Benedict XVI - Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany becomes the 265th pope of the Roman Catholic Church

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Miramonti

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It appears the cardinals forgot that they were voting for a new pope to strengthen the future of the catholic church, not evangelicalism. While a strict orthodox cardinal may appease the long time steadfast catholics (aka geezers), they can pretty much kiss goodbye any new converts, particularly from the youth.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dornick
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm a Black Sheep.

Even though they attempt to drill the Republican and Religious Agenda at me from the Pulpit,
the brainwashing waves just have not been strong enough to get through the Tin Foil apparently lining the inside of my skull.
Do you agree with the dogmas of the Church?

A lot, except the Saints, unless of course they make me one

How bout these?

Do you believe in an all powerful, all knowing, and all good God?
Do you believe there was a historical Jesus who died so humanity could be redeemed?

If not, then I'm sorry, but you're not Catholic

Yep and Yep, now vote for my Sainthood. Thanks :thumbsup:

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: jjsole
It appears the cardinals forgot that they were voting for a new pope to strengthen the future of the catholic church, not evangelicalism. While a strict orthodox cardinal may appease the long time steadfast catholics (aka geezers), they can pretty much kiss goodbye any new converts, particularly from the youth.

Wow, you must be from the North.

You obviously haven't been to church down here in the South.

The Youth are well brainwashed down here.


 

surreal1221

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Benedict. . . damn, what a sh1tty name. And he is 78 years old. . . which means we will be going through this once again in about 20 years, if he makes it that far.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Nice to see the church move into the 21st century with an aging relic of the anti-Semitic past.


WTG, Vatican!!



:roll:
Didn't take long for your bigoted anti-christian self to come out..
Oh, look. Another bitter apologist.


All that's left is bozack and we've got the hat trick!


Don't catholics have a right to choose their leaders? Are you going to answer the question or just spew your bigotry? Why does it matter to you as a Non-Catholic? Or a NON PRACTICING Catholic?

Well, I've been baptized, communionzed and the whole bit. Although I don't go to church anymore, I'm more Catholic than probably you are. (Don't know if you're Catholic or not as of yet)

Yeah, lets argue who is more Catholic.. :roll: ok, I will ONE UP you then, I was also MARRIED in the Catholic church, which puts me +1 on the Sacraments list I guess.. since YOU seem to be keeping score..

If you don't believe in the teachings of the Catholic church you are NOT Catholic. If you believe in gay marriage, abortion, sex before marriage, etc.. WHY are you Catholic? Why would you join a church which you disagree with?
To change it for the better?

Then form your own church.. The Catholic Church has chosen its core beliefs, if you don't agree with them look elsewhere. Why must the church change its beliefs because Red Dawn doesn't agree with them?
Red Dawn doesn't care one way or the other about the Catholic Church or any Chgurch, religion or myth, I was just pondering an answer to your question directed at Darkhawk.

Well, your question was stupid.
According to you but you but your opinion doesn't hold much water with me or most others.

The opinions of of just about everyone on the internet doesn't hold much water for me.. or anyone else for that matter. Did you just start using the intarweb?
 

InfectedMushroom

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
The it should fvcking stop trying to impose it's outdated ideals on the rest of us.
How about that for a fvcking change?
Are you Catholic? If not, then they're not imposing any ideas on you, so piss off.

Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe
 

dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
The it should fvcking stop trying to impose it's outdated ideals on the rest of us.
How about that for a fvcking change?
Are you Catholic? If not, then they're not imposing any ideas on you, so piss off.

Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe

That's not imposing, that Dictating.

That's what Reverend Cyclo, Bush and the rest like to do.
 

Mathlete

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
The it should fvcking stop trying to impose it's outdated ideals on the rest of us.
How about that for a fvcking change?
Are you Catholic? If not, then they're not imposing any ideas on you, so piss off.

Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe

When has Catholicism tried to do any of these things to you. If you are talking about W then you need to educate yourself. He is not Catholic. The Pope has nothing to do with him.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
The it should fvcking stop trying to impose it's outdated ideals on the rest of us.
How about that for a fvcking change?
Are you Catholic? If not, then they're not imposing any ideas on you, so piss off.

Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe

Outlawing murder is imposing, outlawing people under 21 drinking is imposing, outlawing people under 16 driving is imposing, outlawing people under age 18 to consent to sex is imposing, requiring permits to expand your house is imposing, requiring a license to marry is imposing, requiring someone to pay income taxes is imposing, outlawing those under 18 from smoking is imposing... Not allowing religion to be taught in public schools is imposing...

Now what logic were YOU using exactly?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
The it should fvcking stop trying to impose it's outdated ideals on the rest of us.
How about that for a fvcking change?
Are you Catholic? If not, then they're not imposing any ideas on you, so piss off.

Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe

Outlawing murder is imposing, outlawing people under 21 is imposing, outlawing people under 16 driving is imposing, outlawing people under age 18 to consent to sex is imposing, requiring permits to expand your house is imposing, requiring a license to marry is imposing, requiring someone to pay income taxes is imposing, outlawing those under 18 from smoking is imposing... Not allowing religion to be taught in public schools is imposing...

Now what logic were YOU using exactly?

Difference between Civil and Dictating.

I wouldn't expect the Republicans in here to understand the difference.

Hannity and Co have brainwashed well.
 

Mathlete

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
The it should fvcking stop trying to impose it's outdated ideals on the rest of us.
How about that for a fvcking change?
Are you Catholic? If not, then they're not imposing any ideas on you, so piss off.

Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe

That's not imposing, that Dictating.

That's what Reverend Cyclo, Bush and the rest like to do.

So I guess any time that you have an argument, Hell, anytime you don't agree with a rule and try to change it you are dictating. Thus, by your logic, Dave, if the world ever changes then it is no longer a democracy but a dictatorship seeing as someone imposed some other view on someone. It is called discussion and change!!!

 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Really, you're not imposing? So trying to outlaw abortion is not imposing. Not allowing gays to marry is not impossing.
hahahahahaha. great logic. beehehehehehe
Well, you're just trolling, so here you go: . Kindly be on your way.
 

randym431

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"He's 78 years old!"

So they'll have to go thru all this again in a year or two?
This is so gay, they just love all the fanfare, costumes and ceremony. Can't wait for another, so they pick someone 78?
Well, I don't really care...I'm not Catholic.
 

Mathlete

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And if you think that Hannity and colmes have brainwashed me here is a list of my activities:

  • I voted for Kerry in 04
    I voted for Gore in 00
    I voted for Clinton in 96
    I helped my uncle stuff literature for Clinton in 90, 91, 92
    I actively campaign foer Herb Kohl(D)
    I was even in a couple commercials for him
    My Uncle used to be the head of the Dem's in my home county
    He even ran for state senator(D)
    Sh!t I even helped him campaign
    I am a registered Dem
    Faux news is a deleted chanel on my tv
    I have been to numerous anti-war rallies

You must be thinking this guy is an enigma wrapped in a conundrum. What could the explanation be????

Simple Dave and Mushroom, I have [wait for it] morals(OMG OH NOES!!!!!).
 

Miramonti

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jjsole
It appears the cardinals forgot that they were voting for a new pope to strengthen the future of the catholic church, not evangelicalism. While a strict orthodox cardinal may appease the long time steadfast catholics (aka geezers), they can pretty much kiss goodbye any new converts, particularly from the youth.

Wow, you must be from the North.

You obviously haven't been to church down here in the South.

The Youth are well brainwashed down here.

The catholics have been steadily losing youth and new converts to the evangelical movement everywhere because of their perceived strict religiousness and but lack of perceived spirituality. Youth want personal experience, and not church dogma.

Both essentially have the same strict rules that one is expected to conform to over the long haul, but evangelical churches make it much easier to get in to the door, experience and buy into first, before you're expected to get in line with your thoughts and behavior.

An orthodox pope with even more emphasis on the 'rules' is the last thing the church needs to become attractive to today's youth and to help build the church for future generations.


 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Nice to see the church move into the 21st century with an aging relic of the anti-Semitic past.


WTG, Vatican!!



:roll:
Didn't take long for your bigoted anti-christian self to come out..
Oh, look. Another bitter apologist.


All that's left is bozack and we've got the hat trick!


Don't catholics have a right to choose their leaders? Are you going to answer the question or just spew your bigotry? Why does it matter to you as a Non-Catholic? Or a NON PRACTICING Catholic?

Well, I've been baptized, communionzed and the whole bit. Although I don't go to church anymore, I'm more Catholic than probably you are. (Don't know if you're Catholic or not as of yet)

Yeah, lets argue who is more Catholic.. :roll: ok, I will ONE UP you then, I was also MARRIED in the Catholic church, which puts me +1 on the Sacraments list I guess.. since YOU seem to be keeping score..

If you don't believe in the teachings of the Catholic church you are NOT Catholic. If you believe in gay marriage, abortion, sex before marriage, etc.. WHY are you Catholic? Why would you join a church which you disagree with?
To change it for the better?

Then form your own church.. The Catholic Church has chosen its core beliefs, if you don't agree with them look elsewhere. Why must the church change its beliefs because Red Dawn doesn't agree with them?
Red Dawn doesn't care one way or the other about the Catholic Church or any Chgurch, religion or myth, I was just pondering an answer to your question directed at Darkhawk.

Well, your question was stupid.
According to you but you but your opinion doesn't hold much water with me or most others.

The opinions of of just about everyone on the internet doesn't hold much water for me.. or anyone else for that matter. Did you just start using the intarweb?
Typical, you take a discussion and lower it your level by starting with the insults.

Back to my original statement, you say it was stupid, care to explain how one goes about exacting change in an institution if one does not belong to it?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jjsole
It appears the cardinals forgot that they were voting for a new pope to strengthen the future of the catholic church, not evangelicalism. While a strict orthodox cardinal may appease the long time steadfast catholics (aka geezers), they can pretty much kiss goodbye any new converts, particularly from the youth.

Wow, you must be from the North.

You obviously haven't been to church down here in the South.

The Youth are well brainwashed down here.

The catholics have been steadily losing youth and new converts to the evangelical movement everywhere because of their perceived strict religiousness and but lack of perceived spirituality. Youth want personal experience, and not church dogma.

Both essentially have the same strict rules that one is expected to conform to over the long haul, but evangelical churches make it much easier to get in to the door, experience and buy into first, before you're expected to get in line with your thoughts and behavior.

An orthodox pope with even more emphasis on the 'rules' is the last thing the church needs to become attractive to today's youth and to help build the church for future generations.

Maybe there is still hope then that the North won't be lost.

The South is a lost cause for sure though.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: jjsole
The catholics have been steadily losing youth and new converts to the evangelical movement everywhere because of their perceived strict religiousness and but lack of perceived spirituality. Youth want personal experience, and not church dogma.

Both essentially have the same strict rules that one is expected to conform to over the long haul, but evangelical churches make it much easier to get in to the door, experience and buy into first, before you're expected to get in line with your thoughts and behavior.

An orthodox pope with even more emphasis on the 'rules' is the last thing the church needs to become attractive to today's youth and to help build the church for future generations.
It isn't the job of the Church to appeal to people. Religion is not some popularity contest.
 

Mathlete

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: jjsole
The catholics have been steadily losing youth and new converts to the evangelical movement everywhere because of their perceived strict religiousness and but lack of perceived spirituality. Youth want personal experience, and not church dogma.

Both essentially have the same strict rules that one is expected to conform to over the long haul, but evangelical churches make it much easier to get in to the door, experience and buy into first, before you're expected to get in line with your thoughts and behavior.

An orthodox pope with even more emphasis on the 'rules' is the last thing the church needs to become attractive to today's youth and to help build the church for future generations.
It isn't the job of the Church to appeal to people. Religion is not some popularity contest.

seconded, thirded, fourthed and fifthed

 
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