BenQ XL2420T vs XL2420TE

[alonbl]

Where I live the only screen that is 120hz is BenQ XL2420T. The XL2420TE didn't arrive yet and maybe wont come at all. The differences are: the New ZeroFlicker technology, 144hz and 1ms GTG The question is are they really significant? is it worth the wait and the extra money?

 

[lehtv]

Probably not worth it. XL2420T is a very nice 120hz panel, and it supports zero motion blur which, if enabled on a 144hz panel, will only work in 120hz mode anyway.

As for the new ZeroFlicker technology of XL2420TE, it's hard to say if it makes a difference or not, will have to wait and see.

 

[NoStateofMind]

From what I understand with the older (non TE) version people were having issues with brightness being too high during lightboost even when brightness is set to zero. Apparently the TE version allows you to dim it down and looks better. YMMV on this and I suggest double checking my statement.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Where I live the only screen that is 120hz is BenQ XL2420T. The XL2420TE didn't arrive yet and maybe wont come at all. The differences are: the New ZeroFlicker technology, 144hz and 1ms GTG The question is are they really significant? is it worth the wait and the extra money?

If you're going to be using the Lightboost trick on the XL2420T (will explain more later), then I'd say no its definitely not worth waiting, especially if you're going to have to pay more for the newer model.

Probably not worth it. XL2420T is a very nice 120hz panel, and it supports zero motion blur which, if enabled on a 144hz panel, will only work in 120hz mode anyway.

As for the new ZeroFlicker technology of XL2420TE, it's hard to say if it makes a difference or not, will have to wait and see.

I can't speak for how well ZeroFlicker works as I don't have the newer model, but while there is flicker according to the smartphone camera trick (http://youtu.be/qa_23a4yRfw) @ 60Hz and even 120Hz (gets better from 60 to 120) there is no flicker at all once the Lightboost is enabled. So maybe ZeroFlicker has some utility for someone wanting to run without Lightboost, but with it on I'd say it appears to be a redundant technology.

From what I understand with the older (non TE) version people were having issues with brightness being too high during lightboost even when brightness is set to zero. Apparently the TE version allows you to dim it down and looks better. YMMV on this and I suggest double checking my statement.

1. there's no way the XL2420T is too bright with Lightboost on

2. with ToastyX's Strobelight tool, that brightness can easily be dropped down, not that I ever do because its already relatively dim @ 100%

 

[alonbl]

Thanks bunnyfubbles, so since u got the XL2420T what can you tell me about it? are you satisfied with it?

 

[NoStateofMind]

1. there's no way the XL2420T is too bright with Lightboost on

2. with ToastyX's Strobelight tool, that brightness can easily be dropped down, not that I ever do because its already relatively dim @ 100%

No?

Check the USA website:
http://shop.benq.us/xl2420te.html

It's crazy. You can't tell before buying. For a guarantee of 144Hz/ZeroFlicker, you should order the XL2420TE from Amazon or another source that is advertising it as the XL2420TE

A very interesting characteristic of the XL2420TE is the ability to dim over a much wider range, interesting for those people who think Brightness=0% of current 120Hz monitors are still way too bright for them.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040212107&postcount=1721

 

[Mastercommander]

I have a new XL2420TE and am very pleased with it, though I have no XL2420T to compare it to.

The new model does dim very well. People had compared the XL2420T to the brightness of the sun. Also, I do leave Lightboost off for regular desktop use and trust to the new ZeroFlicker's supposed ability to keep my eyes from fatigue

 

[toyota]

the XL2420TE is not even listed on the BenQ site but they have an XL2420TX listed.

 

[bystander36]

The features that are being mentioned here are not features the TX model has. The TX model is the same as the T model, but with a built in emitter.

I don't know why the TE model wouldn't be on their site, it is being shown at online stores: http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2420TE-.../dp/B00D7IG556
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014350

Based on the description of this flickerfree technology, it may be something good for those who get eye strain easily. I've seen a number of people complain about having eye strain with these 120hz monitors, and non 120hz monitors too.

 

[toyota]

The features that are being mentioned here are not features the TX model has. The TX model is the same as the T model, but with a built in emitter.

I don't know why the TE model wouldn't be on their site, it is being shown at online stores: http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2420TE-.../dp/B00D7IG556

its on their shop page but not on their products page for the main site.

and on their main site they list even the XL2420T as flicker free but I guess thats different than zero flicker. lol

 

[Aotengs]

Just a word of caution about using light boost, I have a 2411t and found that using light boost for extended periods of time would sometimes cause the monitor to show a screen full of horizontal lines for a few seconds and then revert back. There's no warning messages about display drivers erroring so I don't believe it's a gfx card issue.

The utility messing around with the strobe light ability of the monitors may have some extended damaging effect to the monitor. The utility has only been out for a few months so Who knows if it doesn't cause long term damage. Also keep in mind it automatically voids your warranty too

Now I just use my monitor on 144hz without it. It's probably just not worth it

 

[bystander36]

its on their shop page but not on their products page for the main site.

and on their main site they list even the XL2420T as flicker free but I guess thats different than zero flicker. lol

As we all know, LCD's don't really flicker (they are solid state), though the back lighting can kind of flicker due to the type of light used. I'm assuming the tech is a low flicker back light solution.

The TE most definitely isn't a relabel of the TX model, as it doesn't include the emitter, which the TX does.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

No?



http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040212107&postcount=1721

yeah, anyone who thinks the XL2420T is too bright with Lightboost on must live in perpetual cave-level darkness and would be instantly blinded if they ever went outside or had a window to let daylight in to their basement.

The original XL2410T was notorious for being excessively bright from factory settings, but the 2420 is definitely reserved in that regard and certainly so once Lightboost is on.

Although I will say I did order mine as soon as it became available, so maybe they've changed things with newer batches? I'd still be skeptical tho

 

[Jodiuh]

Probably not worth it. XL2420T is a very nice 120hz panel, and it supports zero motion blur which, if enabled on a 144hz panel, will only work in 120hz mode anyway.

As for the new ZeroFlicker technology of XL2420TE, it's hard to say if it makes a difference or not, will have to wait and see.

I had the XL2420TX last year and returned it within an hour due to the extreme eye fatigue and terribad headaches it caused.

Last night I happily BF4'd for hours and hours on the TE. My only major complaint is that the top 1/2 is dimmer than the bottom 1/2 and is very distracting when browsing.

Also, if I enable LB, will the backlight suddenly start using PWM control? I'm afraid to try cause I don't wanna touch the sun and then never again be able to.

 

[bystander36]

I had the XL2420TX last year and returned it within an hour due to the extreme eye fatigue and terribad headaches it caused.

Last night I happily BF4'd for hours and hours on the TE. My only major complaint is that the top 1/2 is dimmer than the bottom 1/2 and is very distracting when browsing.

Also, if I enable LB, will the backlight suddenly start using PWM control? I'm afraid to try cause I don't wanna touch the sun and then never again be able to.

Have you tried adjusting the angle of the monitor? TN displays have color shift issues when not viewed from the right angle, which is straight ahead...the wrong tilt can effect it.

 

[Spidre]

I don't know what people are talking about the 2420T being too bright with lightboost on... Mine is at 100% and still noticeably darker then it was with lightboost off.

With that being said, I love the monitor, and you can't go wrong with either.

 

[Xed]

My only major complaint is that the top 1/2 is dimmer than the bottom 1/2 and is very distracting when browsing.

I don't have this behavior with mine so you might have a defect if it's not an angle issue.

 

[Jodiuh]

Have you tried adjusting the angle of the monitor? TN displays have color shift issues when not viewed from the right angle, which is straight ahead...the wrong tilt can effect it.

Yeah, the only thing that helps is sitting super high up in my chair and lowering the monitor to the bottom. But then that puts my neck @ the top of the monitor and just doesn't work, lol.

I am trying to "burn in" the thing @ max brightness w/ an all white screen. It's not so bad when it's bright, but I like things dark. @ 0% brightness, it's very noticeable.

I don't have this behavior with mine so you might have a defect if it's not an angle issue.

Grrr...I hate returning stuff.