Bergdahl to be charged with desertion

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Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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So glad this guy got off without any prison sentence. Anybody who deserts the mass-murdering US military deserves a medal, not a prison sentence.


One day this guy will be looked up to by people all over the world for the stand he took against US state-sponsored terrorism.

/lawnchairpopcornremote on
 

FIVR

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Some 'muricans can't handle the truth about their terrorist military.



Oh well, it's all for the best. Now that retard prez is here US military getting bent over in every country they enter. Taliban kicking their asses. Assad kicking their asses. Farmers in Niger kicking their asses. Who can US military beat down on and rape without getting their ass kicked? Venezuela?
 

colonel

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only thing I wanna say is the Commander in Chief called it a "disgrace" when he dodged the draft years ago.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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It's super easy to condemn Vietnam era draft dodgers when being subject to it never was a part of your life. I condemn the hypocrisy exhibited today, not the actions taken at the time to avoid being part of an utterly immoral war.

Those of us who lived through it, one way or another, have largely come to terms with each other about it.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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It's super easy to condemn Vietnam era draft dodgers when being subject to it never was a part of your life. I condemn the hypocrisy exhibited today, not the actions taken at the time to avoid being part of an utterly immoral war.

Those of us who lived through it, one way or another, have largely come to terms with each other about it.


I agree. After watching the Ken Burns documentary I don’t know how anyone could blame someone for dodging the draft. Now if they dodged the draft yet advocated for the war that’s a different story.
 

Commodus

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I agree. After watching the Ken Burns documentary I don’t know how anyone could blame someone for dodging the draft. Now if they dodged the draft yet advocated for the war that’s a different story.

Or, say, claim that a selfless POW wasn't a hero because he was captured.
 

bshole

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In my opinion, this sentencing is pure BS. I don't think it is right with respect to the charges that he plead guilty to. I know a lot was made out of his time in captivity with the Taliban, but that was pretty much an outcome of his own doing. That shouldn't even come into play. I heard that he is going to appeal his dishonorable discharge. I hope the hell they refuse that at least.

Then we have the Trump statements. I don't see how that could impact anything without a jury trial.

I see that you have a finely tuned moral compass that demands justice for immoral behavior. What punishment should Fox News suffer for publishing demonstrable lies (read Jasks posts) as factual news regarding this case? From my perspective, what Fox News did was far worse and they have paid no price for it. Their viewers are completely unaware of the true facts regarding the case. I don't think a country could do much worse than have its news organizations materially and intentionally misrepresent physical reality without consequence. So...... how should Fox News be punished?
 

Thebobo

Lifer
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It's super easy to condemn Vietnam era draft dodgers when being subject to it never was a part of your life. I condemn the hypocrisy exhibited today, not the actions taken at the time to avoid being part of an utterly immoral war.

Those of us who lived through it, one way or another, have largely come to terms with each other about it.

No there is a difference here. Trump didn't dodge the draft because of moral objections. He did it because he was a pussy.
 

FIVR

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I agree. After watching the Ken Burns documentary I don’t know how anyone could blame someone for dodging the draft. Now if they dodged the draft yet advocated for the war that’s a different story.

For like two weeks that Ken Burns Vietnam documentary was free on PBS. I watched the whole thing 3 times over. I think it was his best work yet, even better than his WWII and Civil War documentaries.

Wish it was still free, 10/10 would watch again.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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For like two weeks that Ken Burns Vietnam documentary was free on PBS. I watched the whole thing 3 times over. I think it was his best work yet, even better than his WWII and Civil War documentaries.

Wish it was still free, 10/10 would watch again.

Its being played this month. You have a DVR?
 

FIVR

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Its being played this month. You have a DVR?

Yeah I have a DVR. It's playing this week? Thanks for the tip, I'll record it!



My favorite part was when Nguyễn Cao Kỳ described what vietnam needed most: 5 Hitlers.

lol
 

Jhhnn

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No there is a difference here. Trump didn't dodge the draft because of moral objections. He did it because he was a pussy.

It doesn't really matter anymore to those of us who came of age at the time. Those of us who escaped the draft got lucky, one way or another. Those who didn't, not so much. Those who got shot up & fucked up, even less. Those who died, not at all.
 
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It requires you to register for something now. 2 weeks ago you could watch it without registering for anything.

At least it does on safari on this comp.

Sorry, it may well. I'm in Canada so they don't work for me at all as it's US only access.
 

Balt

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I agree. After watching the Ken Burns documentary I don’t know how anyone could blame someone for dodging the draft. Now if they dodged the draft yet advocated for the war that’s a different story.

That's the thing. There have been and continue to be so many hawkish and war-mongering people in our political system, think-tanks, and defense contractors that were 'lucky' enough to have a doctor who would exempt them from service for bone spurs, anal fissures, whatever.
 

J.Wilkins

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Sorry, it may well. I'm in Canada so they don't work for me at all as it's US only access.

Where in Canada? Hows the weather? Was going over this weekend but it seems it'll take another couple of weeks, damn shame since I've got season tickets to the Canucks.
 

kage69

Lifer
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That's the thing. There have been and continue to be so many hawkish and war-mongering people in our political system, think-tanks, and defense contractors that were 'lucky' enough to have a doctor who would exempt them from service for bone spurs, anal fissures, whatever.

Hawks that are chicken? There's got to be a term for that. Hmm.

Not always medical either. Cheney was pro war but maxed out his student deferments, so he knocked up the wife to claim expectant father. Dubya was somehow selected to be a pilot in order to defend Texan borders from the NVA.
 
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Where in Canada? Hows the weather? Was going over this weekend but it seems it'll take another couple of weeks, damn shame since I've got season tickets to the Canucks.

Here's where I live

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnaby

The weather has been cold, we just got our first snow this year and the Canucks play the Penguins tonight and I'll be watching the game on tv.

Central Burnaby in the foreground and Vancouver in the background.

 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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I see that you have a finely tuned moral compass that demands justice for immoral behavior. What punishment should Fox News suffer for publishing demonstrable lies (read Jasks posts) as factual news regarding this case? From my perspective, what Fox News did was far worse and they have paid no price for it. Their viewers are completely unaware of the true facts regarding the case. I don't think a country could do much worse than have its news organizations materially and intentionally misrepresent physical reality without consequence. So...... how should Fox News be punished?

Nice try to change the subject... I'm not taking the bait.

I see you have no idea of the importance of being able to depend on the guy next to you in a foxhole. You need to know he isn't going to be a deserter. He did it to himself when he deserted his post and fellow servicemen. He even admitted it by pleading guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy.
 

bshole

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Nice try to change the subject... I'm not taking the bait.

I see you have no idea of the importance of being able to depend on the guy next to you in a foxhole. You need to know he isn't going to be a deserter. He did it to himself when he deserted his post and fellow servicemen. He even admitted it by pleading guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy.

So no..... you don't give a shit about Fox's false reporting on this, you don't give a shit that the investigating officers recommended not prosecuting, you don't give a shit about the context, you don't give a shit that he was tortured for five years, you only care that Fox news told you to be outraged.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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So no..... you don't give a shit about Fox's false reporting on this, you don't give a shit that the investigating officers recommended not prosecuting, you don't give a shit about the context, you don't give a shit that he was tortured for five years, you only care that Fox news told you to be outraged.

Pcgeek is incapable of they kind of self reflection. Now get off his lawn while he yells at the clouds!
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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So no..... you don't give a shit about Fox's false reporting on this, you don't give a shit that the investigating officers recommended not prosecuting, you don't give a shit about the context, you don't give a shit that he was tortured for five years, you only care that Fox news told you to be outraged.

It has nothing to do with Fox News. Are you stupid?
 
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