Ben Shapiro OWNING the libs again with FACTS and LOGIC or How a snowflake melts live on air.

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fskimospy

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Also who on earth could possibly say with a straight face that Ben Shapiro of all people avoids straw man arguments? That’s basically his entire shtick.

The fact that conservatives appear to believe this clown is some sort of intellectual heavyweight just shows how far the conservative movement has fallen.
 

UglyCasanova

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The straw man you presented is the idea that I don't like him because I've heard I'm not supposed to like him. If that were the case, that would be a stupid thing for me to do. That is a straw man, because it is easy to argue against someone who did that stupid thing, very easy for you to knock down that straw man.


That’s not a straw man baw, that’s my opinion on why you don’t like him.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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At least he owned his self ownage, by admitting that he came unprepared. Some of you guys might not agree with his views, but at least he has some integrity and is true to his beliefs.

I agree that he was true to his nature which isn't a positive BTW. His beliefs do not make room for anyone else and the assumption that his ignorance is compensated by them.
 

fskimospy

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Link an example of him using one. From the videos I’ve seen he hasnt.

We have already discussed this before, a great example is him pretending that transgender people are declaring they are a different biological sex when they are not doing this, they are saying they identify as a different gender.

This is a transparent and ridiculous straw man of their position, something Ben Shapiro does frequently because he isn’t smart enough to argue against their position on the merits.
 

feralkid

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I don't even understand UC's "gotcha questions" comment. I suppose that in UC's mind and the "minds" of many other "conservatives", asking follow up questions about comments/stances made by Shapiro (or anyone on the right for that matter) cannot be made...and if they are, they're gotcha questions.


That's pretty much it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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We have already discussed this before, a great example is him pretending that transgender people are declaring they are a different biological sex when they are not doing this, they are saying they identify as a different gender.

This is a transparent and ridiculous straw man of their position, something Ben Shapiro does frequently because he isn’t smart enough to argue against their position on the merits.

In some circles that's integrity.

I don't watch Shapiro and I didn't even know who he was until this thread although I'm sure I've heard the name, but people seem to think that like Trump, being loud and obnoxious to confuse people with bizarre displays equals intelligence.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Link an example of him using one. From the videos I’ve seen he hasnt.

Why do you bother to defend this guy? I watched a few minutes which is all I could stand of his nonsense and he's an example of the worst that can be offered, forget ideology. He's a better bedbug than anything else.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Those two things are not mutually exclusive, and in this case, your opinion is a straw man.

I'm thinking that I don't give a crap about straw men right now. Shapiro displays the worst qualities of an "interviewer" at all levels which matter.
 

Moonbeam

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I'm thinking that I don't give a crap about straw men right now. Shapiro displays the worst qualities of an "interviewer" at all levels which matter.
Out of curiosity, Hay, which one do you think was Shapiro? He was not the interviewer.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Out of curiosity, Hay, which one do you think was Shapiro? He was not the interviewer.
Good point that requires my clarification. Shapiro was the interviewee in this video but if this is the person I believe him to be he has interviewed others. He makes money by telling stories without insight.

The interviewer of Shapiro seems to found him amusing in a bizarre way and completely unable to make any sense of Shapiro, his arguing and everything else this fragile person did.
 
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Moonbeam

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Good point that requires my clarification. Shapiro was the interviewee in this video but if this is the person I believe him to be he has interviewed others. He makes money by telling stories without insight.

The interviewer of Shapiro seems to found him amusing in a bizarre way and completely unable to make any sense of Shapiro, his arguing and everything else this fragile person did.
Thanks. I began to wonder, as I often do, if I was from a different planet , one in this case that defines interviewer wrong.
 

UglyCasanova

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Why do you bother to defend this guy? I watched a few minutes which is all I could stand of his nonsense and he's an example of the worst that can be offered, forget ideology. He's a better bedbug than anything else.


What is something he said you disagree with
 

Hayabusa Rider

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What is something he said you disagree with

Virtually everything he said in that interview? I have listened to parts of his on the youtube and he has nothing of value, although if I had the stomach he might make some comments like "we need to protect rights". But even though he has a machine gun mouth he doesn't make sense of one takes reality into consideration, just as with the UK interview. He decided to attack the interviewer, a sign of a weak person.
 

fskimospy

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Virtually everything he said in that interview? I have listened to parts of his on the youtube and he has nothing of value, although if I had the stomach he might make some comments like "we need to protect rights". But even though he has a machine gun mouth he doesn't make sense of one takes reality into consideration, just as with the UK interview. He decided to attack the interviewer, a sign of a weak person.

One thing I disagree with him on is that renewable energy is not impossible due to the first law of thermodynamics. This is because I’m not a fucking moron like Ben Shapiro.

 

Hayabusa Rider

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One thing I disagree with him on is that renewable energy is not impossible due to the first law of thermodynamics. This is because I’m not a fucking moron like Ben Shapiro.


He's dumber than I first thought. I bet he has some real whoppers on climate change. Is he an antivaxxer too?

Edit- He passes the vaccine sniff test.
 

Majes

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Ben destroyed himself in that interaction.
Not sure why he got upset... I'm not sure if it was the abortion question that got him rattled or digging through his tweets. I've seen him respond to both topics in a measured way many times.
 

mikeymikec

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07:26 - Uh, he'd vote for a candidate that he admits has done irreversible damage to the country based on the notion that it can't get any worse?
 
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