BeOS was and still is the best IMO, watch this.

[robisc]

<< There were hardly any apps I could use, and well, I actually didn't see any reason to use it any longer. At that time I had BeOS PE installed alongside Win98 and SuSe Linux. >>



That I believe is the one thing users missed out on, when in fact there are many apps for Be, maybe not at Best Buy in the software section in a box but they are out there. I mean pretty much everything that you may need is or was there. Linux apps are sometimes few and far between too, that doesn't keep it from being a great OS. Remeber BeOS was designed from the ground up as a media OS, it wasn't intended to compete with Windows as far as the desktop OS market goes but for what it does Be blows Windows away, Microsoft should take notes. Check the links at the bottom of my post and you will probably be surprised at the apps that are out there and most are free and or open source. If you are looking for anything else LMK and I may know where to find it.




<< OK, I'm at home now and I just installed it. GeForce2 GTS wasn't supported out of the box, but I found a driver. It looks pretty nice in color. Not as good as 2000/XP or a nicely configured KDE, but it still looks decent. The browser that comes with it sucks though. I'm downloading some Mozilla port right now, I'll see how that goes. I'm going to screw around with a bit and see how it goes, but since there isn't much I can do with it, it won't go past that. Neat to try it out though. >>




Can't do much with it? What do you want it to do, see above post and go to that link I posted. As far as a browser Mozilla is good in Be, also try Opera, it is great in Be too.

BeBits

 

[Halogen]

i watched that demo and the one thing that blew me away was the dual processor capability

if that system would work with Half-Life and some other games i would get me a dual Athlon MP 1700+ and get down to some hard core gaming

 

[Charles]

From osnews.com: Were These Screenshots Taken From BeOS 6?

http://susceptor.subnett.no/nils/beos/

 

[Mucman]

I too was hoping BeOS would make it big. It had such a friendy interface that invited me to play with it. The haiku error messages were great and I loved some of the program descriptions. The description for the "Jumpered ISA devices" app says "Write a program to install jumpered ISA devices he said...."

Plus the puns that go with the OS are great! I was bugging a friend about it at work and he said "Oh, BE quiet!"

btw, I am getting the movie at 200KB/s

 

[Charles]

Mucman: Play me online? Well, you know that I'll beat you, if I ever meet you I'll control-alt-delete you...!

 

[robisc]

Charles, there's a lot of questions in the Be community as to whether those shots are real or just Photoshop mock ups, IMO they look like the latter. Regardless I hope they are real, which would at least mean there is a possibility of some new stuff coming out for BeOs since there has been some work having been done on it.

 

[Charles]

<< IMO they look like the latter. Regardless I hope they are real, which would at least mean there is a possibility of some new stuff coming out for BeOs since there has been some work having been done on it. >>

I think so too. I don't think that they will keep it as an internal release if it really worked that well, right? I used to have BeOS 5 on my workstation, but I uninstalled it after a while cause I hardly use it. IMO, Mac OS X is still better...

 

[Mucman]

LOL at Charles!

Watcha gonna do? Wannabe hackers, code crackers, slackers
Haning out with all the chat room yackers
9 to 5, chillin out at Hewlett Packard

 

[nortexoid]

just finished watching that demo video...pretty impressive running on a dual PII 266mhz w/ 64mb ram and a slow ass hdd...

it seems that it's almost impossible now for a new OS to compete in today's market, especially when u have more than one other OS w/ a strong footing already (i.e. mac os, windows, linux)....

i mean, i would never use windows if i didn't game or do other things that are exclusive to windows, but that's the problem...too many apps exclusive to windows...i can't even uplaod songs to my rio500 without windows (there's some sorry command line apps for linux - let's not count those)

 

[Sunner]

Just gotta say I erally liked BeOS, tried it for a while at work, and it was GREAT.

Damn fast, nice clean UI, good CLI, good performance, what else could you ask for?
Hardware compability and a good software library, but those arent the responsibility of the OS maker, so I cant really blame Be for that.
Oh well, I'll just keep hoping for that perfect OS to appear one day.

 

[robisc]

nortexoid, I agree that is very hard for a new OS to make in the market against Microsoft with their brand recognition and notoriety, you are also right on about having to use Windows, I mean just as I posted earlier saying that pretty much everything you "need" is out there for BeOs which is true, it's just that most of the great really "want" apps (i.e. Quicken or Money) are exclusive to Windows and that is why you can't really do away with it and use another OS exclusively.

There is some new potentially good news coming out of the Be community about those screenshots released about them being real according to a former unnamed Be engineer, also some news about a new updated version 5.0 Pro version being released by a 3rd party company. Don't know if any of this is true or not but there's always hope and anyway it makes for some interesting reading, check it out:

OSnews

BeGroovy forums

 

[robisc]

Maybe not so good news if we are looking for Palm to release BeOS R6, according to this from David Nagel's (CEO of the Palm subsidiary, PalmSource, which controls Be's IP) full email reply. This was a reply from the email sent form Helmar from BeUnited. Doesn't look good even though this now leads to more interest in OBOS.
Read on, this was taken form OSnews.

"Helmar,
We have fully discussed the possibility of licensing the BeOS operating system. At this time we have made a firm decision NOT to license any part of this technology other than that which we incorporate into the Palm OS. There are a variety of reasons for this, both technical and business. We are a small (and new) company that simply must focus all its energy on the principal task of providing great operating systems and other platform components to the handheld computing and communication device market.

While I understand that this decision may disappoint you, please understand that we make it having thoroughly discussed both the pro's and con's of such a decision. It is a final decision.

Sincerely,

David Nagel
President and CEO
PalmSource, Inc."

 

[nortexoid]

funny, i just read that on beunited....a shame, perhaps...

i remember i installed beos personal a long time ago but didn't get much of a chance to dink around on it...maybe i will now since that demo intrigued me...

 

[vash]

I, for one, loved the GUI in this OS. This was my hope of what a "mac-looking-like" OS would be for x86. Add the fact that the OS is really unix, has plenty of cli tools available AND its multithreaded! Sure, Linux does a lot of this good stuff, but much of Linux is cumbersome to deal with. BeOS was solid, stable and ran quite well on any hardware I threw at it.

Its quite unfortunate that it doesn't run on my latest box. I would really love to get my hands on an older dual BX box to run this OS on. With network connectivity and the ability to use Mozilla, its plenty fine for surfing the net, playing MP3s and watching some downloaded videos once in a while.

Too bad BeOS isn't supported anymore and Palm didn't license it out, or give a good portion of it away. The OS really was founded on newer grounds than Linux (look how long true SMP support was built into the kernel vs BeOS being SMP aware on day 1). Linux does the job, but BeOS made me happier in doing the job.

vash

 

[robisc]

<< Its quite unfortunate that it doesn't run on my latest box. I would really love to get my hands on an older dual BX box to run this OS on. >>



vash, why would Be not run on your box, what is it?

 

[nortexoid]

robisc, u're just itching to keep this thread alive...aren't u?

jokes.

 

[Electrode]

I've never used BeOS before, but that demo was enough to convince me to give it a try. I have already set up VMware for it, and I will download it tomorrow.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

whoa... Whoa... WHOA... Coming from a Microsoft background, all I had to see was that he right clicked something and the menus came up instantly... I never would have thought that possible in an OS

 

[robisc]

<< robisc, u're just itching to keep this thread alive...aren't u? >>



nortexoid, a little Be talk never hurt anyone, and as far as I'm concerned this has been the most interesting OS talk in these forums in some time, just tired of talking Linux and XP. Also trying to get the info out there for those that maybe never knew about this great OS.

 

[nortexoid]

no need to justify yourself robby...i was what they call, kidding...

i found the thread interesting myself - the demo part mostly...i'm wondering just how different the core of BeOS is compared to, say, linux or win...i'm sure that's hard to answer.

 

[Chatterjee]

we should stop talking about something which we can't really hope goes anywhere and move our affection/interest into OpenBeOS

-S

 

[vash]

<< vash, why would Be not run on your box, what is it? >>

I have the full version of BeOS 5 Pro and everytime I try to install on either of my Athlon XP boxes, the system will just reboot (not even during install, sometime during the cd bootloader). On my older Athlon, it was just fine.

vash

 

[neonfiremanqtip]

vash,

There is a fix out to get athlonXPs working in Be.

Read through this thread.. If you can't find a working solution there, just browse through the begroovy forums.


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