Benazir Bhutto dead in suicide bombing

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alchemize

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Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: alchemize
That's sad. Pakistan is really messed up. I don't think an islamic country can sustain a true democracy, I really don't.

Why bring Islam in this? Marcos in Philippines also had Aquino killed in the 80's. This kind of stuff happens all the time in countries with dictatorship, many of which are not Islamic country.

You think a Bhuddist strapped on a suicide bomb and killed her?

Why *not* bring Islam into this?
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: alchemize
That's sad. Pakistan is really messed up. I don't think an islamic country can sustain a true democracy, I really don't.

Why bring Islam in this? Marcos in Philippines also had Aquino killed in the 80's. This kind of stuff happens all the time in countries with dictatorship, many of which are not Islamic country.

You think a Bhuddist strapped on a suicide bomb and killed her?

Why *not* bring Islam into this?

Because Islam is our friend......:roll:
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: alchemize
That's sad. Pakistan is really messed up. I don't think an islamic country can sustain a true democracy, I really don't.

Why bring Islam in this? Marcos in Philippines also had Aquino killed in the 80's. This kind of stuff happens all the time in countries with dictatorship, many of which are not Islamic country.

You think a Bhuddist strapped on a suicide bomb and killed her?

Why *not* bring Islam into this?

Because Islam is our friend......:roll:

:laugh:


No one blamed Bush yet.....
 

Braznor

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What did you expect? The Islamists are a tenacious breed of fighters : having no fear of death. We may have greater technology, but all of that will ultimately crumble when confronted with their resolve. That resolve bought them victory ultimately everytime they fought, as it did today and as it will tomorrow.

 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Sinsear


No one blamed Bush yet.....

I personally can't help but wonder if Bush hasn't traded a dictator who wanted WMD's and nukes for one who has WMD's and nukes?? If OBL can be safe in Pakistan but not Bhutto, then.....??
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Braznor
What did you expect? The Islamists are a tenacious breed of fighters : having no fear of death. We may have greater technology, but all of that will ultimately crumble when confronted with their resolve. That resolve bought them victory ultimately everytime they fought, as it did today and as it will tomorrow.

Eh, the same was said about the Japanese.
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: teclis1023
She has been in charge twice already.

She was Prime Minister. And "in charge" is a highly subjective term in this case.

You and your NeoContard buddy Perfesser Johnnie without delay engage your mouth without any understanding of history, reality or truth.

The PPP was well on its way to winning elections next month because the Pakistan Muslim League is effectively split between Musharraf and Nawaz Sharif.

Musharraf is another in a long line of US puppets doomed for failure. He has purged the judiciary in his favor. The election commission, which was appointed by Musharraf, declared last week that Nawaz Sharif cannot run in elections next month.

You guys need to stfu and let the adults speak.

Watch it with the arbitrary attacks. -ShotgunSteven
 

Braznor

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Nawaz Sharief must be dancing with joy in private. He is now the sole claimant as the democratic candidate to the prime minister's chair, unless Musharaff's favorite judge (Choudhary) steps in as a rival, of course.

Anyway, the same fate probably awaits all of them.


 

MegaWorks

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"Blame it on Islam......everything is Islam fault blah blah blah!!!!

You guys really look like 12 years old kids when you say that, give it a rest. Sometimes I wonder if I control this country I can easily manipulate you guys. :laugh:
"Blame it on Islam", she was prime minister before meaning she was elected by the Pakistani people I'm I wrong? hmm

You want to know who's happy after hearing this news Uncle Sam dictator Pervez Musharraf, the Saudis and of course the US administration by just making sure to have a puppet in that country and not a real elected party!

Life is not fair for those who seek freedom.

 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Braznor
What did you expect? The Islamists are a tenacious breed of fighters : having no fear of death. We may have greater technology, but all of that will ultimately crumble when confronted with their resolve. That resolve bought them victory ultimately everytime they fought, as it did today and as it will tomorrow.

Eh, the same was said about the Japanese.

No, The Japanese essentially loved living as much as the average American. No matter, the bravado of the Banzai pilots, they still wanted to build cities, have sex here (not after death) and live life kingsize. So did the commies who sacrificed themselves in droves during WW2.


But Islamism as an ideology preaches dying for jihad as a virtue, one of the pillars of Islam.
 

Braznor

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Braznor
Nawaz Sharief must be dancing with joy in private. He is now the sole claimant as the democratic candidate to the prime minister's chair, unless Musharaff's favorite judge (Choudhary) steps in as a rival, of course.

Anyway, the same fate probably awaits all of them.

Try again, Braznor

Sharif barred from running in Pakistan election
Dec. 18, 2007

The assassination changed everything. Your article is outdated. The commission which disqualified him was appointed by Musharaff himself according to your article.

The assassination has eliminated the most credible candidate, Bhutto. I don't think it would be possible for Musharaff to enforce the commission's judgment in sidelining Sharief anymore. He should be as happy as I predicted. Why wouldn't he be? His best longterm rival (as contrast to short term ally against Mush) to the throne just dropped dead!



Mark my words, Musharaff will be forced to allow Nawaz back in running.

P.S : I gotta rush for a few hours, so I will be back to answer your questions later. PM them to me if you like.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Sinsear


No one blamed Bush yet.....

I personally can't help but wonder if Bush hasn't traded a dictator who wanted WMD's and nukes for one who has WMD's and nukes?? If OBL can be safe in Pakistan but not Bhutto, then.....??

Most of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have been brainwashed into hating democracy and everything that is not Islam. OBL is their avatar and Bhutto was their demon.

Most of that area is just fucked up and if they didn't have oil no one would care about them at all.

What I'd like to see is a revolution in Iran. Most of the younger people there are pro-democracy and it could be the catalyst and start for a modern Muslim nation.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: MegaWorks
"Blame it on Islam......everything is Islam fault blah blah blah!!!!

You guys really look like 12 years old kids when you say that, give it a rest. Sometimes I wonder if I control this country I can easily manipulate you guys. :laugh:
"Blame it on Islam", she was prime minister before meaning she was elected by the Pakistani people I'm I wrong? hmm

You want to know who's happy after hearing this news Uncle Sam dictator Pervez Musharraf, the Saudis and of course the US administration by just making sure to have a puppet in that country and not a real elected party!

Life is not fair for those who seek freedom.

If it wasn't a Buddhist that strapped on the suicide vest, then perhaps it was a Mennonite?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Sinsear

:laugh:


No one blamed Bush yet.....

Here you go, one of our local jihadists blames Bush/USA and deflects blame for islam all in one post!

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
"Blame it on Islam......everything is Islam fault blah blah blah!!!!

You guys really look like 12 years old kids when you say that, give it a rest. Sometimes I wonder if I control this country I can easily manipulate you guys. :laugh:
"Blame it on Islam", she was prime minister before meaning she was elected by the Pakistani people I'm I wrong? hmm

You want to know who's happy after hearing this news Uncle Sam dictator Pervez Musharraf, the Saudis and of course the US administration by just making sure to have a puppet in that country and not a real elected party!

Life is not fair for those who seek freedom.

 

heyheybooboo

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Clearly our puppet-general Musharraf has 'eliminated' his competition, whether it is within his own party (Nawaz Sharif ) or the leading populist party - the PPP.

This, too, is another in a long line of foreign policy disasters for The Cheney White House you love so dearly. The hypocrisy and bigotry in this thread is over the top.

Our puppet-general Musharraf is the extremtist - and he effectively eliminated the driving force in Pakistan striving for human rights.

Just more of that hypocritical 'Bush Democracy'.
 

effee

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A woman in charge of an Islamic nation? Never going to happen, it was just a matter of time
 

monk3y

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Originally posted by: effee
A woman in charge of an Islamic nation? Never going to happen, it was just a matter of time

She has lead the nation in the past.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
You guys need to stfu and let the adults speak.

I agree. So get the fuck out of here, kid.

You add nothing but obfuscation, misinformation and half-witted juvenile hackery, Pabs. You are not clever but you are clearly a legend in your own mind.

Clearly our puppet-general Musharraf has 'eliminated' his competition, whether it is within his own party (Nawaz Sharif ) or the leading populist party - the PPP.

This, too, is another in a long line of foreign policy disasters for The Cheney White House you love so dearly. The hypocrisy and bigotry in this thread is over the top.

Our puppet-general Musharraf is the extremtist - and he effectively eliminated the driving force in Pakistan striving for human rights.

Just more of that hypocritical 'Bush Democracy'.

He had nothing to gain from this. Neither does the US have anything to gain from this. Sure she was trying to do good ect ect but was not making huge inroads and there was no real threat of it anytime soon. Your weaving this huge web of conspircay that is too complicated to bother with.

If it was your version, blood will run in the streets, if it was just a extremist jihadist party, blood will run in the streets. If the civil war branches out to India, even more blood will run. The only people who had anything to gain from this are the anarchists, of which Misharraf and Uncle Sam are not.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
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You add nothing but obfuscation, misinformation and half-witted juvenile hackery, Pabs. You are not clever but you are clearly a legend in your own mind.

Clearly our puppet-general Musharraf has 'eliminated' his competition, whether it is within his own party (Nawaz Sharif ) or the leading populist party - the PPP.

This, too, is another in a long line of foreign policy disasters for The Cheney White House you love so dearly. The hypocrisy and bigotry in this thread is over the top.

Our puppet-general Musharraf is the extremtist - and he effectively eliminated the driving force in Pakistan striving for human rights.

Just more of that hypocritical 'Bush Democracy'.
So "clearly," you must have an inside source who provided you with proof that Mush was behind the attack.... right?

No?

OK, I'm confused... I mean, you wrote that so matter-of-factly!

Ohhhh, I get it! You're keeping that information and your sources locked away in a Top Secret Leftist vault somewhere -- just as you do with every bit of "evidence" against Bush for all of his "crimes"...
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: teclis1023
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A woman in charge of a government in the Islamic world? No way they would stand for something like that.

She has been in charge twice already.

From CNN
Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated Thursday in Rawalpindi, was the first female prime minister of Pakistan and of any Islamic nation. She led Pakistan from 1988 to 1990 and again from 1993 to 1996.

It's called regression. Ever since the 1970s a certain violent sect has successfully spread its power across the Islamic world. What was permitted yesterday will get you killed today. This regression into more radial elements is getting worse around the globe.

Of course - they call it progress, really depends on whose side you view it from. Their idea of progress does not stop until the world shares her fate. Yet we don't even want to admit that they want that, even as they purge their land of "moderates" and bleed ours.
 

alchemize

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Mar 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: her209
When Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated, was Judaism the reason for his assassination?

While he was an orthodox Jew, he acted independently. There weren't ortho jew groups calling for the assassination of Rabin like there were islamic groups calling for the assassination of Bhutto.

100 to 1 you'll find the actor in this case didn't do it on his own.
 
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