Bernie Sanders Favorability Rating = 61%

[boomerang]

When I look at him now all I see is a strutting Mussolini.

Because you've chosen to let the media do your thinking for you. They tell you what they want you to know and they tell you how to feel about it. You choose to accept that relationship when you could cast it off.

The numbers of posters in this thread that think that Trump is a right wing politician is pretty amazing. The man funded his own campaign to an enormous degree. He is fighting against the political machine that D.C. has honed over many many decades. A machine made up of followers of both political parties. There isn't much sense in going on in this regard but I will wrap up that thought by saying that he is the anti-politician and that's what got him elected.

That the nation could continue as it was, borrowing to give people "free" shit in order to garner votes so that a few could have the ultimate in power and control isn't even remotely realistic. If you think it was a winning formula, you are wrong. It doesn't matter if you can or can't comprehend that. You have been left behind.

Choo, choo.

 

[fskimospy]

Because you've chosen to let the media do your thinking for you. They tell you what they want you to know and they tell you how to feel about it. You choose to accept that relationship when you could cast it off.

The numbers of posters in this thread that think that Trump is a right wing politician is pretty amazing. The man funded his own campaign to an enormous degree. He is fighting against the political machine that D.C. has honed over many many decades. A machine made up of followers of both political parties. There isn't much sense in going on in this regard but I will wrap up that thought by saying that he is the anti-politician and that's what got him elected.

That the nation could continue as it was, borrowing to give people "free" shit in order to garner votes so that a few could have the ultimate in power and control isn't even remotely realistic. If you think it was a winning formula, you are wrong. It doesn't matter if you can or can't comprehend that. You have been left behind.

Choo, choo.

If he isn't a right wing politician then why has every policy he's put forth so far massively cut taxes for the rich while reducing services to the poor?

The sheer ignorance that comes from this post is baffling and the fact that you're complaining about other people letting the media decide while mindlessly parroting a right wing media narrative is both funny and sad.

 

[Moonbeam]

You can lose your post if you edit wrong I guess

 

[bshole]

Because you've chosen to let the media do your thinking for you. They tell you what they want you to know and they tell you how to feel about it. You choose to accept that relationship when you could cast it off.

The numbers of posters in this thread that think that Trump is a right wing politician is pretty amazing. The man funded his own campaign to an enormous degree. He is fighting against the political machine that D.C. has honed over many many decades. A machine made up of followers of both political parties. There isn't much sense in going on in this regard but I will wrap up that thought by saying that he is the anti-politician and that's what got him elected.

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You may be correct that he is not a right wing politician. However, he is an egomaniac and pathological liar with no underlying moral code. More importantly, he appears to be suffering from early onset Alzheimer's. Watch videos of him from 30 years ago. He didn't speak at a grammar school level back then, he wasn't detached from reality back then either. Trump appears to be in worse shape now than Reagan was when he left office.

This is the most pathetic image of Trump I have seen. While attempting to negotiate a step, Trump grabs Theresa Mays hand for support. This establishes his diminished capacity and is a CLASSIC symptom of Alzheimer's. The man needs to be in a hospital, not in the White House.

 

[fskimospy]

You are probably correct in that he is not a right wing politician. However, he is an egomaniac and pathological liar with no underlying moral code. More importantly, he appears to be suffering from early onset Alzheimer's. Watch videos of him from 30 years ago. He didn't speak at a grammar school level back then, he wasn't detached from reality back then either. Trump appears to be in worse shape now than Reagan was when he left office.

This is the most pathetic image of Trump I have seen. While attempting to negotiate a step, Trump grabs Theresa Mays hand for support. This establishes his diminished capacity and is a CLASSIC symptom of Alzheimer's. The man needs to be in a hospital, not in the White House.

What actions has he taken since entering office that would make you think he's not a right wing politician?

 

[bshole]

What actions has he taken since entering office that would make you think he's not a right wing politician?

All his actions strike me as mental illness. We will find out if I am correct. I would be willing to bet money (up to $20) that within the next 4 years, he will be officially diagnosed with either Alzheimer's or dementia.

 

[jmagg]

What actions has he taken since entering office that would make you think he's not a right wing politician?

Quashing the TPP would be one, promise of import tax another.

 

[fskimospy]

Quashing the TPP would be one, promise of import tax another.

I would agree that opposing TPP is not conservative. Too bad too, as opposing TPP is a terrible idea.

As for the second, assuming you're talking about the border adjustment tax, he hasn't come out and supported it. I really hope he doesn't either as it's a spectacularly stupid idea.

 

[agent00f]

All his actions strike me as mental illness. We will find out if I am correct. I would be willing to bet money (up to $20) that within the next 4 years, he will be officially diagnosed with either Alzheimer's or dementia.

Arguably a positive given retarded monkeys or any random event are more likely to make correct decisions than conservatives.

I would agree that opposing TPP is not conservative. Too bad too, as opposing TPP is a terrible idea.

As for the second, assuming you're talking about the border adjustment tax, he hasn't come out and supported it. I really hope he doesn't either as it's a spectacularly stupid idea.

TPP is obama legacy so opposing it is expected of the GOP, unless anyone is accusing Trump of acting on principle.

 

[jmagg]

I would agree that opposing TPP is not conservative. Too bad too, as opposing TPP is a terrible idea.

Which is strange. Any real Democrat would want to close the gap between rich and poor rather than widen it with more lost jobs.

 

[bshole]

Which is strange. Any real Democrat would want to close the gap between rich and poor rather than widen it with more lost jobs.

There is a weird split on this one. I opposed TPP because it was an obvious gift to corporations and the elite at the expense of the poorest and most vulnerable Americans. Many Democrats supported it but I believe many more opposed it.

 

[fskimospy]

Which is strange. Any real Democrat would want to close the gap between rich and poor rather than widen it with more lost jobs.

I could have sworn I was a real democrat, but I guess I was wrong! Haha.

Even though TPP wasn't really too much of a free trade agreement I believe you are saying that leftists should oppose free trade because it costs jobs. I would argue that restricting trade in order to protect uncompetitive sectors of our economy is shortsighted and makes us all poorer in the long run. The answer is to distribute the gains of free trade more equitably, not to give them up entirely.

 

[Younigue]

Because you've chosen to let the media do your thinking for you. They tell you what they want you to know and they tell you how to feel about it. You choose to accept that relationship when you could cast it off.

The numbers of posters in this thread that think that Trump is a right wing politician is pretty amazing. The man funded his own campaign to an enormous degree. He is fighting against the political machine that D.C. has honed over many many decades. A machine made up of followers of both political parties. There isn't much sense in going on in this regard but I will wrap up that thought by saying that he is the anti-politician and that's what got him elected.

That the nation could continue as it was, borrowing to give people "free" shit in order to garner votes so that a few could have the ultimate in power and control isn't even remotely realistic. If you think it was a winning formula, you are wrong. It doesn't matter if you can or can't comprehend that. You have been left behind.

Choo, choo.

So where do you get your information? Does it come to you in the middle of the night by miraculous means... fever dreams maybe? You're not suggesting you have personal insight in to the white house and this Administration are you... is it Nunes? Even if that were somehow the case, they'd be doing your thinking for you.

I do not think he is right-wing. I think he is a feel good, pliable, dangerous thing. If he's fighting the political machine he's replaced it with fighting for the wealthy ya know, because they just can't catch a break. Being anti-politician may have gotten him voted in but it's also going to tear his supporters to shreds. He does not care about them nor does he possess the desire our ability to.

"Free shit" is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is compassion of a Nation, of a society. Of a way to lift all of its people. A society that feels taken care of by the money it pays in functions better not worse. These personalities that take it as a personal affront that all societies including the U.S. have people in need is baffling. It is a decent society that tends to the needs of the whole. It's not simply compassion, it's higher function, higher thinking and no matter what, necessary.

As far as leaving anyone behind... that leads to results that no one wants except anarchists and there are a few of those in this administrating. That should worry everyone. Also, leaving people behind is an ugliness you think you want for whatever spiteful reason but unless you are one of the 1% who have years of practice of ignoring their humanity you won't like what that looks or feels like... because you supported it and are not one of them. You'll be left behind as well.

So you can stomp on compassion and empathy but you won't be able to ignore that you aren't honestly being taken in to consideration with these policy changes. This Administration hates you just as much as they hate me, hate the poor but most of all hates anyone who is not them. The disdain they have for you is equal to the disdain you feel for anyone that doesn't agree with you.

 

[Moonbeam]

I could have sworn I was a real democrat, but I guess I was wrong! Haha.

Even though TPP wasn't really too much of a free trade agreement I believe you are saying that leftists should oppose free trade because it costs jobs. I would argue that restricting trade in order to protect uncompetitive sectors of our economy is shortsighted and makes us all poorer in the long run. The answer is to distribute the gains of free trade more equitably, not to give them up entirely.

Let us assume for a moment that you have the best understanding of the opinions expressed here about the TPP, not particularly about free trade, and free trade itself. In such a case, the opinion you express here becomes the most factual and differs in, I think, significant ways from the differing opinions of some others we know are on the left. The point I would draw attention to, then, is that ones ideological leanings, in this case, to the left, may actually take those of us without a very studied understanding of a subject, in a direction that is incorrect but certainly feels right and proper for a leftist to have. Such deeper understanding is hard, I think, to come by, requiring some serious education and focus.

I for one am of the opinion that that you have such understanding and feel a debt of gratitude being exposed to it. I really appreciate the points of view you pass on here. I say so in the hope that by this shout out, as it were, that some who might not yet do so, pay extra attention to what you have to say.

 

[Jaskalas]

There are two sides opposing free trade, but I think they both come down to wanting protectionism for American workers. For jobs and labor. To combat offshoring and stagnant wages. If we cannot compete, then why not curl back up in our shell to relive the virtue of labor decades past? In desperation, people will readily try anything, including the dismantling of the global economy.

I mean, it has a certain appeal. It speaks to the working class. If one has no other solutions.

In past months I found myself resolved to another answer. One that actually depends on keeping the global economy strong. You might say it is dynamically opposed to the destructive answer. I think with Universal Basic Income (UBI) one does not have to fear the future of jobs or wages. No matter how automated or undervalued labor becomes, we can still find a place for people in our economy. We assuage worker's fears by having the proper social safety net. Then, blowing up decades of global trade is suddenly much less appealing.

As it stands, people still think it's a choice between their income, or free trade. My plan flips the table and lets both survive together.

I suppose in this way, even Senator Sanders stands to my right.

 

[fskimospy]

Let us assume for a moment that you have the best understanding of the opinions expressed here about the TPP, not particularly about free trade, and free trade itself. In such a case, the opinion you express here becomes the most factual and differs in, I think, significant ways from the differing opinions of some others we know are on the left. The point I would draw attention to, then, is that ones ideological leanings, in this case, to the left, may actually take those of us without a very studied understanding of a subject, in a direction that is incorrect but certainly feels right and proper for a leftist to have. Such deeper understanding is hard, I think, to come by, requiring some serious education and focus.

I for one am of the opinion that that you have such understanding and feel a debt of gratitude being exposed to it. I really appreciate the points of view you pass on here. I say so in the hope that by this shout out, as it were, that some who might not yet do so, pay extra attention to what you have to say.

Thanks, that's very nice of you to say!

 

[brandonbull]

All his actions strike me as mental illness. We will find out if I am correct. I would be willing to bet money (up to $20) that within the next 4 years, he will be officially diagnosed with either Alzheimer's or dementia.

It's funny that Liberals would "diagnose" someone with a mental illness. It's like an obese child calling a normal sized adult a fatty.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It's funny that Liberals would "diagnose" someone with a mental illness. It's like an obese child calling a normal sized adult a fatty.

so what is your explanation as to drumpf's ever increasing erratic behavior? His perpetual lies, and disavowing any fault... can't be pure narcissism can it?

 

[brandonbull]

so what is your explanation as to drumpf's ever increasing erratic behavior? His perpetual lies, and disavowing any fault... can't be pure narcissism can it?

Maybe because Trump has to spend large amount of his time trying to fend off the calls of illegitimate. What are Dimocrats reasons for not accepting Trump as the President? Seems like it's a large group of people not in touch with reality. Is it group think anxiety? Bipolar? Depresssion? Borderline personality disorder?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Maybe because Trump has to spend large amount of his time trying to fend off the calls of illegitimate. What are Dimocrats reasons for not accepting Trump as the President? Seems like it's a large group of people not in touch with reality. Is it group think anxiety? Bipolar? Depresssion? Borderline personality disorder?

nah, it's the whole 'lose the popular vote by > 3,000,000 votes, make several unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud, all the while talking with putin's dick in his mouth' kinda thing.

 

[Younigue]

Maybe because Trump has to spend large amount of his time trying to fend off the calls of illegitimate. What are Dimocrats reasons for not accepting Trump as the President? Seems like it's a large group of people not in touch with reality. Is it group think anxiety? Bipolar? Depresssion? Borderline personality disorder?

You honestly believe there is no cause for concern? That he hasn't given cause for concern? What rock are you popping out from under long enough to post? That rock is too heavy sir, possibly squishing your brain? Hide under a pebble why'on'cha? It won't cause damage and you would still be able to see the world around you. Come on, help you help you, ya know? Psst... there's poison in that there kool-aid. I's afeared for ya! Spit it out!

 

[Moonbeam]

You honestly believe there is no cause for concern? That he hasn't given cause for concern? What rock are you popping out from under long enough to post? That rock is too heavy sir, possibly squishing your brain? Hide under a pebble why'on'cha? It won't cause damage and you would still be able to see the world around you. Come on, help you help you, ya know? Psst... there's poison in that there kool-aid. I's afeared for ya! Spit it out!

He has beliefs that can't be rationally supported that he's absolutely certain are correct and those beliefs are tied both to his ego and his beliefs in what the good is. He can't let go of what he believes because that would mean the triumph of evil. He doesn't see that the real problem is that while there is a good and it can't be destroyed by doubt, what he was taught to believe is the good was just somebodies opinion. You can see something like that in Iran, I think. They hate their government but if we attacked them they'd likely fight us down to the last man standing. So much of our problems go back to fucked up identifications, the bandages we put on our broken self respect.

 

[Jhhnn]

Maybe because Trump has to spend large amount of his time trying to fend off the calls of illegitimate. What are Dimocrats reasons for not accepting Trump as the President? Seems like it's a large group of people not in touch with reality. Is it group think anxiety? Bipolar? Depresssion? Borderline personality disorder?

Maybe Trump's problem is that he lies when he doesn't need to lie, that he does so compulsively. Maybe his problem is that he holds to a radical agenda that the majority didn't vote for. Maybe his problem is that his skills as a charlatan & the propaganda skills of his Russian enablers put him into a position for which he is utterly incompetent.

Maybe relentless right wing agitprop & lies over the preceding 25 years softened America's brains just enough to let it happen, too.

 

[Jhhnn]

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[Younigue]

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I love that you drove the point home with a period. I understand the finality of it but sadly some won't.