He has beliefs that can't be rationally supported that he's absolutely certain are correct and those beliefs are tied both to his ego and his beliefs in what the good is. He can't let go of what he believes because that would mean the triumph of evil. He doesn't see that the real problem is that while there is a good and it can't be destroyed by doubt, what he was taught to believe is the good was just somebodies opinion. You can see something like that in Iran, I think. They hate their government but if we attacked them they'd likely fight us down to the last man standing. So much of our problems go back to fucked up identifications, the bandages we put on our broken self respect.
I'm not looking for a debate. I'm trying to express my understanding. I know and see what you are saying. I see that you believe what what you believe is the good and that what he believes is the good, I ceased to believe that what I believed is the good because I could find no proof. I died to what I believed and not only did I not lose anything but illusions I gained what I had not seen a treasure that can't be taken, my original self, my being. It's like the difference between looking for the next big wave and riding it.Bad behavior and horrible thinking is backed only by excuses. When you do the work to be and behave as your best self you need no excuses. I know for me that if it's inevitable I am gong to be disappointed from time to time I'd rather do it with love, light and kindness in my heart. It makes the pill much easier to swallow.
I'm not looking for a debate. I'm trying to express my understanding. I know and see what you are saying. I see that you believe what what you believe is the good and that what he believes is the good, I ceased to believe that what I believed is the good because I could find no proof. I died to what I believed and not only did I not lose anything but illusions I gained what I had not seen a treasure that can't be taken, my original self, my being. It's like the difference between looking for the next big wave and riding it.
Let us assume for a moment that you have the best understanding of the opinions expressed here about the TPP, not particularly about free trade, and free trade itself. In such a case, the opinion you express here becomes the most factual and differs in, I think, significant ways from the differing opinions of some others we know are on the left. The point I would draw attention to, then, is that ones ideological leanings, in this case, to the left, may actually take those of us without a very studied understanding of a subject, in a direction that is incorrect but certainly feels right and proper for a leftist to have. Such deeper understanding is hard, I think, to come by, requiring some serious education and focus.
I for one am of the opinion that that you have such understanding and feel a debt of gratitude being exposed to it. I really appreciate the points of view you pass on here. I say so in the hope that by this shout out, as it were, that some who might not yet do so, pay extra attention to what you have to say.
I don't know what you are saying. I don't mean I don't understand the words or their meaning or what you are saying. I mean I don't know what you know because I don't know anything in the way that you know it. I don't know what brandonbull knows either. I do know that what he believes and what you believe have somethng in common, that you both believe that what you believe is good. Thus, because what you believe is different and the truth of what you believe and what he believes, because it is good, is important to you and so you will inevitably argue. I used to believe that what I believed was the good but when I set out to prove it I failed. So now I can't really debate that is true because I don't believe that I know what the truth is. And because I couls not prove what the good really is I believe the same is true of you two, that in fact you don't know anything either. I do, however, think it is good to know that so I brought it up. I do so because when I see people who believe in a truth for reasons, see the other as evil or bad, I simply can't share that opinion. I see two people who believe in the good, a different good they feel good about believing. Who doesn't believe in the good, I mean, other than me? So for me the good is not believing in a good because no good can be proven. Good is the absence of belief with the presence of being. We call the good the light and all of that sort of thing because the good isn't thinking or ideas or words or isms etc. The good is a sun that radiates and we seek it because of its warmth. We are all warmed by the same sun. It has no name.I have no clue if you are talking literal death but I have literally died. Inner peace includes the opposite to exist. Ignoring any aspect of that truth does not undo it. False inner peace can be just as devastating as any past horror that led to it.
I don't know what you are saying. I don't mean I don't understand the words or their meaning or what you are saying. I mean I don't know what you know because I don't know anything in the way that you know it. I don't know what brandonbull knows either. I do know that what he believes and what you believe have somethng in common, that you both believe that what you believe is good. Thus, because what you believe is different and the truth of what you believe and what he believes, because it is good, is important to you and so you will inevitably argue. I used to believe that what I believed was the good but when I set out to prove it I failed. So now I can't really debate that is true because I don't believe that I know what the truth is. And because I couls not prove what the good really is I believe the same is true of you two, that in fact you don't know anything either. I do, however, think it is good to know that so I brought it up. I do so because when I see people who believe in a truth for reasons, see the other as evil or bad, I simply can't share that opinion. I see two people who believe in the good, a different good they feel good about believing. Who doesn't believe in the good, I mean, other than me? So for me the good is not believing in a good because no good can be proven. Good is the absence of belief with the presence of being. We call the good the light and all of that sort of thing because the good isn't thinking or ideas or words or isms etc. The good is a sun that radiates and we seek it because of its warmth. We are all warmed by the same sun. It has no name.
Then you have nothing at all to say. That you use this forum is confounding. Adoy you don't believe in good butt you believe in bad? You truly can not have one with our the other. At best what's-his-face and I have opposing views. I would not oppress him with my beliefs though I would give him a word lashing and that only matters as much as it matters to him. Yes, I know what you're going to say... he would feel oppressed. But that wouldn't be accurate, he would truthfully be feeling mean and spiteful wishing to make everyone pay. That is not a "good" place you come from, ever. The extreme conservative view is willing to steal <--- steal or stomp on people's rights as humans, not just Americans rights. That is supposed to be fought against not accepted or celebrated. From my perspective and not exclusively Dem minded is that I want everyone to be secure including what's-his-face even if that means I know I'm right and he's wrong. My opinion is for the people, the conservative view is for a select group of people.
Again, your false sense of inner peace will overwhelm you. It only feels like peace but it's only cynical. Cynicism (note the ism) is incapable of lending itself to inner peace. Your walls will tumble and you will find yourself defeated yet again. But you said you're through with defeat (in essence). The fact that you imply your work is done is all the answer you need to the question of whether you are actually in a healthy place.
Moonbeam's history is that he found solace in god's love, which nobody can deny him; but that evidently doesn't apply to many no matter how evangelized or even testified, eg. the (christian) right.
Do we know what God he professes to love and embrace? He told me darkness is what he accepts, expects and embraces. Is he in to Satanism? I was going to ask if he was a Satanist but I wanted to get an "ism" in there to prove we all have 'em.
One man's wisdom is another man's bafflement I suppose. If he was led from the darkness has he ever explained why he sees only darkness? From what I can gather it's for protectionism. <--- can't help myself, gotta get the "ism" in where ever I can.Presumably some abrahamic god that led him from the darkness, given it's more or less what he preaches. Not that being good to others doesn't have broader value, but generally only when said others use like-for-like strategies instead of degenerate ones. Applied game theory is a pretty interesting field, basically quantification of what's traditionally categorized as wisdom.
Ones man wisdom is another man's bafflement I suppose. If he was led from the darkness has he ever explained why he sees only darkness? From what I can gather it's for protectionism. <--- can't help myself, gotta get the "ism" in where ever I can.
Melania's astrologist.. that is a Scary thought.You may be correct that he is not a right wing politician. However, he is an egomaniac and pathological liar with no underlying moral code. More importantly, he appears to be suffering from early onset Alzheimer's. Watch videos of him from 30 years ago. He didn't speak at a grammar school level back then, he wasn't detached from reality back then either. Trump appears to be in worse shape now than Reagan was when he left office.
Much like evangelicals he sees unsaved masses.
I suppose I will remain unsaved. I like being happy. I see happiness. I do not need to first feel jaded or cynical to comprehend it in its basest form. If one must practice to taint all things in order to enjoy them simply they are not simply enjoying anything.
No, he means to save people from darkness in the same way he recollects. That's why it's necessary/convenient for those systems (ie abrahamic religions) to categorize the unsaved as malcontent/ill or whatever.
Then you have nothing at all to say. That you use this forum is confounding. So you don't believe in good but you believe in bad? You truly can not have one with out the other.
At best what's-his-face and I have opposing views. I would not oppress him with my beliefs though I would be prone to give him a word lashing and that only matters as much as it matters to him. Yes, I know what you're going to say... he would feel oppressed. But that wouldn't be accurate, he would truthfully be feeling mean and spiteful wishing to make everyone pay. That is not a "good" place to come from, ever.
The extreme conservative view is willing to steal <--- steal or stomp on people's rights as humans, not just Americans rights. That is supposed to be fought against not accepted or celebrated. From my perspective and not exclusively Dem minded is that I want everyone to be secure including what's-his-face even if that means I know I'm right and he's wrong. My opinion is for the people. The conservative view is for a select group of people.
Again, your false sense of inner peace will overwhelm you. It only feels like peace but it's only cynical. Cynicism (note the ism) is incapable of lending itself to inner peace. Your walls will tumble and you will find yourself defeated yet again. But you said you're through with defeat (in essence). The fact that you imply your work is done is all the answer you need to the question of whether you are actually in a healthy place.
Maybe you got trolled and went on some extended rant to brag about how your opinion is for the people and "what's-his-face's" opinion is not. It also seems you would administer a "word lashing" until your opinion is the correct and only opinion. Or maybe "what's-his-face" totally missed the mark and is just another "what's-his-face" that deserves a strongly worded lashing until "what's-his-face's" stupidity vanishes. Kinda like some internet intervention or reprogramming?
Maybe you got trolled and went on some extended rant to brag about how your opinion is for the people and "what's-his-face's" opinion is not. It also seems you would administer a "word lashing" until your opinion is the correct and only opinion. Or maybe "what's-his-face" totally missed the mark and is just another "what's-his-face" that deserves a strongly worded lashing until "what's-his-face's" stupidity vanishes. Kinda like some internet intervention or reprogramming?
Younigue: Then you have nothing at all to say.
M: I have a lot to say because people have a hard time wrapping their minds around the fact they don't know anything, what that really means, because we all share common ideas like one and one is two. These are kind of hard wired into the brain perhaps we could say.
Y: That you use this forum is confounding. So you don't believe in good but you believe in bad? You truly can not have one with out the other.
M: We share a common experience and a common language. I know what duality is. I know what is to think, how thought is attached to memory and how words can trigger emotional reactions based on your past conditioning and that we suppress conscious memories of those connections because they caused to die psychically. Once we were the universe and the universe was us, we were at one, whole and complete. We were born where you are trying to go, to that good place. But thought is an endless circle, thinking can never be whole because the thinker is separate from the object of one's thinking, You wouldn't take all that so seriously if you knew you don't know anything. Thoughts my words here, talk of love etc. they mean nothing because they are of the past. Love can only exist in the now and for those who exist only in the now there is only love. These are just words. I don't believe in good or evil, they do not exist. They are words about ideas we invented and attached our philosophical lives to. There is only perfect awareness that is still and silent, the background or blackboard on which we create and imagine our world. Every world is different, a different dream, but the blackboards on which they are written are all the same. You can call the blackboard anything you like. It has a million names. God is one of them. I like to see it as the capacity I was given as a human awareness machine by billions of years of evolution that wrote into neurons an the image of what the universe is. I was created in the image of all that is, a perfect all there is to being.
Y: At best what's-his-face and I have opposing views. I would not oppress him with my beliefs though I would be prone to give him a word lashing and that only matters as much as it matters to him. Yes, I know what you're going to say... he would feel oppressed. But that wouldn't be accurate, he would truthfully be feeling mean and spiteful wishing to make everyone pay. That is not a "good" place to come from, ever.
M: My view is that if you aren't a nobody then you are a somebody and all somebodies are somebody because they believe in things that make them feel good. This is the result of having experienced pain. People have all kinds of different pain they have experienced and had to suppress just to survive. If he is as mean as you say then he probably suffered more or under less favorable healing conditions than you did. Just a guess
Y: The extreme conservative view is willing to steal <--- steal or stomp on people's rights as humans, not just Americans rights. That is supposed to be fought against not accepted or celebrated. From my perspective and not exclusively Dem minded is that I want everyone to be secure including what's-his-face even if that means I know I'm right and he's wrong. My opinion is for the people. The conservative view is for a select group of people.
M: And all that he would completely disagree with because he sees his opinions as morally superior to yours. Sound at all familiar?
Y: Again, your false sense of inner peace will overwhelm you. It only feels like peace but it's only cynical. Cynicism (note the ism) is incapable of lending itself to inner peace. Your walls will tumble and you will find yourself defeated yet again. But you said you're through with defeat (in essence). The fact that you imply your work is done is all the answer you need to the question of whether you are actually in a healthy place.
One small point to this. The work is done when the blackboard is wiped clean. The notion there is work to do arises out of not knowing this, or actually knowing something not this. The truth is when what you think of as you is not.
If you have ever been insulted for not knowing something, you may have some built up resistance to having that pointed out. The truth is hidden not only by its it's utterly improbable simplicity, but by being the last thing the ego wants to know. There is a reason it is said that the meek shall inherit the earth. Having nothing it's hard to fear loss. People seldom lock their garbage cans.
Hehehehehe, He seems to put you in a bad mood. I didn't tell you my story of how I came to understand I know nothing to put you on the defensive or to suggest I worship satin or debate religious doctrine or some hot new ism of the day. I told you because you have so much more attitude than I do, you are very certain of the correctness of your world view, just like he is, but differently than I am. You are at war for the good and so is he. All I am saying is that I won that war by fighting it and losing. All the self importance you derive from being on the side of the good is an illusion because the good you believe in is vaporware. You're fighting a vaporwar that I lost. I tried to erect this beautiful castle where my empathy could say to the world, this is the one true way to be. But it turns out that each of us is certain that ours is the only way which led me to the conclusion that if all of them can't be right it's likely that none of them are.Hey what's-your-face... Be you.
I'm happy. You're angry and feeling justified. Wrap yourself up in that warmth if that's the kind of warmth that does it for ya. If you would like to be converted by all means there are many who would love to convince you that anger is a crutch. Looks like we've burned a bridge so any words of wisdom I might possess would find deaf ears and blind eyes. The world need not follow me or adhere to any of my mutterings but I'm happy and that's not worth nothin', ya know?
If you were anticipating a different kind of word lashing, jokes on you. Power on mister, live to disagree unproductively it's definitely worth your time.
Hehehehehe, He seems to put you in a bad mood. I didn't tell you my story of how I came to understand I know nothing to put you on the defensive or to suggest I worship satin or debate religious doctrine or some hot new ism of the day. I told you because you have so much more attitude than I do, you are very certain of the correctness of your world view, just like he is, but differently than I am. You are at war for the good and so is he. All I am saying is that I won that war by fighting it and losing. All the self importance you derive from being on the side of the good is an illusion because the good you believe in is vaporware. You're fighting a vaporwar that I lost. I tried to erect this beautiful castle where my empathy could say to the world, this is the one true way to be. But it turns out that each of us is certain that ours is the only way which led me to the conclusion that if all of them can't be right it's likely that none of them are.
If you will look at what you believe and try to prove it's right you will discover you will discover it all rests on unexamined unconscious assumptions. Why does it matter. It matters because everybody who does not know this is exactly the same. They become angry when their beliefs are challenged, feel threatened by the other.
You and agent trying to put me in a manageable bag you can wrap your heads around remind me of the story of the three blind men and describing an elephant they have never seen. Your tools are the world views you bring to the table. I don't have those tools, they broke. You are like fish seeking to know about some mysterious notion called water. It's the same with God. God, the water of life, a pumpkin, all these are just words that describe a conscious state that can only be tasted by experiencing it. You can't take your ego there, I'm sorry, and the ego can't help but see that as a negative.
I see such longing for the good in you that I just wanted to reach out. Perhaps you will think of what I have said to you from time to time. The ego is a trickster, It is the ego that seeks for the sake of the ego. When you see that thought itself is ego how will you think your way out of that. You can't. But you can see the hopelessness of your situation. That is what I call standing in the highway that Grace drives on. She loves an easy target. Do you believe in magic? I don't. I know it's real.