Benchmarks? AMD x2 3800+ vs P4 3.2Ghz 640

[Zebo]

Why are you feeding this troll? Too stupid to click CPU tab and read a couple reviews and too stubborn to listen to poeople who have.

 

[Mr Bob]

The people here who were actually helpful didn't need a reason. And the responses I got that were on topic were great. The only people who wasted their time was you and that dumbass Zebo who thinks I am a "troll" lol

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

I did "help", but I would also like to point out that you're a lazy idiot that obviously can't do his own research.

Opteron 165 > Any Intel dual core
Opteron 144/146 > Any Intel single core

/thread.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I did "help", but I would also like to point out that you're a lazy idiot that obviously can't do his own research.

Opteron 165 > Any Intel dual core
Opteron 144/146 > Any Intel single core

/thread.

I'm pretty sure that the 3.8GHZ Intel would beat the Opteron 144 in many benchies.

 

[Mr Bob]

lol, I am an idiot? And you reply to a thread regarding x2 3800+ vs the 640, with information on Opterons lmao

It's people like you who make this board so funny to visit.

I'm pretty sure that the 3.8GHZ Intel would beat the Opteron 144 in many benchies.

- Just ignore him. His posts have nothing to do with this topic, just sit back and laugh.

 

[Brunnis]

Originally posted by: Mr Bob
"And if "doing quite well" is losing by alomst half in any multitask or multi threaded scenario"
- Losing by half? What benchmark are you looking at?!?

The X2 3800+ may not be 100% faster than the P4 640, but I'm still wondering if you even read the review. I've made it simple for you and calculated the differences in some of the tests.

WinRAR: 22% faster
Web Publication SYSMark 2004: 41% faster
Multitasking: Mozilla and WME: 43% faster
DivX 6.0 w/ AutoGK 1.60: 37% faster
Microsoft WME 9.0: 23% faster
Microsoft WME 9.0 HD: 65% faster
Discreet 3dsmax 6: 61%
Multitasking Performance - Business Winstone 2004: 37% faster

I think those differences are pretty significant.

You also seem to think that heat output doesn't matter as long as the CPU works. Have you thought about the fact that the higher electricity bill will make up for some of the price difference over the systems life time? Have you thought about the fact that the X2 will be easier to cool quietly?

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Originally posted by: Mr Bob
lol, I am an idiot? And you reply to a thread regarding x2 3800+ vs the 640, with information on Opterons lmao

It's people like you who make this board so funny to visit.

I'm pretty sure that the 3.8GHZ Intel would beat the Opteron 144 in many benchies.

- Just ignore him. His posts have nothing to do with this topic, just sit back and laugh.

I never said the 144 could beat any Intel single core in STOCK PERFORMANCE, but in overall "betterness". More performance for your money, less heat, and more overclockability. When the 144 is overclocked to ~2.7ghz+, it'll most likely beat the 670. Also, my posts have EVERYTHING to do with the topic. You're just an idiot who obviously is too stuborn to listen to other people. The Opteron is exactly the same thing as the Athlon 64 line, but with higher grade silicon made to last longer, and generally, double the cache. A Socket 939 Opteron 144 costs about the same as the equally clocked 3000+ Venice, but with the aforementioned benefits. And I already gave you benchmarks about the 3800+ vs Intel single core, which you just blatently ignored.

 

[Mr Bob]

"The X2 3800+ may not be 100% faster than the P4 640, but I'm still wondering if you even read the review."
- I just get tired of these people who post wrong information, just to clutter up the entire intel vs amd fiasco.

"Have you thought about the fact that the higher electricity bill will make up for some of the price difference over the systems life time?"
- Nope.

Btw, your numbers are off, way off....Are you using this benchmark for your numbers? http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2484
- "Microsoft WME 9.0 HD: 65% faster " equals to 39.5% faster. Its really early here, and I am working off of 4 hours of sleep, so I might be missing something VERY simple.

I never said the 144 could beat any Intel single core in STOCK PERFORMANCE, but in overall "betterness". More performance for your money, less heat, and more overclockability. When the 144 is overclocked to ~2.7ghz+, it'll most likely beat the 670. Also, my posts have EVERYTHING to do with the topic. You're just an idiot who obviously is too stuborn to listen to other people. The Opteron is exactly the same thing as the Athlon 64 line, but with higher grade silicon made to last longer, and generally, double the cache. A Socket 939 Opteron 144 costs about the same as the equally clocked 3000+ Venice, but with the aforementioned benefits. And I already gave you benchmarks about the 3800+ vs Intel single core, which you just blatently ignored.

- Hmm, all I read was "144" and decided to ignore your post.

 

[ArneBjarne]

Originally posted by: Mr Bob

Btw, your numbers are off, way off....Are you using this benchmark for your numbers? http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2484
- "Microsoft WME 9.0 HD: 65% faster " equals to 39.5% faster. Its really early here, and I am working off of 4 hours of sleep, so I might be missing something VERY simple.

Yes you are.

Faster indicates that the slower cpus performance is used as base:

(3.54-2.14)/2.14 = 65.4%

what you have calculated is how much slower the P4 is, which naturally uses the X2s performance as base:

(3.54-2.14)/3.54 = 39,5%

DOH contributed even more to the confusion by mistyping the P4 performance hehe (2.14 naturally not 1.14... 1.4 is the diff)

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: ArneBjarne

Originally posted by: Mr Bob

Btw, your numbers are off, way off....Are you using this benchmark for your numbers? http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2484
- "Microsoft WME 9.0 HD: 65% faster " equals to 39.5% faster. Its really early here, and I am working off of 4 hours of sleep, so I might be missing something VERY simple.

Yes you are.

Faster indicates that the slower cpus performance is used as base:

(3.54-1.14)/1.14 = 65.4%

what you have calculated is how much slower the P4 is, which naturally uses the X2s performance as base:

(3.54-1.14)/3.54 = 39,5%

Thats true

 

[Markfw]

He just ignores any post he doesn't like, as Zebo said, why are we feeding this troll. He even has to put the prices in his sig "so he can remember what he paid". right.....

 

[Mr Bob]

Originally posted by: ArneBjarne

Yes you are.

Faster indicates that the slower cpus performance is used as base:

(3.54-1.14)/1.14 = 65.4%

what you have calculated is how much slower the P4 is, which naturally uses the X2s performance as base:

(3.54-1.14)/3.54 = 39,5%

- I see the error now, much more easier to see after a shower and some breakfast

" He just ignores any post he doesn't like"
- I just ignore every dumbass that comes into my threads with stupid comments that have nothing to do with the subject. Take you for example.

"why are we feeding this troll"
- Troll? lmao. Who here went into a thread and gave information that doesn't relate to the thread? I think it was the dumbass with 6000 posts!

"He even has to put the prices in his sig "so he can remember what he paid". right..... "
- Yes, I don't remember what I paid for each piece of hardware, having that in my sig helps.

People like you mark make this forum such a fun place to read. I come here for laughs all the time.

For the people who helped out in this thread, thanks, the information was very useful.

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Idiot, if you continued reading my post, you would find out why I even mentioned the Opterons...

 

[Mr Bob]

Well, it was ignored, and any future stupid posts from you will be ignored as well.

Continue to post and waste your time though. I do appreciate everyone else who was helpful. Sorry if you wasted your time reading newb's posts.

 

[Markfw]

You are a real ass. You have just not alienated almost everyone one this site Just keep it up, and you will figure out what it is like to be banned.

 

[Mr Bob]

" You are a real ass."
- To people like you, yes. Even if I am banned for being an ass to trolls who post useless information in threads to try and bring them OT, someone else will be back to do the same to you. It won't stop until people like you stop.

 

[mUcHiLuS]

amd 3800+ x2 is better option

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Mr Bob
" You are a real ass."
- To people like you, yes. Even if I am banned for being an ass to trolls who post useless information in threads to try and bring them OT, someone else will be back to do the same to you. It won't stop until people like you stop.

LOL. What ever man, Mark is a highly valued (IMO) and highly regarded member of this forum. We tried to help you out, but it seems that you constantly dis-regard our opinions. If you wanted some tripe that backs up your predujces then go to like Intellovers.com or something.

 

[Mr Bob]

"If you wanted some tripe that backs up your predujces then go to like Intellovers.com or something."
- Really... I am prejudice against AMD, but still run an x2 4400+ ?

"Mark is a highly valued (IMO) and highly regarded member of this forum."
- Someone should really teach him how to respond to posts better. He loooks stupid when he doesn't stay on topic and has over 6,000 posts.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: Mr Bob
" You are a real ass."
- To people like you, yes. Even if I am banned for being an ass to trolls who post useless information in threads to try and bring them OT, someone else will be back to do the same to you. It won't stop until people like you stop.

LOL. What ever man, Mark is a highly valued (IMO) and highly regarded member of this forum. We tried to help you out, but it seems that you constantly dis-regard our opinions. If you wanted some tripe that backs up your predujces then go to like Intellovers.com or something.

Thank you Leper... I really kept trying to help this guy, but he keeps ignoring me, dissing me, or badmouthing me.... Very wierd animal, and I can' even figure out what he is after ???

 

[Mr Bob]

That's what happens when you join a thread, and after you already replied with useless information, decide to follow it up with "pwned"

Its funny you still have "the 3800 should win" as your edited first post. Veeerrrrrryyyyyy helpful to someone looking for benchmarks. If you can't see how your reply was just a waste of space, then there is really something wrong with you. And then you even try to be rude by saying "And lastly, nobody wants to know what you paid for every piece of your system, unless it was a hot deal, and then post that item in the "hot deals" forum." only to find out you didn't have a clue what it was for.

 

[fatty4ksu]

:thumbsup:


Mr. Bob Wins!!