BenQ 1655 with lightscribe OEM $39.99 + $4.99 s/h

[macaddict]

The 1655 is said to have better jitter values than the 1650. For the same price on the Egg, I'd go with the 1655 personally.

 

[russr]

Originally posted by: macaddict
The 1655 is said to have better jitter values than the 1650. For the same price on the Egg, I'd go with the 1655 personally.

What is jitter?

The 1655 is black and I have a beige case....that won't look so good.

 

[scottamc]

i ordered one.

 

[nomadh]

Originally posted by: russr

Originally posted by: macaddict
The 1655 is said to have better jitter values than the 1650. For the same price on the Egg, I'd go with the 1655 personally.

What is jitter?

The 1655 is black and I have a beige case....that won't look so good.

Better an ugly pc than an ugly burn to disk. I have 30 disks from my "pretty matching" burners that only play parts of the disks or only on this or that player or only work if you don't FF. Now i need to decide on each and every file or de/reencoded dvd if its worth redoing. The first few were fun now I just want it to work all the time everytime.

 

[russr]

Your DVDs that are partially screwed up were created with the Benq 1650 drive? Are you saying that the Benq 1650 screws up DVDs while the Benq 1655 doesn't?

Originally posted by: nomadh

Originally posted by: russr

Originally posted by: macaddict
The 1655 is said to have better jitter values than the 1650. For the same price on the Egg, I'd go with the 1655 personally.

What is jitter?

The 1655 is black and I have a beige case....that won't look so good.

Better an ugly pc than an ugly burn to disk. I have 30 disks from my "pretty matching" burners that only play parts of the disks or only on this or that player or only work if you don't FF. Now i need to decide on each and every file or de/reencoded dvd if its worth redoing. The first few were fun now I just want it to work all the time everytime.

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: LurkingInNC

Originally posted by: russr
Is LightScribe a technology that's worth having? You need special discs right to print a label on? I'm just wondering if it is a fading technology that isn't really going to catch on.

Someone on here told me that you do need special disks ($) for LightScribe. What about printers with a tray for CD/ DVD printing? Do you need special disks for those as well?

I picked this drive (OEM) up from the egg a week or so ago. It burns my cheap DVD's like a charm, not a coaster in the bunch, and you don't need a special tray. For the lightscribe you buy the special DVD's, and flip it upside-down in the tray to burn the label.

Great burner if you ask me.

 

[altonb1]

Looks liek they are also offering free 3-day shipping again. The retail version charges $6.67 for 3-day, though.

 

[nomadh]

I personally don't know anything about the 1650 I assume its also good. Probably would have bought it if available then. I just know my 1655 is outstanding. Also testing a toshiba right now that is looking good so far. The burners I had problems with were a btc and a liteon. The liteon may actually be worse than the btc. I also had a nec 2500 that completly sucked until i crossflashed it to a 2510 and used a liggy-dee firmware. It went from a D to a B+ burner. So remember to keep an eye out for firmware too.

Originally posted by: russr
Your DVDs that are partially screwed up were created with the Benq 1650 drive? Are you saying that the Benq 1650 screws up DVDs while the Benq 1655 doesn't?

Originally posted by: nomadh

 

[broon]

In for one.

 

[karek]

I have Benq 1655 from Tiger Direct and under Nero 7, Choose Recorder is showing is not support Cue Sheet lake this one from CDRinfo website, http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=16050&PageId=0
If any have retail Benq 1655 and Nero 7 conform this.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: LurkingInNC

Originally posted by: russr
Is LightScribe a technology that's worth having? You need special discs right to print a label on? I'm just wondering if it is a fading technology that isn't really going to catch on.

Someone on here told me that you do need special disks ($) for LightScribe. What about printers with a tray for CD/ DVD printing? Do you need special disks for those as well?

It's the same idea for both technologies: you only need special disks if you plan on using that function, but not if you just want to slap data on a disc and stuff it in a case. For lightscribe, you need discs that have the special LS coating on the top, for printing you need discs that have an inkjet-printable layer on top. Both types should be labeled as such when you look for them.

 

[Ghettocowboy]

Jitter = Noise

I am also an active member of CDFREAKS forum, and what I have read from users and compared between the 2 drives, the 1655 seems to have lower jitter and slightly better than the 1650 in term of burn quality. And you are the type of guys that just burn DVD and watch it afterwards without testing the quality burn or scan to see the quality burn, then it doesn't matter that drive you get, just that you have to feed better media for crappy drive

 

[russr]

So the 1650 is a crappy drive compared to the 1655 or is it only slightly worse so that I'd not even notice?

 

[Wedge1]

Originally posted by: russr
So the 1650 is a crappy drive compared to the 1655 or is it only slightly worse so that I'd not even notice?

You wouldn't notice. He is saying it is only noticable in scans (scanning the burned disc to get a precise read of accuracy of the burn), i.e., real-world use would not reveal the shortcomings of one over the other.

 

[russr]

Is there anyway to attach a beige faceplate to the 1655?

 

[nomadh]

If I get quality scans in the 90's it usually plays everywhere. Even when a couple of small error spikes drive the quality down to the 50's (junk media) it seems most players can read it. My old burners would sometimes run usually in the 30-50% quality range with large swaths of errors sometimes dozens or even a hundred times specs. I found that the benq was also better at reading those old disks. Lowering the error count and raising the quality score quite a bit. I would like to see a head to head with the benq and the new lg, lite-on, pioneer etc. I just tested a new samsung and it was good with top media but once again it completly failed on cheaper media. Even had a problem with fuji media. (Expensive name brand but it turns out to be pure crap prodisc media) I have very very cheap media ($5/50 pk staples), aml002 made in china that burn nearly as good as verbatim. So far MIJ sony + and - and 16x fuji + and - all seem to be crap. I have old 4x media I can burn at 16x that scan better than modern fuji or sony.
Glad I can pass all this info on and hopefully save someone the 1 month and 6-8 different brand media I wasted trying to get a decent burn.

 

[russr]

Can anyone post any updated info about retails vs. oem? I know the retail looks different, has software and cables and screws, but otherwise are they the same. There's been talk about the dw1655 retail performing better, but is this true or just because of firwmware differences?

 

[nomadh]

Will be hard to to say until at least a few people run both drives side by side. Not likely soon. I'd bet both are excellent A++ drives but maybe go for the 1655 in case lightscribe media ever becomes viable if within a few $. Its $39 now mine was $54 2 mo ago so feel good about it.

 

[stockjock]

OK..Chief Value has this drive for $36.99 shipped thru June 10th.

 

[Old Hippie]

OK..Chief Value has this drive for $36.99 shipped thru June 10th.

I couldn't stand it any longer. Had to go for it and try LightScribe!
Thanks Again for the "Heads Up".

 

[unbot]

great deal for free shipping and no tax! i bit.

thanks stockjock!