet while serving as a transparent and maintenance-free hardware firewall. For example, the $47 Belkin 4-port router that others have been buying.

Come on RobsTV, at least upgrade to Lantastic or something. Anything is better than BNC.
 

GetReal

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FYI - I was talking to our Dell rep about an unreleated order and had him pull up my order for 2 of the NIC that I placed on Monday night. He said there was some sort of vendor pricing upload probelm. Anyway check your order status on Dell.com. Here is what our order is now showing...

They may still ship, but who knows...

Order Status Order Number: xxxxxxx

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Shipped Items

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Shipped Date:
Sku: 97-11127 Quantity: 1
Description: Discount(s) and/or coupon(s) have been i

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Delayed Items

Currently one or more items are not available. Every effort is being made to complete your order.

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Estimated ship date: 12/14/2001
Sku: 281936 Quantity: 2
Description: Desktop 10/100 PCI Network Card
 

TBC

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<< Check order status. Now showing as Not available. Seems like maybe some ordered a couple dozen too many, so that the rest of us are sol. >>



All the people who didn't get on this deal can thank the ebayers here who bought most of them, yet flame anyone who complains about it. I ordered some, but only what I can use, not to resell.

Although I won't be surprised to see Dell cancel all these orders, as this obviously is a price error. And they will lose big money off this. The shipping itself will cause them to lose money.
 

worms

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This is not a price error. These cards are junk and only retail for $14 anyway. Dell apparently got stuck with a bazillion of them and needs to get them out of the way. They are likely unhappy about the price drop timing coinciding with the free shipping promo but I'm sure that they just really want to get these damn things out of their warehouse.
 

Zwingle

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I had 2 orders of 10 each.....the first order I did through Dell Home....the second about 2 hours later was through Dell Small Business......Well, the business order has shipped, the home order is delayed....which is fine, cause I paid shipping on that order....I am happy Price mistake or not....at least I got 10 for that great price.....
 

CarpeDeo

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Umm . . . so when's the last time YOU'VE found something that's sold @ 7% of its retail price?
 

Zwingle

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<< Umm . . . so when's the last time YOU'VE found something that's sold @ 7% of its retail price? >>


Office Depot used to closeout stuff at .01....so there!
 

GetReal

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<< I had 2 orders of 10 each.....the first order I did through Dell Home....the second about 2 hours later was through Dell Small Business......Well, the business order has shipped, the home order is delayed....which is fine, cause I paid shipping on that order....I am happy Price mistake or not....at least I got 10 for that great price..... >>



Ours show as shipped too! I even have a tracking number, but when we check the order status, the NICs are not on the order as shown above. We ordered on Monday night prior to the post here. The item that was shipped in our order is some sort of promo material. Maybe yours are shipping from a different regional wharehouse than ours ? Anyway, you might want to check your online order status via your online account management and click on your order to see the line item(s) that shipped with your order. Good Luck.
 
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