Bernie Sanders announces 2020 campaign (and apparently raises a massive amount of $$$ within hours)

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Greenman

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I didn’t mean it wasnt truth. Just nobody is scared of Pence. He’d sadly be an upgrade. Not much of one though, but one none the less. But a banana would also be an upgrade so we really don’t have much to work with here.
I don't see why anyone is afraid of Trump.
 

fskimospy

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Thomas Frank documented the anti-Sanders bias in the Op Ed pages of the Washington Post in the critical months of the Democratic primary.

https://harpers.org/archive/2016/11/swat-team-2/

Bernie didn’t lose because the Washington Post op-ed section was against him, lol. Bernie already won the voters that read that section anyway. (More affluent white liberals) Bernie lost because he couldn’t extend his appeal in the primary beyond those people and into black and Hispanic voters who make up a huge section of the democratic primary electorate. There was no conspiracy against Bernie, he lost fair and square.

If he is the candidate this time I will gladly support him just like I would have last time. He’s a good guy! It’s time to move on from 2016 though, which is apparently something nobody other than Hillary Clinton supporters can do.
 

ivwshane

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Bernie didn’t lose because the Washington Post op-ed section was against him, lol. Bernie already won the voters that read that section anyway. (More affluent white liberals) Bernie lost because he couldn’t extend his appeal in the primary beyond those people and into black and Hispanic voters who make up a huge section of the democratic primary electorate. There was no conspiracy against Bernie, he lost fair and square.

If he is the candidate this time I will gladly support him just like I would have last time. He’s a good guy! It’s time to move on from 2016 though, which is apparently something nobody other than Hillary Clinton supporters can do.

I'm not aware of Clinton supporters unable to move on. Me personally, I just like throwing bernie supporters own mentally back in their faces. Unlike Bernie supporters I'm sure Clinton supporters will have no problem voting for him or whover else is running against trump. This upcoming election like the 2016 election will be a binary choice.
 

fskimospy

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I'm not aware of Clinton supporters unable to move on. Me personally, I just like throwing bernie supporters own mentally back in their faces. Unlike Bernie supporters I'm sure Clinton supporters will have no problem voting for him or whover else is running against trump. This upcoming election like the 2016 election will be a binary choice.

I said the opposite. Only they have moved on. Trump supporters are still ranting about Hillary and some Bernie Bros are still relitigating the 2016 primary.
 
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Greenman

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Then one can only conclude you have partisan blinders on, or don’t pay attention to political news. It’s so in your face I don’t know how you could miss it, but some of you do.
Or the Trump hysteria is spreading.
We have congress and the supreme court to ride heard on Trump. My hunch is they won't let him end women's suffrage or reinstate slavery. It doesn't look like there will be war with North Korea either, as Mutt and Jeff appear to have a budding bromance.
If the voters decide Trump is unworthy he won't be reelected, he's a temp.
The grass will still grow, then sun will still shine, the republic will endure.
 

fskimospy

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Or the Trump hysteria is spreading.
We have congress and the supreme court to ride heard on Trump. My hunch is they won't let him end women's suffrage or reinstate slavery. It doesn't look like there will be war with North Korea either, as Mutt and Jeff appear to have a budding bromance.
If the voters decide Trump is unworthy he won't be reelected, he's a temp.
The grass will still grow, then sun will still shine, the republic will endure.

The current president purged the FBI because they were investigating crimes committed by his associates.

If you’re not scared by that you should be.
 

Greenman

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The current president purged the FBI because they were investigating crimes committed by his associates.

If you’re not scared by that you should be.
Not even mildly concerned. The investigation doesn't end when an agent gets booted.
In the three or four cases I know about, they absolutely deserved to get canned.
 

Jhhnn

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Or the Trump hysteria is spreading.
We have congress and the supreme court to ride heard on Trump. My hunch is they won't let him end women's suffrage or reinstate slavery. It doesn't look like there will be war with North Korea either, as Mutt and Jeff appear to have a budding bromance.
If the voters decide Trump is unworthy he won't be reelected, he's a temp.
The grass will still grow, then sun will still shine, the republic will endure.

Sweet, sweet pablum...
 

Moonbeam

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Or the Trump hysteria is spreading.
We have congress and the supreme court to ride heard on Trump. My hunch is they won't let him end women's suffrage or reinstate slavery. It doesn't look like there will be war with North Korea either, as Mutt and Jeff appear to have a budding bromance.
If the voters decide Trump is unworthy he won't be reelected, he's a temp.
The grass will still grow, then sun will still shine, the republic will endure.
We had Nazi Germany and WW2 with 50 million plus or minus dead, but the grass still grows and the sun still shines.

To see no threat means you have no moral responsibility to do something about it. This is how the camel gets his nose under the tent.
 

fskimospy

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Not even mildly concerned. The investigation doesn't end when an agent gets booted.
In the three or four cases I know about, they absolutely deserved to get canned.

If you are not even mildly concerned about the president firing federal law enforcement for investigating his associates you are insane. Full stop.

You are basically excusing Nixon’s saturday night massacre.
 

KMFJD

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Under his proposal, 99.75 percent of Americans would not pay a penny more in estate taxes. For those who would pay more, the tax rate on estates valued from $3.5 million to $10 million would be 40 percent. There would be a 50 percent tax on estates worth $10 million to $50 million and a 55 percent levy on estates worth more than $50 million. A 10 percent surtax would be applied on estates worth more than $1 billion, a category that today includes fewer than 500 American families. The bill also would close estate tax loopholes that have allowed the wealthy to avoid an estimated $100 billion since 2000. On all estates, the first $3.5 million for individuals and $7 million for couples would be exempt from federal taxes.

excellent measure
 
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